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| Saturday, 16 May 2009 | |
Statement by Tayyib Muqeem on his alleged ‘attack’ on Quilliam Foundation director Maajid Nawaz:May Allah be my witness, along with the two other witnesses with me, and the scores of customers & staff present at the ‘Jamin Java’ cafe in Lahore, Pakistan. None of them are Hizb ut-Tahrir (HT) members, and the media are free to verify the facts from them. I speak from the heart and I speak the truth, being a Northerner from the UK, I’m a frank person and don’t like to mince my words. My name is Tayyib Muqeem, I’m proud to announce that I’m a member of Hizb ut Tahrir and currently live and work in Lahore, Pakistan as an English Language Teacher.
On the 14th May very late at night I was working on my laptop computer
in the Cafe, when somebody who I had never met or spoken to in my life,
namely Maajid Nawaz, approached me unexpectedly. Contrary to his claim,
I was not waiting to attack him. Maajid was in the Cafe with a girl,
and because of what I know of him from the news, his renowned
scaremongering and exaggerations, not to mention his £1 million a year
backing from the British authorities and likely collusion with British
intelligence; I did not want to entertain a conversation with him and
didn’t want to reply to his greetings. I believed his greetings were a
cynical, insincere and an opportunist attempt to trap me into some sort
of debate that he would later use for his own ends. I knew very well
that Maajid Nawaz was touring Pakistani universities on a Government
funded mission to continue a malicious campaign against Islam and to
spread confusion amongst Muslim students, being an educationist I was
infuriated, but helpless nevertheless. Readers have left 27 comments.
Corrected Witness Statement::
My name is MI-5 agent Hizbi Lota and the man I had the mock fight with agent Quilliam Lota (referred to henceforth as QL). I have been posted in Lahore for a while amd was instructed to meet QL in Lahore in private but later the MI-5 told me that ( being a Northerner of course!) I should be “proud to announce” the details of our meeting of 14th May 09. QL was accompanied by a female operative and the MI-5 had given me a complete itinerary for QL. Contrary to QL I cannot reveal my links with MI-5 so I feel helpless sometimes. According to the racist ethos and illiterate mental level of MI-5 all Arabs as the same whether they are the Alawite Shia of Syria or the Shafiite Sunnis of Iraq. During our meeting QL talked to me “three times”. The feminine ( and hilariously inappropriate by Pakistani standards) narrative of the 'British pub' style fight I have given is unheard of in Lollywood because since the Russians invaded Afghanistan all people do in Pakistan is shoot dead anyone with whom they have a disagreement. A noun, a verb and 9/11 but I do not think I can 'satisfy' Ms Sabeeha. Moreover, I will once again remind Muslims that if they oppose Geert Wildres they will be locked up like Lord Nazir. Political Islam is something I have learnt from MPACUK because the doctrine MI-5 have given to Hizb is to tell Muslims not to vote and to keep dreaming about the Caliphate instead. And if you think I am mental I will seek legal advice and also get the MI-5 to pick you up.
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2009-05-16 23:48:58
Imran Zain:
£1000000 is the price Ed & Maajid are paying for two very hot pits in the Hellfire.
(2)
2009-05-17 00:29:52
Yasin:
I may have a 101 grieviances with HT and their methodological stupidities, but I will take Br Tayyibs account on this one.
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2009-05-17 00:38:48
joshim:
may allah reward you my brother for speaking the truth against these quilliam munaafiqs. allah is your witness. the day will come when this govt funded project of ed and maajid will come to an end. they will be disgraced here in the dunya and the akhira for their blatant betrayal of allah and his messanger
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2009-05-17 01:11:45
joshim:
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNT FROM OWNER OF CAFE
My name is Shazad Baig, I own Jammin Jave Coffee Chain in Lahore, I was present on the night of the 14th May when the incident took place between Maajid Nawaz and Tayyib Muqeem. I can say with certainty that Mr. Muqeem was sitting alone doing some work on his laptop with his coffee at the table in the dining area. Maajid Nawaaz was sitting in the patio area. Maajid Nawaz got up and approached Mr. Tayyib Muqeem and stood over his table for some time, I could see that Mr. Tayyib Muqeem was clearly troubled and was gesturing the former to leave him alone. I don’t know what discussion took place between them but I saw Mr Nawaz with his hand outstretched for an unusually long period of time, Mr. Muqeem got up out of his seat and it was then that Maajid Nawaz went face to face with him. At this Tayyib Muqeem attempted to push Maajid Nawaz away, but unfortunately Mr. Nawaz lost balance and fell onto the settee beside him. Tayyib Muqeem is one of my regular customers and I was shocked to see the distorted press release about him on the Quilliam Foundation Website the next day. baig.shahzad@gmail.com
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2009-05-17 01:33:51
JOSHIM:
ANOTHER EYE WITNESS STATEMENT FROM BRIT-PAKISTANI
My name is Iftikhar, I am a British National doing business in Pakistan. I also frequent Jammin Java Cafe, as it is one of my favourite haunts. About the night in question I saw the gentleman, Mr. Nawaz approach the table of Mr Muqeem, I was at a distance of about 20 yards and in the outside section of the cafe, whereas the incident took place inside (it is separated by a glass partition). It seemed by Mr Muqeem’s gestures that he was asking Mr Nawaz to go away, As these gestures become more animated, I felt that in the interest of harmony I needed to intervene, so I hurriedly approached Mr Muqeem’s table at which time I clearly heard Mr Muqeem asking Mr Nawaz to go away. However, Mr Nawaz didn’t seem to heed the request. I then saw Mr Muqeem push Mr Nawaz away resulting in Mr Nawaz falling onto the sofa next to him. Mr Muqeem DID NOT PUNCH Mr Nawaz, AS CLAIMED BY THE QUILLIAM FOUNDATION. And by the way, let me make clear that I am NOT a member of Hizb ul Tehrir and have no role in the organisation whatsoever- I am just a neutral onlooker who is defending the honour and reputation of an innocent man, Mr Tayyib Muqeem. ibukhari@gmail.com
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2009-05-17 01:35:34
Ali Abdullah:
This is an individual refutation of the QF 'alert', not an HT one.
Traditional Islamism have managed to get 2 independent witness statements that show that the events described by Tayyib Muqeem are closer to the truth than that of Maajid Nawaz (backed up by QF).
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2009-05-17 03:34:21
Khurram:
Traditional Islamism..lol! those fools!
Who listens to them? They are sworn enemies of Quilliam, of course they are going to say that! Come on! At least quote someone reliable and not Quilliam's declared enemies and Tayyib's friends! I believe Maajid Nawaz on this one, mainly because I have seen the way HT behave. It seems Tayyib is sweating alot over there trying to clear his name, but getting the likes of T.I involved won't help his cause. Witnesses in Pakistan are a 'dime a dozen'. Of course Maajid just walked onto his hand that happened to be stretched out...lol The innocent - non-confrontational - peaceful HT! Try again! For a good explanation of what T.I is about: http://traditionalislamizm.wordpress.com/
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2009-05-17 10:37:12
Wasim:
I find it hard to believe Tayyabs account as well.
I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle of both Maajid and Tayyabs accounts. Both seem to have exaggerated their stories and now trying their best to justify themselves. One HT and one ex-HT....despite their opposing views that have alot in common.
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2009-05-17 11:01:13
Ummah:
Looks like the QF cronies are out and about!!!!
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2009-05-17 14:34:03
Abu Talha:
I don't see what all the fuss is about. HT punched or pushed Maajid and he fell over..wow big deal!
Overall though I support QF over HT purely because HT are against community cohesion and try to rip the social fabric of communities apart in the UK. (It's Haraam to vote & Britain is a land of war etc) At least Quilliam are more sensible and their aims are admirable. There not perfect but give me Quilliam over HT any day.
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2009-05-17 14:42:07
Yunus:
Khurram have an ounce of decency and stop aiding the hypocrites. Majid Nawaz and his crooked and treacherous friends at QF have spun lie after lie since their inaugural launch on a ticket to reform Islam under the guise of fighting extremism, so who can you give their word any credence? Unless you are also a Munafiq???
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2009-05-17 15:25:16
Ibn Adam:
It is amazing how Rashad goes around under different pseudonyms! Flari aka RASHAD ZAMAN ALI and now these two. Oh, of course it is all the supporters out there. For Allah's sake Rashad please use different names.
What I find laughable is this. Tayyab is a liar, the Cafe owner is a liar, and the independent witness who has no political affiliations is a liar. In fact the CAFE OWNER WAS BOUGHT FOR A FEW PENCE YET ACCORDING TO MAAJID THE LIAR HE KICKED TAYYAB OUT!!! Now, imagine this scenario. Tayyab causes trouble that annoys the staff of the Cafe and then they are more then willing to give a witness for this agitator against Maajid ?! Really that is pathetic Rashad!
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2009-05-17 15:53:31
Abid:
brothers wasim and khurram, you don't just have tayyib's account of the events, you also have the accounts of two independent eye witnesses. yet you still choose to deny the truth? if you see the individual eye-witness accounts, these two guys have also given their email addresses so you can verify the truth from them. if you stil are unsure, then do a small thing, if you have any family or friend in lahore, ring them and ask them to go the that restaurant, jamin java, and verify the story. that simple. you might think why should you bother, but doing so is important because it will reveal the evil nature of QF to you, who have twisted the story so much and have almost converted it upside down! how can true muslims do such a thing?
and lastly, yeah you guys might have your own group alligiances, mpac or qf, but you are not talking objectively about ht. they are a constructive and peaceful group, and are a worlds apart from qf. they have nothing in common at all. its a shame if somebody tries to smite ht to advance their own affiliated groups. muslims aren't supposed to do that.
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2009-05-17 16:11:22
ibn adam:
Brothers please do not be fooled. These aliases are the same person! lol! It is Rashad Zaman Ali
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2009-05-17 19:24:36
Ibn Adams:
T.I Lol..How many different names do you go by ?
Ibn Adam Zafar Iqbal Shareef Talha Lol...you guys are pathetic jokers! I know I'm keeping you lot busy : ) Get a life!
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2009-05-17 21:13:28
Ibn Adam (i.e. traditionalislami:
Rashad you are "happy" because we give you a "job"( I still think you are unemployed, where is the proof that you work for CIVITAS? ) And... we are happy because we use you shoddy scholarship and history to expose the QF. Everyone is happy! So what is the problem Rashad ? lol
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2009-05-18 07:50:35
Abu Yunus:
Can an inquiry into the expenses of Quilliam Foundation directors be launched?
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2009-05-18 08:20:50
Commando:
I dont know which ones worse HT or QF?
At least with HT you know what theyre doing wrong...QF seem to take after Tony B Liar
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2009-05-18 09:35:09
Sameer:
British MPs are currently being castigated in the media for an accounting scandal. Why isn't the same being done for their pet lackeys at Quilliam?
What did you REALLY spend 1 million pounds on? British taxpayers have a right to know as they are footing the bill for this nonsense.
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2009-05-18 18:34:57
Yeah.... right, HT:
I find it fascinating that the cafe owner and the HT loony both use gmail accounts - and on inspection of the original mails' headers appear to have sent their mails from the very same IP.
Very odd, that.
(21)
2009-05-19 21:27:17
Imran:
I think as long as Quilliam is countering and exposing extremist ideology and groups like HT then funding them is justifed. Muslims need to admit they have a problem in their communities and not just blame everything on Western Conspiracies.
Quilliam should also counter BNP extremists and not just Islamists. I have no problem with them getting tax payers money.
(22)
2009-05-19 22:06:35
Saajid:
Any chance of getting CCTV footage of this incident?
Thats the only way we will really know who is telling the truth. Both HT's and QF's accounts seem exaggerated.
(23)
2009-05-20 10:26:36
Abdul Rehman:
Majid Nawaz has been consumed by a salary and lifestyle he has never had – all at the expense of the British Tax Payer i.e. me and you.
We are paying for his brand new mini cooper. We are paying for his mortgage payments. We are paying for his 1st/business class flights around the world (£3000 a ticket). We are paying for his stay at 5 – 7 * hotels (upto £2000 a night) We are paying for his office rent. We are paying for all the activities he is setting up to mislead Joe public, like in the case of Tayyib. HT or Not, we the British Tax payer, of whom many are now unemployed, struggle to raise our children on measly benefits and have to fight on a daily basis to secure legitimate hard earned income. Majid Nawaz has never worked hard in his life to earn legitimate income. But he has found his niche. A gap in the ex-islamist market. What he does not realise, clearly, is that once you shake the hand of the devil (British Govt, American administration), he does not let go!
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2009-05-20 10:37:38
Your heard it first:
Sameer, I would suspect strongly that the vast majority of British taxpayers were very grateful that there was an organisation receiving state funds to tackle the morons of HT and their ilk.
Perhaps that is because the vast majority of British taxpayers are not South Asians with enormous chips on their shoulders?
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2009-05-20 10:55:39
Ali:
I find it fascinating that the cafe owner and the HT loony both use gmail accounts - and on inspection of the original mails' headers appear to have sent their mails from the very same IP. — Yeah.... right, HTVery odd, that. Duh, he owns an internet Cafe - like maybe they both used the same internet connection to send the email (seeing that the HT guy frequents that Cafe).
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2009-05-20 11:39:04
Ibn Adam:
@ "yeah...right HT"
i.e. Quilliamites Easy explaination, they are using one UK source to get the information across. They also had gmail accounts so that they can specifically respond to the issue. The email accounts were set up for this reason. Anyway if you are skeptical, I suggest you contact the email address of each of the witnesses. Oh while you are at it why dont you just contact the Cafe itself in Lahore! The contact details are readily available on the internet THE TESTIMONIES ARE GENUINE, dont you worry about that!
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2009-05-20 18:48:05
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Statement by Tayyib Muqeem on his alleged ‘attack’ on Quilliam Foundation director Maajid Nawaz:

