Podcast: MPACUK on BBC Radio Oxford about 'Lunatic Fringes'

The MPAC viewpoint which i heard was full of absurd reasoning. he said that with anjem doing these protests.,,it will inflaim tensions between muslims and non muslims and will make it harder for muslim relations in this country.and will make muslims suffer?....what a load of nonsense.....

you really think that the people in the powerful positions realy make decisions regarding wars based upon muslim relations? did they talk to us when the decided to go to war in afghanistan and iraq? are these leaders helping us in any way to sort out the situation in palestine? why are we so bothered what they think of us? they kill thousands of muslims every day and you want to have good relations with these guys? muslims are allready suffering all around the world anyway?

the islamic viewpoint is clear on these issues....2 million muslims living in this country is still the minority in the world ummah.....the muslim arab countries which are defending themselves from occupation really don't need a bunch of muslim apologists from the uk who just seem bothered about "public relations" with the west.

I think anjems methods are sometimes to be questioned but how dare you say that he is just doing it to inflame tensions..?
how dare you question his morals and ethics? as the prophet once said " have you opened his chest to see his heart" "so how do you know what he is thinking" to me his antics are sometimes radical to say the least but at least he seems to fear only allah while some people seem to fear people, the way you should fear allah...come on guys....the people of britain spoke out on the war when they did the march in london and public opinion regarding this issue is shifting rapidly with the unfortunate deaths of the british soldiers who are told a pack of lies by our leaders...

we as muslims have every right to protest against the kiiling of innocent people whether muslim or not and try to bring these issues into the mainstream media which this proposed march has acheived...well done anjam

Keep quiet MPACUK and let Chowderhead indict himself and Islam with his big fat mouth.

@CI, Nothing compared to the rash your mother gave me last night

Protest is an inalienable right in our democracy. To borrow from Voltaire: I may not agree with those protesters, but I would defend their right to protest.

The argument put forward by MPACUK's spokesman on this programme that the march, if it goes ahead, would drive a wedge in community relations vis-a-vis Muslims and others, is weak and besides the point.

The politicians from all denominations are using the military marches and soldiers funerals as tools of propaganda invoking the last refuge of a scoundrel, that is false patriotism, for what is essentially now an illegal war. It is right to remind the general public that the heroes they may be worshipping are also responsible, directly or indirectly, in the death of a huge number of innocent civilians. The soldiers have a choice, they don't have to serve in Afghanistan or in the army. The innocent civilians have no choice

We hear in our media almost every day about the soldiers being killed but the same media remain silent on civilian deaths as if they do not matter. Recently US backed forces took 25 children out of their beds in the middle of the night and shot them. Heroic indeed! Yet, there was no mention of this in the media.

I don't know Islam4UK motives, but if they have any sense they would refrain from provocative and inflammatory placards and simply march the empty coffins in silence.

In this respect I have sympathise with ASH2 comments. I think MPACUK has let their dislike of Anjum Chaudhary get in the way of an important political and humanitarian point that he will be making in this march. But as I said before, on his past performance, I am not sure of his agenda.

Tsk,firstly,Voltaire was a Frenchman and as such carries no weight on these shores.Secondly,"the last refuge of a scoundrel is patriotism" no mention of "false patriotism".As for our media,yours would be some sort of Taliban run media,not ours,there were no 25 children.Do the Taliban have a choice to kill and maim?Don't give me all that bollocks about freedom fighters as there are plenty of your Afgan brothers who don't want that type of freedom.To conclude,what the fuck would you or your little arse bandit mate ash2 know about humanity.Since you like quotes(even wrong ones),here's one for you.I once knew a man who complained that he had no shoes,then he met a man who had no feet.Think about that and your position in this country!

just tried to log on to islam4uk.com....it has been blocked.......so much for free speech huh?...

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-- Noam Chomsky

Let's let the Israelis carpet bomb the palli's, we load our muzzies into derelict cargo containers take 'm out to sea and sink'em 2 million problems solve quick and neat. Let every other country with a problem islamic minority do the same. I mean they really (muzzies) have no right to bitch considering they (muslims) murdered tens of millions of hindus invading India, the murdered 1.5 million Christian Armenians, slowly destroying the Copts in Egypt, are committing genocide as we speak in Darfar and Iraq against Christian communities there. Muslims are constantly preaching genocide against the jews. They have ethnically cleansed Pakistan and Bangladesh of Hindus and Sikhs so let's just finish the whiny islamic shits off and be done with it. Throw a couple of nuke at mecca and medina the rest of them will be so busy pissing them selves in disbelief that they won't even notice the disappearence of their co-religionists all over the rest of the world. And if they do bitch, we finish of the rest and give their deserts to the Indians and Chinese, with climate change they will need land. We can call it a culling, humanities most inbred and retarded removed from the planet more for everyone else. Think you will be able to fly without fear of some muzzie fanatic blowing up your plane. The more I think about it the better it sounds

Mr. Choudary may be someone, many disagree with profoundly, but he comes across as rational and considered. He presents himself as credibly representing Islamic paradigms.
Compare his comments with those of people here and not the difference. Here are obscenities where contributors make gross allegations against the mother's of others.
This whole insult thing must stop and MPACUK has a duty to enforce it. Using abusive language services only to increase anger. It certainly is not rational debate.