Three Asians Fight the BNP - Mosques do Nothing!

10:57 am, Sun 9 May 2010

In a show of defiance worthy of the tradition of when the Jewish community fought Oswald Mosley's fascists, three young Asian guys in Barking stood up to the fascist hate-mongers of the BNP.

These three guys stood up and fought. The question is: did they have to? MPACUK want to know why did they have to?

The Muslims in Barking knew the BNP were targeting that area for years, yet the Mosques haven't helped organise a Muslim and non-Muslim political counter.

The Mosques haven't politicised their youth so that they can fight back without being arrested and their young lives blighted by a criminal record.

The Mosques haven't equipped the community to fight back in a co-ordinated manner, exposing these three young vulnerable men to stand up for all the Muslims in Barking.

MPACUK don't condemn these young men for fighting back. MPACUK condemns the Mosques for allowing them to.

When are we going to realise that our Mosques have a duty to their community, both Muslim and non-Muslim? When are we going to realise that our Mosques must do more to protect the Ummah and organise that defence? The Mosques in Barking have failed. These three brave boys have been sacrificed on the altar of the incompetence of the Muslim Leaders' ego.

May Allah forgive them for their dereliction of duty towards these three men in particular, the Muslims of Barking in general and to the public as a whole.

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17 comments

Spitting in someones face???

Submitted by Anonymous Coward on Sun, 09/05/2010 - 9:10am.

Does mpacuk think spitting in people's face who you disagree with is the way forward??
You seriously let yourself down,
mpacuk is supposed be about political action and lobbying, not spitting in faces and mob rule
you should change your endorsement of this

I think the point of the

Submitted by ShadowLite on Sun, 09/05/2010 - 9:40am.

I think the point of the article is to show that people and the asian youth are not as apathetic as people think they are and that they do care about their society. but because the asian community and thier leaders have not taught them how to harness that into a political and proactive way. they end up doing this.

They are brave, but it will amount to nothing, cos the ummah hasnt lived up to its duty to fight oppression where ever it stands.

A scared hoodie, a leery

Submitted by Anonymous Coward on Sun, 09/05/2010 - 10:18am.

A scared hoodie, a leery spitting trouble maker and a fat dough boy, out looking for trouble when a whitey comes into their turf, legally canvassing for an election.
Criminals.
If that were three skinheads spitting on a canvassing extreme hijabi, you wouldn't be in the same frame of mind.
Criminals should do their time.
They wont change their ways after a mosque leader shows them the light.. wake up.
Both sides are hatred filled. Telling them the other side is bad is fuelng anger and hatred on both sides.
Freedom of speech for all, without abuse.

Youth were wrong

Submitted by Cosa_Nostra on Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:12pm.

"In a show of defiance worthy of the tradition of when the Jewish community fought Oswald Mosley's fascists.."

It is anti-Semitic to bring Jewish issues into a discussion about Muslims and between Muslims, so we should refrain from such J word. Jewish people claim that its only they who should talk about J history, and dictate J issues to others only.

Coming back to the real question of whether we should stop people canvassing by violence, I think that will encourage the police to throw more young Muslims into prisons. If current rate of incarceration continues, Muslim girls would be running out Muslim men to marry much like the African Americans of USA.

Brave ?...I think not....

Submitted by Sultan(Oxford) on Sun, 09/05/2010 - 4:41pm.

Assalaam alaikum and Greetings

Brave, is to counter the BNP's arguments with sensible counter-arguments to show how dispicable their policies are.

Brave is to tolerate verbal abuse and remain silent (and upright), to show who the guilty party really is and who is the most sensible.

Much as people and Muslims despise the BNP and their policies, spitting at one of the BNP is not the action of brave individual. That's the action of a coward. For one thing, it is unislamic. The second thing, is that by doing so you stoop to the same low-level as the BNP. The action of these 'brave' muslims was akin to uneducated, undisciplined, english hoodie yobs who love t pick a fight.

I'm afraid this incident will only play into the hands of the BNP and its supporters, who will no doubt claim that 'we have lost the right of expression in the UK'. They will claim that there are Muslim no-go areas and if anyone dare to come into these Muslim areas then they are likely to be spat upon if the Muslims do not agree with what they have to say.

As to the issue of whether the Mosques or community leaders in that area should have played a better role. I would say that they should have. But, when you get the mindset that "voting is haram" and "we can't do anything" then that becomes a breading ground for the BNP supporters.

The inaction of Mosques and Community Leaders is at fault here. The parents are responsible for disciplining their kids though. There is no excuse for spitting.

Thankfully, the BNP lost all seats. Which was due to voting.

Wasalaams

How can you support a couple

Submitted by Informed Reader on Sun, 09/05/2010 - 10:24pm.

How can you support a couple of guys spitting and attacking a middle aged man who did not provoke them at all?

The B.N.P are extremely marginalised in this country and they have a minuscule place in our democracy insofar as they have an opinion which is vehemently rejected by a such a vast majority.

What and how do you expect the mosques to counter the B.N.P? You will find that there is absolutely no reason for them to do so since the B.N.P are universally rejected around the country save for a handful of votes which has lead to no seats in Parliament.

We must look a lot closer to home for trouble, our youth need to have more respect for the wider community and refrain from such violent and anti-social behaviour.

Separation

Submitted by Hypocracy on Mon, 10/05/2010 - 3:04am.

Mosques should not be meddling in elections. Britain is not a country where religion dictates policy. If religion enters the political forum you might find yourselves living in economic poverty like many other nations that are run on a theological basis. That is why you find so many people from theocratic regimes queing up at the consulate doors of the western secular nations.

The point is the community should have organised years ago...

Submitted by J Ahmed on Mon, 10/05/2010 - 9:13am.

Salaams

I believe the point made by the article is that the community should have organised constructively against the BNP years ago and the situation happening now should never have come to this (though the Tory and Labour Parties are primarily to blame for the rise of the BNP through ignoring white working class areas of poverty for decades).

The article is to make you think, I doubt anybody really believes spitting in the face of a BNP member is helpful for halal.

Having seen the video on bbc

Submitted by Shaan on Mon, 10/05/2010 - 10:25am.

Having seen the video on bbc news the day it happened ,what i saw was a Bnp racist with 3 to 4 of his mates, goading a 3 young Asian boys ,when the one of the smaller young Asian boys reaches the middle aged racist Bnp candidate, the Bnp racist assaults him to which the youngster spits back at him ,after which the Bnp racist launches a full fisted and kicking assault on the young lads with his mates.
If the young lads had harassed the Bnp racist verbally then they had everyright to do so, otherwise the bnp racist should not have stood as a candidate ,being harrased is part of standing for elections.
but the video i saw clearly showed the young lads were goaded and then attacked, reading some of the comments i could be mistaken for thinking otherwise.

Err, so you think it's ok for

Submitted by Conveniently forgotten on Mon, 10/05/2010 - 7:47pm.

Err, so you think it's ok for the gentleman from the BNP to provoke them by shouting out 'how many of you are robbers?'

To "Conveniently Forgotten"

Submitted by J Ahmed on Tue, 11/05/2010 - 2:02pm.

I thought the bloke said that ('robbers') but if you listen closely he says, "how many are there of us" or similar - basically there was obviously some sort of argument before the camera was turned on and the BNP bloke was saying that there were too many of the BNP group for the Asian group to attack.

The only thing we know for sure from what he shouted is that the BNP bloke can't speak English properly.

Re BNP fight

Submitted by Salim on Mon, 10/05/2010 - 11:04pm.

the only sad part here is that a bunch of fat nazis seemed to have come off better in that altercation.

Couldn't some brothers who can actually fight have turned up.

As for "the way forward" i think theres a time and place for everything and i have a lot of time and plenty of places to kick the **** out of BNPers.

MPACUK stoops to a new low

Submitted by Imran Khan on Tue, 11/05/2010 - 10:54am.

Why do we have these half-wits opening their mouths and making complete fools out of themselves and, worse still, allowing themselves to be used as fodder to further tarnish the reputation of Muslims per se?
Why can't you idiots stay silent; learn you religion; stop ridiculing the Sunnah (i.e. the beard and the isbaal, which amounts to kufr mind you); stop lambasting the humble and more worthy efforts of mosque attendees and leaders, many of whom, help educate the youth on the keys to al-Jannah, which does not include becoming "politically conscious" (as your idiotic leader Asghar states ad nauseam).

How is this defined as brave in Islam? May be in your warped minds, but certainly not condoned in Islam, which calls for the highest levels of behaviour.
Honestly, you people need to wake up and realise that your inflammatory tactics are no different to the BNP; they take exaggerate and scaremonger and so do you.

For shame!

Frankly, they need to do

Submitted by ShadowLite on Tue, 11/05/2010 - 5:46pm.

Frankly, they need to do more. They are but a shadow of what they are ment to be as the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him). All they do is teach kids how to read the Quran and not what it means. That they need to obey their elders but not what respect is. All there is in alot but not all mosques in the UK is ritual and no essence of Islam

Looked to me that it was BNP goading

Submitted by Anonymous Coward, not really on Tue, 11/05/2010 - 4:27pm.

I watched the video like Shaan. Bit difficult to see and hear all but certainly looked like the would be BNP MP asked how many of them were robbers. They got riled and asked what he said, BNP repeated it and then there was some pushing. The BNP then started saying there were more of them. It looked to me that the BNP candidate might have given a small spit himself before the big spit from the young guy which resulted in BNP man beating the hell out of him.

No would be MP should act like this. As a non Muslim he is main villain to me.

Still good point made in the article, with such thugs as the BNP it is a good idea to learn not to get riled. That is what they want.