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MPACUK finds it shocking that the walkout by delegates from at least 30 countries happened within minutes of the speech starting. Parvez Sharma, a speaker at the conference, blogs the following:
Readers have left 39 comments.
wendymann:
good speech by ahmedinejad which was well received by the majority of the worlds diplomats, it appears the only people squealing were the white arrogant europeans who want to impose their agenda rather than have a democratic and freedom of expression in action .. and who of course have the blood of 6 million jews on their hands and conscience it would appear.
i mean that can only be the reason why the europeans/usa find it so hard to condemn israels atrocities and crimes against humanity as documented elsewhere including the UN.
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2009-04-21 00:02:41
Mazhar:
I don’t think President Ahmadinejad gave a very sensible speech in Geneva. Israel is not the only country in the world where there is institutionalised racism. I don’t think it was right for him to put his focus on Zionism at this particular conference. The president’s characteristically hard-line language has led the people of Iran to be increasingly unimpressed by their leader (to put it lightly.) I think with good reason.
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2009-04-21 08:22:03
Andromeda:
May I suggest you ring up the Chinese Embassy for their views on the matter. After all, they are now the world's wealthiest and most powerful country, while the West proceeds to bankrupt itself and shooting itself in the head.
My view is that China is pro-Iran and you should obtain the Chinese government's views on this matter. After all, China is the world's most powerful country and is guiltless of imposing Israel on the Palestinians. The Russians have had a well-established policy of sending THEIR Jews to Israel, in case you are wondering. Mazhar will have heard by now that Ahmadinejad returned to Iran to rapturous applause. We must remember that there are still people left who are prepared to say what they believe in, which also happens to be true. Palestine was a Western imposition, without consultation. The Palestinains were given as much consultation as you would give to the colony of rats and cockcroaches in the house you have just bought. US politicians tend to have their careers ruined if they do not kowtow to AIPAC. Don't you remember Obama promising them that he would do "anything", "anything", he repeated, "to defend Israel"? Read ARABS AND ISRAEL by Ron David and you will KNOW.
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2009-04-21 08:49:53
Khaliq:
good speech by ahmedinejad which was well received by the majority of the worlds diplomats, it appears the only people squealing were the white arrogant europeans who want to impose their agenda rather than have a democratic and freedom of expression in action .. and who of course have the blood of 6 million jews on their hands and conscience it would appear. — wendymannThis was an anti-racism event. Whether or not the people who walked out were justified, it sounds like prejudicial language to me to refer to them as “white arrogant europeans”. And I don’t see what relevance the Holocaust has here. Nazi Germany exterminated 6 million Jews during the war. Do all Europeans alive today now eternally have the blood of those killed “on their hands”?
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2009-04-21 09:05:47
Andromeda:
good speech by ahmedinejad which was well received by the majority of the worlds diplomats, it appears the only people squealing were the white arrogant europeans who want to impose their agenda rather than have a democratic and freedom of expression in action .. and who of course have the blood of 6 million jews on their hands and conscience it would appear. — KhaliqThis was an anti-racism event. Whether or not the people who walked out were justified, it sounds like prejudicial language to me to refer to them as “white arrogant europeans”. And I don’t see what relevance the Holocaust has here. Nazi Germany exterminated 6 million Jews during the war. Do all Europeans alive today now eternally have the blood of those killed “on their hands”? Most white Europeans Christians feel a historical guilt for their anti-Semitism, so they are easily intimidated by Jews. As for the figure of 6 million, you may know the numbers killed are disputed by David Irving and Bishop Richard Robinson. 6 million is apparently a magic number of sacrifice which is a sign that the Jews can return to Israel after being cast out by the Romans all those centuries ago. That is why the Zionists get very upset if you suggest that fewer than that number were killed. It is one of the definitions of Holocaust Denial, ie that you cannot claim that fewer Jews had been killed. If anyone is interested in the Intentionalist and Functionalist debate which concerns the issue of Holocaust Denial, they should visit the Chamber of Debate at www.1party4all.co.uk.
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2009-04-21 09:28:48
Kiwi:
It would have been nice if Ahmedinijan had mentioned the other racist divisions in places like Darfur,Sri Lanka, Tibet(oops) Burma etc. before he mentioned the M.E. situation. Then there could have been a good discussion about human rights all over the world as well as the M.E. situation. Noticably it was all the countries with the worst racist and human rights issues who stayed to applaud him.
But I expect he had his own agenda (like elections in Iran soon) so the rest of the suffering people in the world don't really matter. What could have been a constructive and intelligent debate on the world's ills ended up as a farce. What a waste of such an opportunity.
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2009-04-21 09:32:05
Come on, MPACUK!:
Much as I am saddened by the events at the racism conference, the UN all but engineered a walkout by giving a platform to holocaust denier Ahmadinejad. MPACUK is here to promote social justice, not to give legitimacy to the likes of President Ahmadinejad or act as a recruiting platform to fruitcakes like Andromeda. You risk shooting yourselves in the foot (yet again). Be courageous, MPACUK, yes - but holocaust denial is almost always an adjunct to Judeaphobic racism. It's ignorant, it's vile, and it should be condemned unequivocally by all.
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2009-04-21 09:43:03
Imran Karim:
More people stayed and applauded the Iranian president.
I really dont understand what was wrong with what he said - he was 100% factual. Maybe the truth hurts for the lying, stealing, murdering Zionists and their bribed / blackmailed stooges in European governments.
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2009-04-21 10:30:51
Imran Karim:
By the way those "UN workers" booing and hissing were not UN workers, they were all junior terrorists from the zionist jewish students unions - a blog on the zionist Harrys Place website admits that they conned their way into the main conference hall.
The walkout was not as dramatic as it looked. If you think that about 10-15 delegates represent one country, so if 40-50 people walked out, thats only 6 countries. If 100 people walked out, thats only 8-10 countries. There are over 192 countries in the UN. Most notably, the host Switzerland refused to bow to zionist pressure and stood firm, its leader even meeting with the Iranian president. The zionists resorted to recalling their 'ambassador' to Switzerland - so they have even fewer friends in the world now.
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2009-04-21 10:39:28
RSD:
As Denis MacShane pointed out on French TV yesterday, Iran is one of the most racist countries on earth and is guilty of systemic racism against Iranian Arabs. Iran's legal system discriminates against non-Muslims and women. This is a situation not disputed by HRW, Amnesty Int'l and the UN.
President Ahmedinejad is fully aware of this situation and does nothing to end it. This situation demonstrates clear how hollow his statements in opposition racism are. President Ahmedinejad used this conference as a platform to appeal to the basest instincts in his own regional constituency, and a political tendency to adopt racism material in the furtherance of political objectives. From the TV images of the conference there appeared to be no ethinic uniformity amongst those delegates protesting Ahmedinjead's statements. Certainly many non-white delegates were applauding the actions of those delegates that walked out. MPACUK shows itself to be either naive or complicit in racism by its failure to condemn the Iranian president. Israel Forever!
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2009-04-21 10:55:20
Shafiq:
It would have been nice if Ahmedinijan had mentioned the other racist divisions in places like Darfur,Sri Lanka, Tibet(oops) Burma etc. before he mentioned the M.E. situation. Then there could have been a good discussion about human rights all over the world as well as the M.E. situation. Noticably it was all the countries with the worst racist and human rights issues who stayed to applaud him. — KiwiBut I expect he had his own agenda (like elections in Iran soon) so the rest of the suffering people in the world don't really matter. What could have been a constructive and intelligent debate on the world's ills ended up as a farce. What a waste of such an opportunity. I agree. What Ahmedinajad said was true, but it sounded hypocritical coming from a person whose country is guilty of systemic racism and human rights abuses
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2009-04-21 12:04:42
Shan:
RSD you have some cheek, you being a avid racist hater of arabs, shedding tears for iranian arabs is a pathetic joke.
The fact is israel is a racist occupational state,even a simpleton knows this reality.
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2009-04-21 12:46:21
Akh The Angry Academic Activist:
YES - Israel Is A Racist Country - and what he said is and was true, on all counts.
The fact that the 'Western representatives' chose not to challenge or debate the issues, proves conclusively that the Iranian president was obviously correct in his allegations. The cowards that walked out of that meeting need to be found and interviewed on international media; so that the world can judge for themselves just how many count themselves above the law and beyond all the norms required to live in the international community of nations. The accident of birth can never be the sole deciding factor for anyone being automatically placed above all other people on this planet: The fact that Israel was established by a totally racist ideology needs to be openly and fully discussed in a globally accessible forum for all to hear an comment on. The fact that the US, Israel and their partners in this global grab for racist superiority over the rest of the world is at the core of all the various bloodbaths that the Middle-East is now trying to live through. The only thing that is absolutely clear is that these problems cannot have a military solution: therefore we must meet with everyone that lives in these countries and find a way to settle this question diplomatically, once and for all. Sixty years of this hell-on-earth, is far too long, it must end before another year passes.
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2009-04-21 12:54:52
harvela:
Wendy Mann
Is this the same white arrogant Europeans which together with the USA toppled the Serbian regieme which had been responsible for the massacre of tens of thousands of Kosovan Muslims whilst the Ummah remained silent and ineffectual to the suffering and despair of their own brothers and sisters.
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2009-04-21 18:02:03
wendymann:
This was an anti-racism event. Whether or not the people who walked out were justified, it sounds like prejudicial language to me to refer to them as “white arrogant europeans”. And I don’t see what relevance the Holocaust has here. Nazi Germany exterminated 6 million Jews during the war. Do all Europeans alive today now eternally have the blood of those killed “on their hands”? — Khaliqthe fact is that it was the white arrogant europeans who walked out whilst the rest of the world laughed at their hypocrisy and double standards. the holocaust and european anti semitism plays a big role in the way israel is not condemned for its war crimes and abuse of palestinians.
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2009-04-21 18:03:30
wendymann:
Much as I am saddened by the events at the racism conference, the UN all but engineered a walkout by giving a platform to holocaust denier Ahmadinejad. MPACUK is here to promote social justice, not to give legitimacy to the likes of President Ahmadinejad or act as a recruiting platform to fruitcakes like Andromeda. You risk shooting yourselves in the foot (yet again). Be courageous, MPACUK, yes - but holocaust denial is almost always an adjunct to Judeaphobic racism. It's ignorant, it's vile, and it should be condemned unequivocally by all. — Come on, MPACUK!ahemdinejad has not denied the holocaust or that many jewish people were killed - he has questioned the authority of the official claims that one is not allowed to query.
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2009-04-21 18:05:03
wendymann:
As Denis MacShane pointed out — RSDof course you do know that he is a pro zionist israel advocate who would deny palestinian justice -what else do you expect denise to say.
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2009-04-21 18:07:41
Harvela:
Andromeda
Just checked out your website and your deal with the BNP. Nice one mate! Now that summers almost here its time you gave that white sheet a good airing and take the ol wizard hat out the box. There be crosses burning in Blackpool tonight!
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2009-04-21 18:24:01
Templar:
shan,the people of iran are persian not arab,but being clever,you would know that!they speak farsi,not ****ing arabic.bit of a clue there mate.
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2009-04-21 19:27:03
Templar:
wendyman,get a life and some brains!
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2009-04-21 19:28:35
Anti racist:
Well aren't we all grown up about this.... let's remember the holocaust of the last century but sod the palestininans that are the victims of genocide in the 21st century and if we don't like the truth then let us be diplomatic and walk out and then plan more illegal wars to kill muslims.
This amajindad bloke is the only one that had the balls to tell the truth. shame on the deniers of genocide...shame on the deniers of racism and racist states. Notice how it was the racist states with their own histories of racist and facist organisations that walked out.... all the white western countries that have benfitted over the years from their racism which they have inflicted all over the world shame, shame shame. You would have thought that they would have learnt to recognise the evil that racism is by now, but it seems to depend on who the victims are, and if they are muslim then let's turn the other cheek.
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2009-04-21 20:34:37
Mitsubishi:
RESPECT to president Mahmood Ahmadinejad
free speech Mitsubishi
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2009-04-21 20:39:22
9 Innocent Muslims For Deportati:
What happened at the UN is exactly what racists do when their own lies, fraud and racism are exposed. The latest news is that 9 Pakistani students ( out of the 12 arrested) have been released. The UK government are seeking to deport them before the hysteria and hype created around the alleged 'terror plot' is exposed ( along with the dramatic resignation by Bob Quick). This proves that the arrest was only a decoy by Gordon Brown to divert attention from his own incompetence and an opportunity by paedos like Phil Woolas to rant and rave against Pakistan. The Home Secretary Jacqui Smith also thinks she can use more tax-payer money to pay for pornography if she allows the Zionist media to drool over deporting these students. We should lobby to prevent the Zionazi government from deporting these students to hide its own embarassment.
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2009-04-21 22:09:07
wendymann:
wendyman,get a life and some brains! — Templarand be like you .. i suppose .. for goodness sakes.
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2009-04-21 23:02:41
Yakoub:
"...ahemdinejad has not denied the holocaust or that many jewish people were killed - he has questioned the authority of the official claims that one is not allowed to query..."
What official line is that? There is not one SHRED of evidence to justify such a supposed challenge! Ahemdinejad organised a conference about holocaust denial attended by the usual gaggle of seedy racist holocaust deniers. What would you say if someone organised a conference on whether Muslims should be deported from the UK, invited Nick Griffen, and then they said they were not Islamophobic, merely questioning received orthodoxies? You say that conference organiser was a disingenuous bigot! QED.
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2009-04-22 06:44:39
Shan:
Templar big hint and clue for you matey,check RSDs comment again and then check my response, you will see who needs to correct their understanding.
BTW i love it when racists lecture others on the evils of being racist.
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2009-04-22 11:22:25
Q:
Dear Friends, once more the arch manipulator and coward Ahmedinejad has achieved a victory at our expense. He and his accolytes have by questionning the undeniable historical event called the "Holocaust" have created a platform for racists and fascists to expound and promote their hatreds. He chose this tactic because he knew that it would cause offence and create polarisation between nations and communities. This deepened divisions at a time when we in the world need a coming together of minds and hearts.
He and his allies are also cowards. Although he talks over eradicating the Zionist entity and provides funds and equipment for forces in Lebanon and Palestine, he resolutely avoids engaging Iranian forces in direct conflict with the Zionists. He is like the schoolboy who urges others to fight, and be hurt, while offering to hold the fighters coats. These actions create for Ahmedinejad the semblance of promoting the interests of Islam and the Palestinians, while never taking a risk. He thereby secures an unearned status amongst Muslims. We need to look carefully at this man and his followers, and ask ourselves does he speak for us and on what basis has he earned this?
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2009-04-22 11:29:38
Shan:
Q:If you have the right to deny gods existence then, how can you say no one has a right to question the holocaust.
As for ahmadinejad and iran i agree they are working with america when it comes to the occupation of iraq and afghan.
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2009-04-22 15:06:01
Naseby:
Q:If you have the right to deny gods existence then, how can you say no one has a right to question the holocaust. — ShanThat's what you call a 'non-sequitur'.
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2009-04-22 16:26:03
Liliana Tarulli:
Well aren't we all grown up about this.... let's remember the holocaust of the last century but sod the palestininans that are the victims of genocide in the 21st century and if we don't like the truth then let us be diplomatic and walk out and then plan more illegal wars to kill muslims. — Anti racistThis amajindad bloke is the only one that had the balls to tell the truth. shame on the deniers of genocide...shame on the deniers of racism and racist states. Notice how it was the racist states with their own histories of racist and facist organisations that walked out.... all the white western countries that have benfitted over the years from their racism which they have inflicted all over the world shame, shame shame. You would have thought that they would have learnt to recognise the evil that racism is by now, but it seems to depend on who the victims are, and if they are muslim then let's turn the other cheek. I could not agree more. The President of Iran is the only leader than spoke the truth about Israel which is 100%factual. The Muslim Ummah must be united against Zionism and stop bickering at one another instead, because while we talk, the genocide in Palestine continues unfortunately. May Allah make it easy and at the end Islam will win!
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2009-04-22 17:12:03
Michael J:
It seems to me that, the walkout of some European diplomats was pre-planned - but their actions and those of the hecklers seems to have back fired!
Having read Ahmedinajad's entire speech - all I can say is YES Israel is racist & YES the truth hurts! Entire speech: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0904/S00318.htm
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2009-04-22 22:46:54
Q:
If in pursuit of an understanding of the universe you inhabit you cannot comprehend the divine entity as described in any of the holy texts, then I believe that for yourself you can deny Gods existance. Proving God is very hard indeed and I for one do not understand the nature or substance of God. God chose to express himself to many pepopel in different ways, and I am loath to claim that I know which is the perfect and true expression. I believe that which I believe in Islam is the truth, but it is belief not fact based knowledge.
However I can and do understand and accept that between 1939 and 1945 in the fog of war the Nazis and their allies perpetrated one of the most dreadful crimes in the history of mankind against Jews, Gypsies and others. But their primary focus was upon the Jews. There is plenty of proof that the Holocaust occurred and both perpetrators an victims acknowledge it. President Ahmedinejad fosters Holocaust Denial as a tool in his war against Zionists. But in doing so he alientates Jews who might otherwise be substanital voices against Zionist excesses and for a pro-Palestinian resolution. But this does not matter to the Iranian president as he cares no more about the Palestinians than he cares about Jewish sensibilities. He wants a polarised world where Muslims cluster to his extreme position.
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2009-04-22 23:18:44
riz:
What some of your commentators ignore is that the state of Israel is the only one known to be constitutionally racist allowing for instance any Jew an automatic right of return regardless of their connection with the land. This right is solely based what on the political Zionists (who are actually colonialists) that God promised this land to the children of Israel. It is this basic premise upon which the state of Israel is founded that makes it a racist entity. There is one easy & straightforward solution if Israel wants to prove its non-racist nature & that is to voluntarily offer all Palestinian refugees a right to return to their original homes or offer compensation & offer them full citizenship of the Israeli state. Until that happens the state of Israel is no different to the former apartheid state of South Africa. It was brave & appropriate of Ahmedinedjad to raise the issues & hypocritical of the European delegates who are good at lecturing the Muslims on their right to free speech when they want to make
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2009-04-22 23:41:31
Younus S:
What more do the moderate Muslim leaders wish to see or witness to prove conculsively that most western countries are in total support with Israel and its racist policies. The only solution is total and unequivocal unity amongst all Muslim nations. You will then only see walk-in's and not walk-outs!! Israel, the west... are having a grand time with their succesful divide n rule policy.
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2009-04-23 09:24:02
Shan:
Q:Ahmadinejad only became president several years ago,nothing has stopped the israels from their daily occupation and oppression of palestians in the last 60 years,Ahmadinejads statements will not make any diffrence to the occupiers.
The diffrence of the presidents remarks will be felt by the world, the people of the world are seeing israels racist ideals the first time on mainstream media.
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2009-04-23 10:30:00
Q:
Shan, the fact that the Zionist entity allegedly commits war crimes etc is not justification in fostering an environment where Misojudaic / Antisemitic attitudes are grow or that Jewish people are subject to offensive allegations. Such actions merely strengthen the hand of the Zionists.
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2009-04-23 14:34:47
Shan:
Q: the zionist entity allegedly commits war crimes if after 60 continous years it is alleged then surely the 6 million killed can be alleged as well.
If you can term the factual occupation-murder-torture-bombings-seiges as alleged then the holocaust can be questioned even more as a historical issue.
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2009-04-23 17:46:12
Ariel Sharon (no relation):
Judaism is a great and sacred religion and culture
Zionazism is a racist and political ideology
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2009-04-23 18:24:50
Michael J:
Interesting comments - I personally find it ironic that those spinless diplomats who carried out the pre-planned stunt of "walking out" when Ahmedinajad spoke would have gladly like lapdogs shaken the hand of the likes of the former Israeli leader Olmert who was forced to stand down on corruption charges & who oversaw the terror bombing of Gaza (using phosphorous bombs and flechets) killing of over 300 children without apology, remorse or compensation.
I think the religion of Europe is no longer "Christianity" but is the blind, deluded, unquestioning, subservience of Israeli dogma - regardless of they do. I name this new religion of Europe "Holocaustianity". Whilst you can question the divinity of Jesus, Moses or Mohammed, the resurrection - even the existence of God - you cannot question Israel or even a single aspect of the "official" Holocaust narration without the threat of being jailed or being accused of being "anti-Semitic" or being forced to recant. Whilst I do not agree with everything that Moslems say and do - I congratulate the likes of Ahmedinajad one of the few political leaders in the world for having the balls to try & stand up and say what many of us ordinary people in Britain also think regarding Israel. I personally believe our country lost the real "war on terror" 60 years ago when Jewish terrorists dressed as Arabs blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem killing British servicemen – an event Israelis (including Netanyahu) celebrate openly even today. Our surrender & withdrawal thereafter left the Palestinians to the mercy of Jewish terror groups such as Irgun and Stern Gang. The rest is sadly history.
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2009-04-23 19:01:26
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