MPACUK Defends the Niqab Again - Where Are the Muslims?
MPACUK was on the BBC recently, as well as a series of other media outlets, defending the niqab yet there is still a lack of Mosques who are doing so and also Muslim sisters (especially those that wear the niqab!) who should be at the forefront in defending issues important to our community.
As the tide of Islamophobia increases, we need more Muslims to stand up and make a different. We cannot sit back idly any more.
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GO! MPACUK GO! keep up the
Submitted by ShadowLite on Thu, 22/07/2010 - 10:35pm.GO! MPACUK GO!
keep up the massively important work! =)
BRILLIANT! WELL DONE MPACUK
Submitted by Lioness on Thu, 22/07/2010 - 11:01pm.Amazing interviews!
Catherine is brilliant!
May Allah bless her!
WELL DONE MPACUK
hargey anti mpacuk
Submitted by sajid on Thu, 22/07/2010 - 11:10pm.salam
i thought mpackuk was in bed with hargey?
what happened?
is the honeymoon period over
sajid
well have you miconceptions
Submitted by Storm Trooper on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 9:30am.well have you miconceptions changed?
the only way you could think
Submitted by Boco on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 3:47pm.the only way you could think that is by some public publication or by some public apperance of them two together on the same side....
EVIDENCE PLEASE!!
taj hargey self manifested
Submitted by again on Thu, 22/07/2010 - 11:13pm.taj hargey self manifested Dr. and full of utter rubbish per usual. nothing valuable to say and using his wifes hair dye..
catherine hesaltine- respect due to you sister.(salutes)
well done.
Respect to Sis Catherine
Submitted by Thursday on Thu, 22/07/2010 - 11:25pm.Respect to Sis Catherine Heseltine.
Respect to MPACUK.
MPACUK Defends the Niqab Again - Where Are the Muslims?
Submitted by Any Mouse Cow Herd on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 12:14am.Well from the top two videos shown the Muslims spoke with the good doctor explaining that neither the Burka or Niqab are sanctioned by the holy Quran. But rather they are tribal vestiges brought over from the wilds of Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. In other words they are cultural throwbacks which have no place in modern Islam.
Simples......
The issue at hand is nothing
Submitted by Boco on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 3:52pm.The issue at hand is nothing to do with whether it is Islam or not, or whether women who wear it, considers it to be compulsory or not. It would be if it was muslim country, but its not.
The issue here is liberty, if a person is able to dress in a way that doesnt harm anyone, then there is no problem. It is much more better to have small rules in which can be used as exceptions, e.g. at airports or police station. In a similar way that they use it with hooded youths in anti-social behaviour or criminal hotspots....but the police have never advocated banning of any youth wearing hoddies.....
cos that would be pretty facist.....
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Learn true Islam!
Submitted by Ibraheem on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 2:19am.Muslims are being targeted everywhere in the world. For the purpose of introducing true Islam to Non-Muslims and providing a great educational resource for Muslims, i have made a blog. Its called: http://quranicperspective.blogspot.com
Do visit it. You’ll find all ur questions about Islam, Quran, Muslims, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), women, war and many other topics answered on my blog. Plus lots of helpful links to other useful websites on the internet.
May Peace be upon all the people of the world! :) Peace within and peace without.
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I think it is very
Submitted by Great step forward on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 11:18am.I think it is very hypocritical when you try to blame him for being racist Jew hater while you don't hide the fact that you are an Islamophobe who hates Muslims openly.
It only shows that in your little mind, hating Jews is a crime but hating Muslims is a good thing. Very hypocritical!
Any fair human being understands that all humans are equal but people like you with inferior morality and intellect think that Jews are holy while gentiles are cattle (Goyim literally means cattle). Supremacist ideologies (including Jewish supremacism) are core values of Zionism, Fascism and Nazism.
You cannot preach morality and humanity if you have no morality and humanity yourself.
So you can shout, yell and scream but that doesn't matter because you are morally and intellectually inferior.
Another Jew hating Nazi
Submitted by Isla M. O'Phobe on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 11:37am.The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery by Tsarist Russians which Hitler used to justify the mass murder of 6 million innocent Jews.
You are morally not even inferior to me, you are morally bankrupt and your mind dwells in Satan's vile sewer of genocidal filth.
hypocritical zionist lover
Submitted by Great step forward on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 11:39am.I think it is very hypocritical when you try to blame him for being racist Jew hater while you don't hide the fact that you are an Islamophobe who hates Muslims openly.
look at me, i love all my fellow men be they muslim,jew or even christian allah tells me to love all men equally and it is something i try very hard to do. But it is very hard to get excited in which to love my fellow man when hypocritics like you defends Zionism by hating muslims.
You cannot preach morality and humanity if you have no morality and humanity yourself tell us all Islam-phobe when was the last time you expressed nothing but love for your fellowman. as i said i love all mankind even zionists who repent there ways. But people like you are unapproachable.
So you can shout, yell and scream but that doesn't matter because you are morally and intellectually inferior to me as i am a man a muslim man and together with my brothers we will teach the whole to love each other. Can you say the same for zionism which forces its women to shave their heads, forbids them from marrying outside of the cult of Judaism and forces them to drink the blood of children.
You are a subhuman Nazi devil
Submitted by Isla M. O'Phobe on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 12:33pm.No more need be said.
Look who is talking???
Submitted by Great step forward on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 4:23pm.Look who is talking???
This is not my post. My
Submitted by Great step forward on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 4:25pm.This is not my post. My original post is the one above.
Someone is using my alias to make me look bad.
The Protocols Is a Forgery
Submitted by omarinbox on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 10:07pm.As a Muslim I have to remind you the Protocols is a forgery, please remove it from your site.
Jazaakalla
@Ibraheem How are muslims
Submitted by Gotcha on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 7:26am.@Ibraheem
How are muslims targeted in western nations?
Its simply the western society is not comfortable with Islamic culture and values and cannot co-exist together, the good side is that the western are in their nations as muslims have their nations and societies also. So its up to muslims to seek alternative or adopt to the western kuffaar society.
its not as if muslims have
Submitted by Boco on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 3:54pm.its not as if muslims have just sort of turned up on western countries.....muslims have been living in Europe for nearly 60 years now....and there was no arguement about a contradiction of values then was there?
the only reason there is now, is cos right wingers want to us muslims as a scapegoat, as the nazis did in germany with the jews
The Ban is coming thats for
Submitted by MB on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 11:25am.The Ban is coming thats for sure.
Racist state of Israel
Submitted by Mary on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 11:44am.Everyone should read this article on the racist state of Israel.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/23/israel-turns-upon-it...
Its Funny that for you not be
Submitted by Gotcha on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 11:44am.Its Funny that for you not be an Islamophobe you don't need to criticize Muslims and Islams. Unfortunately that's the difference between Muslim culture and Values and Western Culture and values based on Judeo-Xtian. You wont be an Islamophobic when;
- You accept Burqa and the growth of women wearing burqa
- Accept all muslims cultural attitudes in Britain..this will be when islamophobia will cease...funny enough
Its absurd for any politician to go against the masses. more than 70% of British people accept and recognize Islamic culture is not in line with them.
The minister plays political correctness to please a minority who have a different culture and values with the majority..its only a matter of time because Islamophobia( criticiszing muslims on some of their cultures that are not incompatible and discusion on the failed pluralism ,while muslim themselves acknowledge their culture and values are different) is increasing and people in their areas needs to assert their values and culture. The people dictate the goverment through changing of the policies which are in favour of them you cannot go against them.BTW how will muslims be hurt or killed when they are told to;
-not to wear burqa or Hijab
- Accept our evil culture of accepting gays and lesbians in our communities
- Sharia cannot be accepted even an iota unless person goes to his/her matrimonial home
- Polygamy e.t.c is criminalized in our zone although its hypocritical
- Halal foods will be sold alongside other kufaar foods e.t.cin supermarkers
- Women will be treated(like in hospital) and serviced by men and women too...Madrasas must be moderated and have school curriculum and only on normal after school e.t.c
- Our society is liberal and evil according to their interpretation but has judeo-xtian values
- Dogs, Pork are normal in our evil society and drivers, normal muslim people cannot discriminate them e.t.c
- We will regulate the influx to our society to maintain cohesion
e.t.c and few others
Still Muslims have right to pray in mosques and anywhere and follow all their religous practises as long they dont contravene the normal culture
Have rights to own property and anything in UK
All bill of rights they have them and can do anything
Will that be making the UK and EU nazis by ensuring their culture and values are protected???
we already accept the british
Submitted by Boco on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 4:03pm.we already accept the british culture u muppet! otherwise we wouldnt live here...
you dont see us campaigning about homosexuality, or any of the other britons who dislike the whole idea...do you? so what warrants you in saying such a thing?
Halal foods are sold next to Haram foods....not in every supermarket in the country, but they do do it in some areas.
If you talk about liberty, then give women the choice to wear what they are wearing....there is no harm in it, not if it comes of their own choice, which it does. You dont ban youths from wearing hoodies, even though more than half the UK population see them as anti-social, and wrongly so, do you? The whole arguement for the ban is really quite pathetic!
Sorry but hoodies are banned
Submitted by MB on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 4:26pm.Sorry but hoodies are banned in shopping centre's,cinema's,pubs,clubs, banks and airports etc etc. I don't think there would be half the fuss made about women wearing these items of clothing if hoodies and helmets were not already banned in many places.
yeah but its not legislation
Submitted by Boco on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 4:33pm.yeah but its not legislation and politicians didnt ban it for reasons i have mentioned above
also banning of hoodies from certain shopping centeres, cinemas was due to their corresponding anti-social behaviour. which is not the case with women wearing the niqaab.
and there are times when a women does need to show her face, airport is one of them, but that should be an exception on good grounds, as the police does with hoodies. Not a blanket ban accross the country
This is brilliant
Submitted by Mary on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 12:57pm.This is brilliant. A must read, wish I'd been there.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/06/453255.html
Well done to Catherine for a great defence
Submitted by AL Shahab on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 2:32pm.That was a beautiful rebuttal, against that Murtad kaffir Taj Hargey. Well made argument, these people want to talk about freedom of expression, yet they want to legislate against other peoples freedom. How ridiculous; bloody fools of imbeciles!!!
Full veil is not required in Islam
Submitted by Mudassar on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 3:18pm.The artice I have linked to below is a good start for people to understand about head coverings/full face veils etc etc
http://www.virtualmosque.co.uk/ask-the-vm-do-women-have-to-wear-the-veil/
Pointless Diversion
Submitted by Taz on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 7:38pm.That's not the issue now is it. It is a question of freedom regardless if the niqab or burkha are religious or cultural.
The best
Submitted by Asif on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 6:41pm.This is what mpac is for. tell everyone innocent that we are innocent loving peacful muslims and we protect muslims values by british protecting freedom.
veil you leave the muslim sisters alone
Submitted by khan786 on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 8:22pm.That Taj Hargey does not know what his talking about, however i feel the sister could have articulated a much better argument in my opinion.
Niqaab is Not Fardh
Submitted by omarinbox on Fri, 23/07/2010 - 10:10pm.That Taj Hargey is an Imam.
That means he has studied Islam for his entire academic life. He is a scholar and deserves your respect.
Niqaab is not Fardh and its not even as Islamic as miswaaq.
Taj Hargey is no scholar
Submitted by khan786 on Sat, 24/07/2010 - 6:13pm.omarinbox - his just an imam, his no islamic scholar.
your right about one thing and that is it's not fardh but to say its not islamic your very wrong.
The sellout clown taj hargey says that its a cultural thing and a wahabi/saudi invention lol when in fact many sufi/sunni women wear it.
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Well done MPACUK - we need
Submitted by Tahira on Mon, 26/07/2010 - 5:31pm.Well done MPACUK - we need more sisters defending Muslims in the Media.
The issue isn't about what the ruling is on niqab and whether Muslim women should wear it. The issue is whether we should all be free to dress however we choose without MPs telling us what to wear! Niqab is just an issue that's being picked up by Islamophobes to attack Muslims generally.
niqab and burka
Submitted by Anonymous786123 on Tue, 27/07/2010 - 9:26am.I assume people here realise the niqab and burka are disproven by The Quran? It says believing men and women are free to eat in each others company in 24:61, are people here implying The Quran means women must put food under the niqab? Doubt it.
There is also a verse about recognition of Mary by her people when she returned to them, and we are told not to choose someone based on beauty, all of this is impossible with a burka. There are many articles about this subject, e.g. www.learn-about-islam.com etc.