Why Can’t All Scholars Be Like Qardawi?

Whenever I talk to a Muslim who follows a scholar I can’t help but think – "another useless waste of space" - as I stand there and listen politely watching my biased opinion come true before my eyes.
You see Muslims who follow scholars are normally but not always as useless as the scholars they follow. They normally fall into two categories, the first are brain dead over-pious-pseudo-practicing types who treat scholars like they treat God - infallible. Any attempt at saying they are wrong creates a reaction that one would expect if one said ‘God is wrong’.
They at first look totally shocked, as they try to work out in their heads if it is possible for their scholar (read God) to be wrong. Once they realise this is impossible since God can never be wrong and thus their scholar cannot ever be wrong on anything, then they slowly start frothing at the mouth and get very, very angry.
I mean have they never thought that if scholars are never wrong, how come they never agree with each other? How can they all be right? Someone must have worked out one of these guys is not all-knowing.
It is easy enough to prove that their scholar is a hopeless, debating on minor points of fiqh, focusing their thoughts on trivia as the whole of the Muslim world burns, but it is almost impossible however to get this logical argument through to the young acolyte who prides himself on following the great scholar in the sky. Sheep are sheep and trying to make a sheep into a race horse only makes you the idiot – better, I always tell myself, to let them keep fooling themselves.
Better to nod a lot and say ‘Wow can I meet the scholar sometime, sadly not now since I have to do Istinja (i.e. wash my backside) really urgently.’
Now I know a lot of my MPACUK friends do not agree with my harsh words, but hey, that’s how I see it.
As for the second type, they listen more acutely, think and can actually debate with you. They do use a certain amount of their own brain as opposed to switching off and plugging into the scholars brain as the others do since the scholar can think better thoughts than they can.
This type is a minority, and they follow practical thinking scholars like Qardawi. Now I am no expert on Qardawi, but what I have read I like.
While the other scholars are talking about how to wash your arse correctly and the fiqh of the matter, he condemned Egypt for building the wall ceiling off the Palestinians. Not surprisingly, Al Azhar "scholars" attacked him for doing this.
He then told the Saudis to stop creating a rift with Yemen and once again was attacked by King Fahd ‘scholars for dollars’ who said he was ‘a political figure and not a scholar’.
And most amazingly while the other scholars were attending an international conference on the permissibility of sitting in a leather chair or wearing a red hijab instead of a black one, he is taking a delegation of switched on scholars to Yemen to broker a peace deal to stop the civil war.
Now that is what I call a scholar. No, I don’t follow him – but for the first time I actually respect someone who calls himself a scholar. If only more scholars got themselves some guts and stood up for the oppressed I might actually see a few smiling Muslim children instead of dead ones when I turn on the TV.
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awesome
Submitted by phoniex on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 9:40am.you are cold my brother you tell is how it is so true most of the people i know they treat there scholars as god but really and truly how many innocent muslim lives have they saved what have they done for the wider community....
Sad ..
Submitted by Capt. Picard on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 10:24am.... that the majority of our scholars just fail to address the real, everyday issues that Muslims are facing. It's up to the rank-and-file Muslims to hold their scholars to account and ensure that they advise and guide about issues that are threatening us.
If Muslims bothered to gain
Submitted by Daud Ingham on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 11:47am.If Muslims bothered to gain knowledge of their religion they would be able to tell when a scholar is giving right information or not.
They would also be able to hold them to account.
So all Muslims get off your backsides and learn some relevant knowledge for once.
Scholars are men of knowledge
Submitted by Justice on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 11:52am.Scholars are men of knowledge but they are not infallible and we must learn to think for ourselves.
Trust this website to give
Submitted by Dmoloney on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 4:29pm.Trust this website to give support to a man who thinks rape victims bring in it on themselves
Trust a zionist deviant to
Submitted by Shaan on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 5:45pm.Trust a zionist deviant to lecture others when he thinks by killing and maiming millions of afghans you are helping them.
only DBoloney could come up with such excuses to support mass murderers.
Qardawi at least has the courage to state the obvious,if the advertising of female beauty has nothing to do with human impulses and responses then why would advertisers spend hundreds of millions every year on advertising brands with attractive females.
why do police adverts ask you to hide your valuables when you leave your vehicles parked up or when in open areas not to flash your valuables about.
when he thinks by killing and
Submitted by Dmoloney on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 6:47pm.when he thinks by killing and maiming millions of afghans you are helping them.
Ah sham, i see that it is bad enough that you support the deaths of innocent afghans(40,000 per year according to an org that you find reliable) but now here you are supporting someone who trys to lay the blame of rape on the victims.
DBoloney could come up with such excuses to support mass murderers.
Your the one who defended saddams genocide and in turn showed that you do not care about muslims abroad, sham, not i.
Why dont you run along now
Dmoloney: Zionist Hasbara
Submitted by DapperDan on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 7:50pm.What a surprise that the Zionist Hasbara team lead also known as Dmoloney is upset by the article.
And as per usual he pulls out the HASBARA script and reads what the propaganda team has written for him, after that it is a quick copy and paste and off he trots to another website and a quick change of name.
Possibly to post as an 'Islamic extremist and anti-Semite' so his team can then write on their manufactured blogs that extremism is alive and well within the targeted site and it should be closed down or at least smeared.
Dmoloney's posts smack of typical Zionist propaganda arguments, a thin veil of logic, but easily proven to be biased, unfactual or just plain lies. Zionists like him however know full well most people will never check the facts or think arguments through, and it is that he relies on.
DapperDan, im just taking
Submitted by Dmoloney on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 8:13pm.DapperDan, im just taking issue with the fact that this man thinks that rape victims bring it on themselves, surely even you find that wrong.
Zionist Hasbara team lead
Submitted by Dmoloney on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 8:24pm.Zionist Hasbara team lead also known as Dmoloney
Also i dont really comment on the israeli issue that much, i suppport both sides, as it stands now i think the israeli settlements are the main barrier to peace
Dmoloney, Im just taking
Submitted by DapperDan on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 9:33pm.Dmoloney, im just taking issue with the fact that you back a state that kills children, is racist, and even steals their organs and sells it on the black market.
I also find is laughable that you are now the champion of women's rights when your child killing state makes Muslim women give birth at checkpoints for fun (documented by human rights groups), and shoots their children on the way back to school (also documented).
The issue of women's
Submitted by Q on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 10:39pm.The issue of women's responsibility not to incite men to violate their bodies is a fascinating debate. Shaan suggests that there is a rationale to it as attractive women are used in adverts to influence people. However if he analysed advertising featuring attractive women he woule realise that most of it is directed at women, promoting the idea that if women buy the product they can obtain the same attractiveness.
At the root of it lies the issue of personal responsibility for ones own conduct. If we legitimise the concept that women have a primary responsibility not to incite men with their beauty and apparent availability, what is missing is men's primary responsibility to control themselves. Human males are not beasts of the field uncontrollably subject to every hormonal impulse. They are sentient beings capable of controlling themselves and recognising that regardless of the degree of physical attractiveness, degree of clothing and implied availability of any given woman that they as men do not have right to violate their woman's body. If we believe that men are not capable of being held responsible for their actions, and it is only Muslims that appear to suggest this. Then is is not reasonable that those men should be prevented from engaging with the rest of society that is capable of taking responsibility for themselves?
Q off on a tangent once again
Submitted by icbm on Tue, 02/02/2010 - 11:46pm.Q - is it your own stupidity or the dictates from the Zionist propaganda team that you go wildly off topic once again.
Well, lets continue with your wayward journey this time... now here's a viewpoint from one of Israel's esteemed Rabbis.
Rabbi Eliahu Leon Levi of B'nei Brak, wrote that an increasing spiritual decline in Israel, highlighted by the immodest dress of women on the streets of the Holy Land, has directly contributed to the rocket attacks on Israeli cities - heres the actual quote:
'It is painful to see how the precious daughters and women of Israel have so terribly fallen from the moral path of the Torah, and how they so immodestly, arrogantly, and disdainfully parade through the streets of our cities.... This situation causes multitudes of Jewish youth and men to fall from their holiness, G-d forbid, and because of this, the nations of the world, the offspring of Amalek, Balak and Bilaam, take revenge on the children of the Holy One Blessed Be He.'
So there you have it, the REAL reason for the rocket attacks on Israel...Israeli women in miniskirts.
tut tut...and all this time you zionists were stealthily laying the blame on the Palestinians. So now stop the murdering and maiming of the innocents in Gaza, listen to your rabbis and tell your women to cover up!
Oh, and Q I still think you belong in the monkey enclosure
Dmoloney, im just taking
Submitted by Dmoloney on Wed, 03/02/2010 - 12:13am.Dmoloney, im just taking issue with the fact that you back a state that kills children, is racist, and even steals their organs and sells it on the black market.
Im not too sure why your associating me with israel all of a sudden, as i have stated before i find that the issue is complex but overall i see the israelis at the current moment as the main obstacle to peace due to their settlements and overall that i hope both sides can learn to live together peacefully
I also find is laughable that you are now the champion of women's rights when your child killing state makes Muslim women give birth at checkpoints for fun (documented by human rights groups), and shoots their children on the way back to school (also documented).
Again you said "your child killing state", i am not israeli and have have never been to israel, i also have never claimed to have any special love or connection with the israel anymore than i have with the palestinians
My comment in this thread merely dealt with the fact that i think that it is wrong for this site to have an article about this person without mentioning his disgraceful comments and attitudes
Why can't all scholars be
Submitted by Q on Wed, 03/02/2010 - 9:13am.Why can't all scholars be like Qadarwi, and "icbm" provides us with Rabbi Eliahu Leon Levi of B'nei Brak as an example of a Jew echoing the sentiments of Qadarwi. Really???
Rabbi Eliahu Leon Levi of B'nei Brak is in fact a religiously inspired fascist who foretells the apocalytic war between the Jews and the non-Jews in Eretz Israel wherein the Jews will, provided they abide by the Torah, bring down upon the heads of their enemies (Palestinians & other Arabs) total destruction eradicating them from the face of the earth.
Fortunately for the Palestinians and other neighbouring Arabs Israeli women continue to wear skimpy clothing, decline genocide and their impact upon Jewish men means that the IDF's destructive capaicity is severely reduced.
I have to thank icbm, I had never before understood the power of the mini skirt and the push-up bra as weapons in the arsenal of Palestinian nationalism and anti-Zionism. And we all should be thankful for this rabbi with his insight into the Jewish psyche for had it not been for the immorality of Jewish women we could add a couple of zeros onto the end of any and all of the statistics for Palestinian casualties.
Actually both Qardarwi and Levi are sectarian fanatics who want to impose their views on others and want to impose sectarian hegemony, and yet hide behind a superficial image of the harmless scholar.
DBoloney always finds it
Submitted by Shaan on Wed, 03/02/2010 - 10:46am.DBoloney always finds it complicated when muslims are being killed and maimed in their millions but when it comes to other he is clear cut, Saddam was a genocidal maniac was evil, he was this or that.
As john pilger stated in documentary it is rather odd we know about all the evil people in the world but some how we never know about our own evil people.
that is probably because of whitewashed history written by the victors where they can kill and maim millions it was for their own good.
that is probably because of
Submitted by Dmoloney on Thu, 04/02/2010 - 3:59pm.that is probably because of whitewashed history written by the victors where they can kill and maim millions it was for their own good.
Nonesense, the allies clearly won world war two yet because we have much a free system we can observe that the allies themselves commited large war crimes such as the bombings of german and japanese cities which were intended to kill large numbers of civilians
So how many allied war
Submitted by Shaan on Thu, 04/02/2010 - 4:28pm.So how many allied war criminals were hanged or imprisoned for life then,.would you care to tell us as from what i know bomber Harris is lauded as a war hero.
Tony the blood thirsty Bliar is arrogant enough to say he would do it again.
The one who massacred hundreds of unarmed civilians men-women and children in cold blood in Amritsar was awarded thousands of pounds,care to tell us how may of these top war criminals were hanged or banged up.
So how many allied war
Submitted by Dmoloney on Thu, 04/02/2010 - 4:43pm.So how many allied war criminals were hanged or imprisoned for life then,.would you care to tell us as from what i know bomber Harris is lauded as a war hero.
None were, however thanks to the openess of our history historians can now freely reveil or give their opinions that war crimes took place, such as ac grayling in his excellent book amoung the dead cities.
Thats nice i wonder why the
Submitted by Shaan on Thu, 04/02/2010 - 5:37pm.Thats nice i wonder why the Germans never thought of such a wonderful system like the allies ,kill as many people as you want then afterwards have historians wrote books and say oh look he was a naughty boy he killed and maimed millions but hey that's in the past.
So once again you have proven my contention that migfht is right ,the victors whitewash their version of history ,the Nazis were evil and bad so hanged them, Saddam hussian was evil and bad so we hanged him, Bush and blair are war criminals but we will have some inquires to see how next time we do not end up killing and maiming millions.
what a nice racket ,what goes around comes around and i hope the future generations are ready for what comes around.
I see that you are not
Submitted by Dmoloney on Thu, 04/02/2010 - 7:54pm.I see that you are not disputing that your original arguement was disproven
So once again you have proven my contention that migfht is right ,the victors whitewash their version of history
This is clearly disproven by the fact that they are lots of books making claims that the allies commited war crimes, just like the one i mentioned above
the Nazis were evil and bad so hanged them, Saddam hussian was evil and bad so we hanged him, Bush and blair are war criminals but we will have some inquires to see how next time we do not end up killing and maiming millions.
Saddam and the nazis delibertly set out to kill excess people, thats why they were executed, bush and blair did not.
And again stop pretending to care about muslims in other countries, youve previously reveiled that you do not by the way you want the afghans to suffer excess deaths and by the way you made excuses for saddams genocide of the northern iraqis
i hope the future generations are ready for what comes around.
Nasty petty threats from someone who gets their information from banners, how sad.
DBoloney which argument would
Submitted by Shaan on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 10:53am.DBoloney which argument would that be, the one where john pilger said we know about all the evil people in thew world but we never knwo about out own evil people, if that is the one then go down to nay high street and ask people about bomber Harris and the ones who know about him wil call him a war hero, no one will call him a war criminal.
So bush and Blair set out on premeditated invasion in their mind,to attack a nation that did not attack them ,they thought by using bombs-missiles-bullets WMDs they were blowing kisses and firing roses.
your hatred for humanity reeks from every sentence ,when you attempt to playdown and justify the crimes of these war criminals and mass murderers.
As for what goes around comes around is a british saying ,if you don't like what is going to come around then do not go around doing it, it is no threat but a reality,further when the chickens come home to roost then we shall talk about whether 1 million dead was excess or whether 500,000 dead would have been ok.
DBoloney which argument would
Submitted by Dmoloney on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 2:21pm.DBoloney which argument would that be,
The one where you said history was whitewashed which it clearly was not due to the fact that we are aware of the crimes of the allies
when you attempt to playdown and justify the crimes of these war criminals and mass murderers.
Ive never down-played it, i just quite accuratly pointed out that they thought that more lives would be overall saved due to the intervention, they did not set out and delibertly plan for the iraqi nation to suffer excess deaths, intention is an important factor in deciding whether or not someone gets the death penalty, they did not intend to cause excess deaths, they did however bring this about so they should be imprisoned
As for what goes around comes around is a british saying ,if you don't like what is going to come around then do not go around doing it,
Again more silly little threats from a little man who gets his information from banners
further when the chickens come home to roost
I imagine that is true, the innocent muslims whose excess deaths you support will indeed be angry at people such as yourself who supported their killers such as saddam and the taliban
we shall talk about whether 1 million dead was excess or whether 500,000 dead would have been ok.
All excess deaths are wrong sham im shocked that you do not know that
DBoloney history is white
Submitted by Shaan on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 4:29pm.DBoloney history is white washed by the victors ,i was taught in school all about the evil nazis and the evil soviets ,but i was never taught about the evils of the british war criminals , in fact in school i was never once taught that were british war criminals.
also i challenged you to go down any high street and ask about bomber Harris and the people who know him wil call him a war hero,
my comment is to the point and valid.
Bush and blair attacked a nation which had no attacked them with WMDs,using every conceivable weapons,they were so naive little babies they thought when we attack all the weapons designed to kill people will blow kisses and fire roses.they Carried out the supreme war rime a war of aggression killing and maiming millions.
as for what goes around comes around is not a threat its reality ,that's why it was coined in the first place, if you cannot ake it do not give it.
All excess deaths are wrong so how many you think is OK to kill in your depraved mentality.
DBoloney history is white
Submitted by Dmoloney on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 5:10pm.DBoloney history is white washed by the victors ,i was taught in school all about the evil nazis and the evil soviets ,but i was never taught about the evils of the british war criminals , in fact in school i was never once taught that were british war criminals.
Again history was not white-washed by the victors, theres many books that are freely available in libarys which discuss allied war crimes.
It appears that your education stopped after school
also i challenged you to go down any high street and ask about bomber Harris and the people who know him wil call him a war hero,
I just did, they all called him a miserable british bastard
Carried out the supreme war rime
Whats a war rime?
if you cannot ake it do not give it.
Unlike you i have never given it and unlike you i do not need to fear what is going to come around
All excess deaths are wrong so how many you think is OK to kill in your depraved mentality.
I think it is ok to take part in an action which will overall save lives, most moral people do too
DBoloney thank you for once
Submitted by Shaan on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 5:50pm.DBoloney thank you for once more showing up your deceit ,you walked down the high street and people called him a british bastard,so why would a british person call bomber Harris a British bastard, if you had walked down that highstreet more than half the people woud not know who you were talking about and no one world call him call him a british bastard.
so why are we taught about Nazi war criminals in school and not british ,since we are in britain we should be taught about own crimes before lecturing others.
so lets use your moral compass ,as in the Congo to date millions have been killed in the last 10 years or more, so we can invade the country killing millions of people then in10 years say ,well look every year more people are alive then they woud have been if we had not invaded.
Btw when people lose the argument they start acting childish ,like what is a supreme war rime.
so why would a british person
Submitted by Dmoloney on Fri, 05/02/2010 - 6:13pm.so why would a british person call bomber Harris a British bastard,
Because the person wasnt british, i dont live in england remember.
so why are we taught about Nazi war criminals in school and not british ,since we are in britain we should be taught about own crimes before lecturing others.
The crimes committed by the nazis were on such a huge scale that they had to be made a priority, the allied war crimes were minor in comparison.
so lets use your moral compass ,as in the Congo to date millions have been killed in the last 10 years or more, so we can invade the country killing millions of people then in10 years say ,well look every year more people are alive then they woud have been if we had not invaded.
Due to your poor grammer im not too sure what you are getting at.
Btw when people lose the argument they start acting childish ,like what is a supreme war rime.
The argument is usually lost when one side seems incapable of speaking or spelling correctly
DBOloney if you are not
Submitted by Shaan on Sat, 06/02/2010 - 11:03am.DBOloney if you are not England then why not state as i do not live in England i cannot vouch for what people in the high street will say.
so if someone kills one person its ok he can go around lecturing someone who has killed 3, both are murderers according to law .
so if British schools can teach about the Nazis as mass murderers then we should be taught about British mass murderers, in schools all you are taught is about foreign war criminals we are never taught about our own war criminal,why because we want our own people to think we are the best we never commit war crimes, its called brainwashing washing.
since the example i showed is what you have use to justify the deaths of people in Afghan i gave you a example of your own logic, that fact that you cannot understand it hows that your logic is twisted.
As for when i enter a spelling competition i shall take more care.
The reality is occupiers and mass murderers never want to talk about their own crimes but lecture others ,its called hypocrisy, the mos telling example was when britain attacked Germany claiming they were fighting for freedom of the occupied nations when they themselves were occupying more than a dozen nations themselves.
I see that you have backed
Submitted by Dmoloney on Tue, 09/02/2010 - 3:32pm.I see that you have backed down from your original assertion that history is white-washed due to the fact that their is a large amount of evidence freely available to show what actually happened
since the example i showed is what you have use to justify the deaths of people in Afghan i gave you a example of your own logic, that fact that you cannot understand it hows that your logic is twisted.
Theres nothing wrong with my logic, it is your grammer which is at fault here.
Ill break it down simply for you shan, they are two choices, one which will caused a large amount of deaths, and one which will cause few deaths and overall save lives, which one do you take, the second one of course, but you seem to hate the afghan people that you want the first option.
The logic isnt that complex, even you used it for iraq, but your not bright enough to see it