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Banning Islam4UK: The Fallout

Islam4UK vs Quilliam Foundation - Jeremy Paxman Majid Nawaz and Anjun Choudhury on Newsnight

It is now a criminal offence, punishable with a ten year jail sentence if you are a member of Islam4UK under “glorification” of terrorism laws. I’ve never been a fan of the group or their leadership, however, one has to look closely at the game being played.

While some have been debating whether or not they should be a proscribed organisation and the merits of it’s success, both sides have been playing a very careful game of propaganda.

Primarily, Anjem Choudary is given media time and publicity because big media need a pantomime villain or vocal outspoken Muslim (depending on your perspective) to demonise the entire Muslim community with, this of course has a double advantage in that it allows the government to push through more draconian laws to eat away at all of our ever shrinking civil liberties.

Secondly, my biggest fear from this is the government can now legitimise their position, whereby they can and will now silence anyone who opposes their murderous foreign policy. Increasing numbers of people are seeing the government as a totalitarian dictatorship when it comes to anyone who opposes their agenda.

The general view amongst the younger, less read Muslims will be an increase in a “blame the kuff” mentality. The general feeling of alienation runs prevalent among the themes of; they can be arrested for holding demonstrations and if you say the war is immoral or wrong, your group is banned and you are made to look like terrorists. If you open up new organisations, the government will invent a new law banning an individual from running an organisation that criticises the governments for state sponsored acts of terrorism against Muslims.

Anjem Choudary stated:

“What the people will see is if you don’t agree with the government and you want to expose their foreign policy, then freedom quickly dissipates and turns into dictatorship.”

The government sat on its hands for far too long, and waited for a catalyst of an event to take place, such as the proposed march through Wootton Bassett, before it would act, the only victory for any side here is pyrrhic at best.

Watching Anjem & Maj go at it on Newsnight lastnight (here on the BBC) was shameful to say the least, with the two bickering like little children in a school playground.

This is precisely the issue, neither of the two individuals, and the groups they represent, carry any sort of mass appeal to Muslims in the UK, yet they are given a platform on the media as so called 'representatives' of what Muslims in this country are like and these are the types of Muslims that the masses are allowed to see.

Seeing both of them are Muslims (far be it for me to pass takfir) perhaps they need to be reminded that we are told to constantly stick to the middle ground, follow the Siratul-Mustaqueem, it would be ideal for all to heed such advice.

There has been a sustained media scaremongering campaign, the net result has been a conditioning of our mindsets to accept the criminalising of dissenting opinion.

As I see it, if groups such as these are proscribed, they will be driven underground, they will become violent, thereby becoming the self-fulfilling prophecy that the government will have you believe about Muslims.

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Let them become violent, then

Let them become violent, then the propagation of Biblical Christianity will become easier.

 

Immature Behavior

I've got to ask this. Are all Muslims that immature & insecure in their faith that when they don't get their way they have to resort to temper tantrums and violent out bursts?. If that is a sign of a Muslim then you all can keep it. In Christianity, immaturity= lack of faith.

 

It is a matter of a fact that

It is a matter of a fact that the government is behind the vilification and demonisation of the muslim community in britain to pass laws that they otherwise could not.
this is how british government's have worked for the last 100 years if not more,jews-irish-blacks asians all have been villfied and demonised to pass laws and get the people behind the governments of the day.
CI you christians are so mature that when you do not get your way, you murder and maim millions to get your way that really is mature but then i suppose in your thinking that probably is mature behaviour,as seen here and now in Iraq and afghan.

 

Shaan The Zionist Stooge Strikes Again

You keep trying to make Muslims look ridiculous. Good Hasbara for Israel - have another shekel!

 

Subodai u r just a bad

Subodai u r just a bad mouthed lout....anything good the West has today was learned from the Muslims 100s of years ago who were more advanced and civilised than the west is now so stop trying to pretend you are the prime of all civilisation after u butchered and destroyed Muslim countries in as you admit yourself a history of crimes.

 

Sahara,go and cry to your

Sahara,go and cry to your mummy(She is good in bed)Facts are facts!

 

MPACUK Stand Not Logical

Islam4UK is exactly what MPACUK's goal is for the UK, even though they deny their not. How else would you explain that they mention Chowderhead and Islam4UK multiple times, and excuse the use of violence by them if they don't get their way, when they claim to dislike both? There is something rotten in Denmark. Or is it, if it looks like a fish and smells like a fis it's a fish.

 

@clifford, you can decry

@clifford, you can decry islam4uk as much as you want, but you are pretty much like him. Both religious extremists on benefits.

 

The fool Subodai that uses a

The fool Subodai that uses a Muslim name. Do you realise how stupid you are maybe your daddys sperm was malfunctioning on vodka or whatever you dumb paddys drink when he got your drug whore mum up the duff.
Stupid Irish boy probably doesnt even realise that signs displayed "No Irish and No Dogs" on hotels etc in Britain. Wonder what he thinks about the Protestant liberation of northern Ireland haha.

 

To sahara and the other cunt

To sahara and the other cunt above,we have learnt FUCK ALL FROM YOU PIG FUCKING PEADO LOVING CUNTS and try reading a BOOK you might learn about names concerning non muslims,like the Mongols.WANKERS

 

Isuppose you muslim scum

Isuppose you muslim scum invented everything in the whole world !LOL

 

Oh yeah pig fuckers,the posts

Oh yeah pig fuckers,the posts were by me,Subodaiiiii,non muslim name,until you stole it WANKERS!!!!!!!!

 

Well now that Islam4UK has

Well now that Islam4UK has been sort of banned a bit I expect they'll have to come up with a new name for themselves.

Islam5UK.
Benefit Scroungers For Jihad.
Big Beards Against Christianity.
Small Penises Against Christianity.

It's just another religion. You are not special. Shut up about it.

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