Kings, Dictators & Western Superpowers Will Not Stop a Muslim Revolution

10:52 pm, Thu 4 Feb 2010

You may never have heard of this in any of the mainstream press, but Revolution is what is happening in the Muslim world. The only analyst I have ever heard say this is the outspoken Michael Sheuer, the CIA chief who was tasked to track down and kill Bin Laden – he was spot on.

For over a hundred years, occupation, dictators, genocides, oppression and the theft of natural resources on an unprecedented scale has been visited on the Muslim world by Western elites. This is the chief reason for what you are seeing today around the world – thousands of young men from all backgrounds taking up armed resistance (in Arabic, 'Jihad').

Revolution was inevitable – no people in the world are oppressed forever without struggling for freedom and Muslims are no different.

The interesting propaganda picture that is painted in the corporate media, if analysed, reveals the dark, secret core of planned thinking to keep the masses from seeing what is really happening.

The phrase ‘The war on terror’ itself held the clue. The words carefully highlighted some of the ‘tactics’ of armed resistance groups (terrorism) but carefully avoided the reason for the resistance itself.

It was like saying, ‘We are fighting a war on thieves’. At first glance, a perfectly reasonable campaign, yet by refusing to look at a land full of starving people because all the farms had been stolen from them by greedy corporations - the real root cause of so many then taking to robbery, we would soon realise not just how futile it was but how we would go about trying to stop it.

If a corporation then vilified anyone trying to explain this as ‘justifying thieving’ – you could well see a hidden reason for them doing so. ‘The war on terror’ has its own hidden reasons.

If and when an explanation was given by Western governments and the media, it was a two dimensional, a black and white mantra, originally created and pushed by pro Israeli propagandists who held influential positions in the West – ‘We are fighting evil Islamic extremists, who hate our way of life’.

Again, ‘extremism’ was mentioned – but never a reason as to why so many thousands of Muslims were becoming extreme in the first place. The racist thinking that religious propensity of Muslims to violence was enough, an image that has been carefully nurtured by the Media for years, to justify why they needed to prop up dictators. After all, who else would keep the violent barbarians at bay?

To prove that extremism was well and truly alive, they looked to ultra-conservative Saudi-style groups and their austere and harsh code of life. To the Western mind, these were portrayed as fanatics, justifying the stereotype and creating the much needed evidence that they were dealing with religious extremists and not rational human beings.

Even if we are to assume they are extreme in their interpretation of Islam, this ultra-conservatism was their personal belief and not the root reason they wage armed resistance. By conflating the two, they had a propaganda coup.

In reality, armed resistance was taken up by all Muslim schools of thought, from Sufi through to Wahabi and by all sections of society. The recent bombing of the CIA headquarters in Afghanistan was done by a doctor who had been tortured by the Jordanian police under the instruction of the Americans for ‘extremist thinking’. Bin Laden himself was a billionaire.

There is no doubt, however, that in the vacuum of freedom and liberty that the West had imposed upon the Muslim world, ultra-conservative groups have flourished, but even here, Western governments had no right to blame Muslims for it. Take the Taliban, and their very hard interpretation of Islam that the Western propaganda units like to use against Muslims in their ideological war.

It is well documented how the CIA paid for Saudi religious books to be shipped to the refugee camps that later would create the Taliban and their strict interpretation of Islam. It was not the Muslims who backed the Saudi regime, nor were they elected – it was Washington and it was primarily the Saudi regime with this ultra-conservative version Islam that was propagated around the world.

Yet skilfully governing elites used propaganda power to blame Muslims. In a complete reversal of reality they not only created the problem but then used the very extremism they created to continue to justify a war on extremists. In reality, ultra conservative Islam was nothing more than cover to highlight difference. Resistance had another root: violent oppression backed by Western governments.

History has shown that under the yoke of oppression, hardcore beliefs and ideologies are more readily adopted. One only has to look at the late, great Malcolm X to see how even in America, humans who suffer bestial oppression can turn someone to any belief that removes that oppression.

Western powers have no moral high ground with which to preach to Muslims about liberty or higher ideals they claim to hold. They have taken the liberty of millions of Muslims and replaced it with billionaire tyrants who tortured and enslaved their own people (e.g. Egypt’s Mubarak), barbaric occupying powers (Israel) and a never-ending war that has killed millions of Muslim children (Iraq).

Yet by backing ever more corrupt dictators (Yemen) it seems they had not learned their lesson. You cannot stop a revolution by creating the very conditions that led to its creation. No amount of puppets, tyrants or wars will stop this revolution. Instead they should give the Muslims something they have so far denied them – Freedom.

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14 comments

Viva La Revolución

Submitted by HotterThanAPile... on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 9:39am.

We need a revolution every generation.

You have to be ready in order to preserve the vitality of your liberty and freedom to defend it, not by overthrowing anything else other than what you have been holding in your head, that which is not applicable anymore.

We have gotten very lazy, we are many generations overdue for a revolution in our thinking, and i’m not advocating blood or violence in the streets but that is already happening.

I’m talking about a revolution, that’s probably of the hardest kind, the revolution that happens in the human mind and soul.

You have to tear everything up, start with a completely fresh sheet of paper.

Ask yourself the question, how do I solve this problem?

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brilliant article!

Submitted by icbm on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 9:47am.

nice one MPAC this article is a real eye opener, keep up the good work.

Excellent analysis

Submitted by The Truth on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 12:42pm.

Excellent analysis, people seek to deny the truth but the truth always comes out....always. That alone should make one think.

As usual shoddy analysis

Submitted by Dmoloney on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 5:14pm.

For over a hundred years, occupation, dictators, genocides, oppression and the theft of natural resources on an unprecedented scale has been visited on the Muslim world by Western elites.

Both sides have engaged in mass acts of cruelty against one another, even in this century millions of Christians were killed by the Turks, large numbers were killed by the Sudanese government as well as by the Indonesian, it was not just a one way thing.

This is the chief reason for what you are seeing today around the world – thousands of young men from all backgrounds taking up armed

Nonsense, the problem is the media that these young men(and women) watch, it is very biased, the good things the west has done are ignored, the controversial things are turned into negative things and the negative things the west has done are blown out of proportion.

It’s not just the media though, it is also the fact that some people are simply violent and are attracted to the simplistic worldview jihadism offers, along with the chance to commit violent actions and feel self-righteous about it.

no people in the world are oppressed forever without struggling for freedom and Muslims are no different.

Most of the higher ups in al Qaeda and other similar groups are not interested in freedom, as shown by their support for the Taliban, one of their main grudges against those leaders in the middle east is not their oppression, but the fact that they are not oppressive enough for they do not follow a strict enough view of the Koran.

but carefully avoided the reason for the resistance itself.

Some groups are mainly nationalistic such as Hezbollah or the Palestinian groups however groups such as al Qaeda are clearly out to establish an extremist caliphate, they are the ones who are imperialistic, that’s their reason, sure they sometimes give reasons that sound reasonable, but these are phony, why has bin laden not declared jihad against the government of Sudan which has killed 100,000 people, why did he not go against the Taliban for their oppression.

It was like saying, ‘We are fighting a war on thieves’. At first glance, a perfectly reasonable campaign, yet by refusing to look at a land full of starving people because all the farms had been stolen from them by greedy corporations - the real root cause of so many then taking to robbery, we would soon realize not just how futile it was but how we would go about trying to stop it.

The problem with this example is that the people in it are forced to do what they do to survive, the jihadists do not, they are the ones looking for trouble, as bin laden himself admitted to Abdul Bari Atwan, he wanted the US to invade countries with Muslim majority populations and that is why he committed terrorist actions against it, to provoke the US.

pushed by pro Israeli propagandists who held influential positions in the West – ‘We are fighting evil Islamic extremists, who hate our way of life’.
The Muslim extremists do hate our way of life, Zarqawi made it clear in his statements that democracy was the enemy, as for the pro-Israelis they do indeed try to delegitimize the Palestinian cause by lumping them in with al Qaeda which is wrong, Palestinian terrorist actions against civilians is completely wrong(just as Israeli actions against Arab civilians is wrong) however their overall goal is to have their own country, al Qaeda’s on the other hand is to form an oppressive empire, a caliphate which will encompass areas such as Palestine and force their warped ideology down the throats of their victims

but never a reason as to why so many thousands of Muslims were becoming extreme in the first place.

They become extreme due to external and internal factors, the external is the extreme biased media that they view, the internal reasons are due to the fact that they personally are attracted to the jihadist lifestyle and narrative, so much so that they will block information which shows that it is faulty to justify

why they needed to prop up dictators. After all, who else would keep the violent barbarians at bay?

Again the extremists are against the dictators because they feel that they are not extremist enough, also a study in foreign affairs magazine recently showed that in free elections islamists don’t do half as good as people are let on to believe, as a rule they in fact do quite poorly.

In reality, armed resistance was taken up by all Muslim schools of thought, from Sufi through to Wahabi and by all sections of society.

Wahabism was an aggressive force before any significant European interference

There is no doubt, however, that in the vacuum of freedom and liberty that the West had imposed upon the Muslim world, ultra-conservative groups have flourished

This not true, there was a lack of freedom in the Muslim world before the Europeans arrived due to Turkish imperialism, there was no democracy, those who came after the Turks operated more or less in the same way in regards to civil rights and many of those rulers who were imposed have been long overthrown, also as explained before the jihadist groups are against freedoms, there angry for they feel that they is too much freedom The entire argument that the west is propping up dictators is weak, what do you want the west to do exactly, place sanctions on the entire middle east, nonsense, the west if anything should open relations with the other oppressive rulers in the region such as Iran and Syria, that way the economies of those two countries will improve and the people will benefit, overtime the countries will become more open, whenever the west shut a country out the regimes failed to make any progress towards freedom and the people faced hard economic circumstances. Also they are many Muslim democracies, turkey for example, if Muslims are so concerned about having relations with nations such as Egypt why don’t they get their countries to break off relations first. Finally a lot of these governments have a lot more support from the people in the region than one would think, Arabs recently voted Assad as the ruler they like most, yet his country along with Saudi Arabia are the most oppressive

Western governments had no right to blame Muslims for it.

Take the Taliban, and their very hard interpretation of Islam that the Western propaganda units like to use against Muslims in their ideological war. It is well documented how the CIA paid for Saudi religious books to be shipped to the refugee camps that later would create the Taliban and their strict interpretation of Islam

I see that this website is reduced to making a mountain out of a mole-hill, US aid primarily went towards military equipment, the jihadist rhetoric started before any aid was sent and this extremist ideology was primarily spread by extremist Muslims from governments to private citizens from all over the Muslim world, the US also did not create the ideology, a lot of it came from the Indian sub-continent beforehand and from writers from the middle east.

In a complete reversal of reality they not only created the problem but then used the very extremism they created to continue to justify a war on extremists.

They did not create the problem, vast violent literature existed before hand and this was gobbled up by individuals who were attracted towards its views, the entire idea that the US and al Qaeda walked hand in hand has been debunked on numerous occasions

They have taken the liberty of millions of Muslims and replaced it with billionaire tyrants who tortured and enslaved their own people (e.g. Egypt’s Mubarak),
The writer should seriously consult with a history book, they did not put Mubarak in charge, the western appointed government was over-thrown, Nasser eventually came to power, then Sadat and then he appointed Mubarak you now runs a country more openly that Nasser ever did, it’s also rich of this website to criticize him when it does nothing but praise the government in Iran which is even more oppressive according to freedom house and reporters without borders, what a hypocrite, I like to be consistent however, the west should have open links with both countries, sanctions are pointless and stupid as are the arguments that the west needs to "prop dictators up", look at what has happened whenever the west not only stopped propping someone up but actually turned hostile to him, the dictator remained in power and turned more brutal, Gadaffi, Saddam, the mullahs, Assad, propping, sanctions, they don’t make any difference in how the countries are ruled, so again we might as well open relations with all, yeah the west will then be further accused of supporting more dictators and today’s Muslim heroes will turn into tomorrow’s stooges, but at least the people will be better off such as the iranians who will get valuable airplane equipment

In the wise words of Dr.Dre, "bitch please", the jihadists are clearly against freedom, according to all the major rights groups reporters without borders, freedom house Afghanistan has become more free than it was under the Taliban, Oxfam says it is less violent, unicef says the infant mortality rate has declined 25%, lancet says 40,000 more afghans are alive each year due to the removal of the Taliban and at least a dozen polls have been taken by independent organizations which show afghans prefer life now than they did before. If these jihadists were really influenced by the call of freedom they would not be calling Afghanistan a grievance, they would not be against the intervention and they most bloody certainly not be fighting with or supporting the Taliban whom most afghans disapprove of the western intervention has overall improved the lives of the majority of afghans yet these young men always bizarrely list this as a grievance

Zionist Dmoloney

Submitted by DapperDan on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 6:13pm.

Looks like the Zionist Dmoloney is petrified that Muslims and non Muslims might work out that Israel is one of the main factors that drive Muslims to fight.

That is why such a long and obviously loaded comment was posted.

Zionists teams are well known to visit Muslim sites and try to divert, smear and confuse matters so they can continue with pushing their propaganda line.

DBoloney if the western

Submitted by Shaan on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 6:16pm.

DBoloney if the western terrorists were so benevolent they would have attacked and liberated the occupied lands of palestine and Kashmir. two lands sold into bondage and oppression by British terrorists in the 1940s.
Muslim have never travelled thousands of miles to attack and kill millions whether this century or any other century.
Christian terrorist have here and now travelled thousands of miles to attack and occupy Muslim nations killing and maiming millions in the process ,so using your logic lets invade all poor countries killing millions and then Say after 10 year the living standards have improved ,child mortality has dropped, so in effect the killing of millions has been worth it ,see how quickly you are executed or imprison for life if you are not from the western terrorist nations.
western terrorist nations can attack and kill millions its their god given right like it was to kill tens of million of native americans and take their lands.
it is the God given right to support and finance occupiers- dictator and tyrant to suppress and kill muslims ,it is their God given right to force their way of life on others ,it is their god given right to kill-maim-torture-rape-sodomise and oppress ,why because they can, might is right.
so in the end it all boils down to the old proverb what goes around comes around,if you check the fact is it is christian-Jewish-Hindu and buddhist terrorists who are occupying and killing muslims in their own lands ,when pay back time comes muslims will be well within moral and legal rights carry out Justice on their occupiers and oppressors.

Shaan an interesting

Submitted by DapperDan on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 6:23pm.

Shaan an interesting development by the PAID Zionist Hasbara team 'Dmoloney' and 'Q', they have started to post really long posts, they must have realised that they cannot flood the site like the used to, now they intend to confuse the arguments by putting up long winded flawed arguments in the hope people will be too lazy to reseach and fall for their propoganda...

Very interesting ...........

Looks like the Zionist

Submitted by Dmoloney on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 6:59pm.

Looks like the Zionist Dmoloney is petrified that Muslims and non Muslims might work out that Israel is one of the main factors that drive Muslims to fight.

Actually i have always acknowledged that israel is a reason why muslims from palestine fight, even from my post i defended the palestinian groups and hezbollah as not being the same as al qaeda and that they are motivated by nationalistic reasons, not imperialistic ones

Muslim have never travelled

Submitted by Dmoloney on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 6:58pm.

Muslim have never travelled thousands of miles to attack and kill millions whether this century or any other century.

Showing your ignorance of history again shan, muslims travelled to india and killed millions, and millions of africans were also killed by the arab slave trade

Christian terrorist have here and now travelled thousands of miles to attack and occupy Muslim nations killing and maiming millions in the process

Again shan the war has benefitted afghanistan abnd has overall saved lives, the war in iraq was aterrible error however most of the deaths occured due to muslim on muslim violence

so using your logic lets invade all poor countries killing millions and then Say after 10 year the living standards have improved ,child mortality has dropped, so in effect the killing of millions has been worth it

Actually its up to the citizens of the country to decide whether it was worth it or not, second of all you seem incapable of grasping the nuance of the situation, if you have two options, one which will result in the deaths of relativily few people or one which will result in the deaths of relativily a high number of people which one would you choose, obviously the former option is the most moral.

western terrorist nations can attack and kill millions its their god given right like it was to kill tens of million of native americans and take their lands.
it is the God given right to support and finance occupiers- dictator and tyrant to suppress and kill muslims ,it is their God given right to force their way of life on others ,it is their god given right to kill-maim-torture-rape-sodomise and oppress ,why because they can, might is right.

Spare me your cartoonish analysis and your false tears, your the one who has gone on record stating that he wishes for a scenario in which an excess number of muslims would have died and who has defended saddams genocide

if you check the fact is it is christian-Jewish-Hindu and buddhist terrorists who are occupying and killing muslims in their own lands ,when pay back time comes muslims will be well within moral and legal rights carry out Justice on their occupiers and oppressors.

Sham, if you check your facts you will find that all communities have wronged one another in the past and present, and just because someone of some group wronged another it does not give another member of the wronged group the right to commit violent acts, how would you like if a christian who lost his family in sudan took vengence on you when you had nothing to do with it.

Shaan

Submitted by wahine on Sat, 06/02/2010 - 5:28am.

"it was their God given right to force their way of life upon others" - you are talking about the Islamic conquests of orth Africa, Stain, the Mediterranean lands, the M.E. lands, Turkey, Persia and India, are you not?

The lands that were Christian, Jewish, Bhuddist and Hindy before the muslims thought it was their God given right to force their way of life upon them.

Honestly Shaan, every time you post you show your ignorance. Perhaps you had better go to school tomorrow and learn some history.

But I agree with the authour of this post - truly, muslims are revolting.

DBoloney and wahine we are

Submitted by Shaan on Sat, 06/02/2010 - 12:54pm.

DBoloney and wahine we are talking about here and now, it seem every time Zionist need to make a point they have travel centuries to create justification for their crimes of here and now.
Spain muslim ruled for 800 years 98% christian-India rule by muslims for 1000 years today 87% hindu-sikh.balkans rule by Muslims for around 400 year today 80% christian.
Americas until a few centuries ago 100% non christian today 90% christian so who is forcing their way of life on others.
Palestine before 1924 90% native Palestinian Muslim-Jewish-christian, today around 60% non native Jewish so who is forcing their way of life on others.
DBoloney that's a nice example only a Zionist deviant could come up with such a twisted logic ,lets kill millions occupy the nation and then say look the occupied people are happy we killed millions.
Today dictators and tyrants are supported and armed by western nations to keep the people cowed and oppressed.
as for someone in sudan whose family was killed in fighting between Sudanese muslims and Christians why would he wish to attack me when i have not supported militarily-financially or occupied his nation and killed his family.
you can twist as much as you like but you cannot change the saying what goes around comes around.

What goes around Shaan

Submitted by wahine on Sun, 07/02/2010 - 3:13am.

Islam prevailed by force for centuries before it was overtaken by modern thinkers who gave their people democracy and freedom. Did Islam ever give their followers freedom? Freedom to follow whatever religion,. or no religion? Freedom and equality for women? Did we force Christianity and Judaism on muslims like you did Islam on the countries you conquered?

No modern thinker would ever let Islam dominate their culture if given the choice and the west has that choice which means that medievil theocracies and caliphates will never come around again.
And the peiople who will benefit from that will be the muslims.

As for "Palestine" - can you not get it into your head that you LOST the Ottoman Empire because you joined the wrong side in WW1 hoping to conquer more European terrirtories for the muslims. Now you whinge because the allies won and gave Israel back their ancient homeland which the muslims had conquered from the Xians and Jews.

So here and now, why are muslims still killing Christians in the Phillipines and Bhuddists in Thailand in order to make them muslim areas? And why are muslims still killing and persecuting religious minorities in muslim countries. Christian countries do not rape, beat and kill muslim maids, as they do in Pakistan,hang Jehovah's Witnesses because they are different to the mainstream, we do not bury our daughters alive because they talk to boys as happened in Turkey recently.

It is your vision of history and how it has affected modern society that is twisted - noone who is not a brainwashed muslim wants to live in a society which is oppressive and medievil. The whole world now knows how muslims treat non muslims in the Islamic world and yet Christians would never consider doing the same to muslims in the west. We see muslims killing other muslims in their thousands every day and yet you never whinge about this.

Islam lost the battle for hearts and minds long ago - educated people want none of your theocratic nonsense dreamed up by an illiterate Arab centuries ago. The west have moved forward - if you do not have a mind which can think critically and logically you will remain one of the impoverished losers that your ideology breeds and welfare state societies unfortunately have to feed. Because, unlike Islam, we have human rights!

Wahine answer the fact above

Submitted by Shaan on Mon, 08/02/2010 - 10:46am.

Wahine answer the fact above ,we know as a trained zionits deviant it is your job to twist and turn.
Mindanao muslims are fighting to liberate their lands ,if Christan do not wish to kill muslim and be killed end the occupation ,in yala-patani muslim fighting to end Buddhist occupation of their lands if you feel so bad about buddhist being killed then tell them to end occupation.
As for crimes being committed by individuals it happens every where in the world,when there are no individual criminals be they chrstian-jew-muslim-hindu-sikh-buddhist or whatever then we shall talk.
chrstian have human rights that's why they occupy Iraq and afghan killing and maiming millions of people.
Zionist jews have rights that's why they are occupying-murdering-torturing-sodomising-raping-persecuting-oppressing and daily humiliating millions of Palestinians,from what i can see it seems your religion teaches you have the right and are free to kill and rob others as long as they are not your own fellows.
That's a nice concept maybe others should do the same.

Sham further highlighting his bias

Submitted by Dmoloney on Tue, 09/02/2010 - 3:22pm.

DBoloney and wahine we are talking about here and now, it seem every time Zionist need to make a point they have travel centuries to create justification for their crimes of here and now.

Actually sham, i brought it up because you said this "Muslim have never travelled thousands of miles to attack and kill millions whether this century or any other century.", which as usual coming from you is not correct.

Spain muslim ruled for 800 years 98% christian-India rule by muslims for 1000 years today 87% hindu-sikh.balkans rule by Muslims for around 400 year today 80% christian.
Americas until a few centuries ago 100% non christian today 90% christian so who is forcing their way of life on others.

Yet again you are showing your moronic bias, both sides forced their religions on others, in some areas they we successful, in other areas they were not, the muslims were successful making their religion the dominant one in persia, they were unsuccessful in making their religion the dominant one in india, the christians were successful in the americas, they like the muslims were also unsuccessful in india

DBoloney that's a nice example only a Zionist deviant could come up with such a twisted logic ,lets kill millions occupy the nation and then say look the occupied people are happy we killed millions.

No, sham, the people themselves are only happy if you overall saved lives, which is what happened in afghanistan, the fact that you wanted a scenario to occur which would have caused excess afghan deaths completely discredits you and shows that you do not care about muslims in other countries, so you can spare us all your crocodle tears for the palestinians, unlike myself you do not really care and they deserve better than your false sympathy.

Today dictators and tyrants are supported and armed by western nations to keep the people cowed and oppressed.

Nonesense, the entire world has realtions with these countries not just the west, and the west has in the past encouraged these countires to open up, also the countries that have poor relations with the west are also oppressive, this shows that the west is not a decisive factor into whether or not a country is free or not, is also its a bit rich that you are giving out about oppressive regimes when you called one of the most oppressive countries in the region a democracy

as for someone in sudan whose family was killed in fighting between Sudanese muslims and Christians why would he wish to attack me when i have not supported militarily-financially or occupied his nation and killed his family.

But neither have i

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