UKIP Declares War on BNP

UKIP, England's 'acceptable' face of Islamophobia, have for the last few years been trying to portray themselves as a mainstream party. Recently, having been pushed into the shadows of obscurity by the fascist British National Party, UKIP have decided to follow suit and drawn clear battle lines for the Islamphobic vote.
Their latest proposal is being spearheaded by their highest profile politician Nigel Farage, former leader of the party and an MEP, who is calling for a ban on the Niqab. The call is expected to come with a warning from UKIP that the UK is under a terrible threat from Sharia (apparently we have longer than 45 minutes).
This move doesn't come as a surprise considering the party is now being lead by hardcore Islamophobe Lord Pearson, who claims that the UK is under threat from Muslims because they "are breeding ten times faster than us". Lord Pearson is also a good chum of Dutch fascist, Geert Wilders, who insinuates that "Muslims are fascists" because they follow the Koran, "a fascist book".
Muslims should ensure that UKIP are denied any victory in any British election by voting for parties that can defeat them. We don't need any more fascist parties. They seem to be breeding like rabbits.
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Defeating Islam 2
Submitted by Clifford on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 12:02am.And UKIP and BNP should should embrace and propogate Biblical Christianity to defeat islam.
Perhaps you should ask
Submitted by Perhaps? on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 12:47am.Perhaps you should ask yourselves why people have voted in increasing numbers for these parties in recent years, and how the behaviour and demands of vocal segements of the Muslim community have contributed to that.
I hate the pair of these parties but if they do have any success at the next election I certainly know that the latter has had a contributing role in that in underming the social cohesion of this country.like no other minority in this country.
How putting up two pictures
Submitted by How about..... on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 2:43am.How putting up two pictures of certain notable UK Muslim leaders from the UK with the caption 'Spot the homophobe' ?
Or perhaps the Isreali flag you use here with the Swastika on it on MPACUK's site (about as sensitive and considerate as Danish newspaper cartoons of Mohammed) and we can all play spot the anti-Semite?
So why does UKIP think its a vote winner?
Submitted by Anonymous Coward on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 7:26am.Because it is!
Perhaps if the UK Muslim (supposed) leadership spent more time helping Muslims integrate into the existing society and social structures in the UK instead of carving (forcing) a niche of separate development and special accommodations then the BNP and UKIP would have no oxygen.
When British Communities have had the nature of their traditions trampled-on and the assertion of what are still alien cultures and religious practises being so open and in-your-face then I understand why the BNP and UKIP have support for their views.
No-one would care about the Muslim rights of worship and religious observance if it weren't so obviously trying to spread and maintain a culture of separation and special rights instead of integration in a seamless way as other religions and immigrant races have done.
Farage knows that being
Submitted by Shaan on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 12:33pm.Farage knows that being anti-Europe has not won them enough power ,so whats the next best thing to do ,get on the Muslim bashing bandwagon.
it seems UKIP has turned into a rich mans Bnp,instead of debating on their policies it is always easier to attack minorities to point score.
What other religions have integrated in a seamless way ,Puritan sikhs were their beards-turbans and Carry their kirpans ,orthodox jews keep their beards-hats and women cover their heads,as for hindus they have no outward personal religious code,so they in the open have no distinction to tell them apart ,in their temples and home they do what their religious traditions are.
Muslim who wish to keep a beard-turban or the female wishes to cover her face ,that is none of your or anyone else's business,muslins are lectured that if someone wants to go around half naked-be a homosexual or lesbian its their business then why do hypocrites forget this when lecturing muslims.
As for security issues lets ban-hats-caps-beards-glasses-make up-balaclavas-hoods-plastic surgery and any other item that can be use to disguise yourself.
There is no such thing as Islamophobia
Submitted by Kuffarphobia Detector on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 12:36pm.That word is a vile obscenity and slur, a false construct based on a lie.
Shaan knows little
Submitted by Anonymous Coward on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 1:07pm."As for security issues lets ban-hats-caps-beards-glasses-make up-balaclavas-hoods-plastic surgery and any other item that can be use to disguise yourself."
IDIOT!
The wearing of balaclavas, hoods and helmets is prohibited in banks.
You cannot present an identity photo if your face is covered - so why should women wearing a burkha or niqab be any different? Tell us how a face covered by burkha or niqab can pass a security test where you must identify yourself.
"Puritan sikhs were their beards-turbans and Carry their kirpans ,orthodox jews keep their beards-hats and women cover their heads"
And NONE of them hide their faces. Beards are a part of facial characteristics. Orthodox Jewish dress is part of traditional European culture. Niqab and burkha are not and such covering offends the rights of all women under European Law.
So, just remember we are in EUROPE and NOT Saudi Arabia.
Hate Crimes Up Whenever These Morons Are Elected
Submitted by Hotter Than A Pile Of Curry on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 1:50pm.Racists in suits who smile to your face and stab you when your back is turned.
The reason for their rise has nothing to do with islamists or any other nightmarish term concocted by the blogosphere.
mainstream parties are perceived as not representing the ordinary UK citizen, and thats why you have a rise in these fringe elements, who now garner mass appeal by their pretence of ditching their prejudiced past.
Where-ever these fascists have been elected, hate crimes have gone up, against ALL BME (Black, Minority & Ethnic) populations.
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Remind me - what race is Islam again?
Submitted by Man with a bad memory on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 2:07pm.FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME:
ISLAM IS NOT A RACE
Seek Common Cause
Submitted by Q on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 2:10pm.These two men exploit an obsession with minutiae and the medias & interest groups focus on these.
99% of people regardless of faith face the same daily problems and challenges.
We are ill-served by a media that avoids exploring the complex issues of the day and reduces everything to banalities. We are ill-served by elites that exploit this situation, and these elites are those amongst us.
We have allowed divisions to rise and being reinforced by introspection. It should be a matter of real concerns to us that there are those among us who are not functionally literate in English. Whether these are women hidden behind cultural identities or imams brought in to meet the demand sof elites, it is a problem.
To some extent there is a clash of cultures, and the rational response is to synthesise an accomodation based on mutual respect. It is not as I have sadly witnessed acceptable to use abominable language to defame someone who's values differ from your own.
The example I experienced was a group of boys who quite voluably accused a group of Catholic girls, who happened to be performing a piece of ballet, of being whores and sluts because they weren't wearing clothes that accorded to Quranic requirements. The girls were deeply upset and no doubt took that home and their parents attitudes would have been affected.
many of the people who influence thinking among the Muslim community are simply out of touch with the sensibilities of the majority and invariable say & do things with alienate. During the Salman Rushdie affair where there was book burning, it was clear that the leaders had no idea what book burning meant in western European culture and its assocation with fascism.
As a minority the Muslim community either seeks explicit common cause with the majority working class, or remains suspected and resented aliens. If you choose the latter then don't be surprised if EDL & BNP exploit the situation for their own ends.
When people apply for ID
Submitted by Shaan on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 2:16pm.When people apply for ID their faces are not covered, if anyone who requires to know the id of a person wishes to verify it, he can do so by asking the lady in question to remove her veil infront of a female person.
before calling others idiots farage said face covering veils should be banned, he did not say ban people from entering banks with veils ,so get your own facts right.
As for the veil the full face is not covered, the most important way of recognising people today is their eyes and outer eye structure, for that reason people are told to take their glasses of for ID photos,women who wear veils don't cover their eyes.
Banning Face Coverings??
Submitted by Q on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 6:50pm.What right does Mr. Farage seek the right to ban face coverings, and quite what does he mean by it. Does he mean that if I wear a scarf across my face, or a balakla I will have broken the law? I suspect not. Perhaps he means it should be required that all persons without reference to faith or gender may be legally required upon request to expose their faces in order that their identity may be verified for formal purposes.
Or perhaps he means it's easier to whip up absurd furore about Muslim women than own up to the bankruptcy of his own ideas.
Interestingly, and casting my aged mind back decades to the old Breach of Promise law, surely a person wearing any form of make up is in fact masking or altering their appearance. Is Mr. Farage going to demanded that women ( and men) remove their makeup to allow for positive identification? And what of cross-dressers / transvestites?
A law that applies to all
Submitted by Anonymous Coward on Mon, 18/01/2010 - 8:39pm."Perhaps he means it should be required that all persons without reference to faith or gender may be legally required upon request to expose their faces in order that their identity may be verified for formal purposes."
Yes, that's it. And, in particular he realises that women who cover their faces with a burkha or niqab would be in breach of a law that demands you be able to clearly identify yourself in certain security situations (like bank or post-office) by video camera.
Its a simple and reasonable request that equally applies to anyone wearing a balaklava or motorcycle helmet - or even a Batman & Robin mask.
Is it discrimination? No! If taken to that extreme we could argue that insisting than an Imam be a Muslim is discriminatory.