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Or were you talking about 'Andy Choudary'? and his partying days?

"One former friend said: 'I can't keep a straight face when I see "fundamentalist Muslim Anjem Choudary" in the papers attacking the British for drinking or having girlfriends.
'When I knew him, he liked to be called Andy, would often smoke cannabis spliffs all day, and was proud of his ability to down a pint of cider in a couple of seconds.'

Is this the Muslim leader MPACUk is urging us to rally around - so vicioulsy attacked by those pesky Zionists?

Nice photos though of his younger days!
Mwahahahahahah! (lol)

Or was it this story you were referring to :

"Minister beaten after clashing with Muslims on his TV show"

'A Christian minister who has had heated arguments with Muslims on his TV Gospel show has been brutally attacked by three men who ripped off his cross and warned: ‘If you go back to the studio, we’ll break your legs....'

All-in-all not a particularly good news day in the Daily Wail, admittedly.

The Anjem Choudary ("Swilling beer, smoking dope and leering at porn, the other side of hate preacher 'Andy' Choudary") story was my favourite.

cromwell:- Are you Irish?

Oh, and by the way...it's Brits writing and publishing these stories quite independently of any 'Zionist' pressure. I can see that it might be more convenient to think that it is Zionists instigating this....but it is in fact the host community, the non-Muslim majority which writes and publishes these stories...which object to types like Bunglewallah and Choudary.

Inayat is no Muslim leader - and we all know it!

Even his family members think he's Mr Bean! No seriousness, depth, just attacks government. Not a sign of maturity.

MPACUK look silly supporting a lightweight like Inayat.

Top of the morning to you!

I think Irish have a few problems of their own right now. I wouldn't go and criticise others.

Inayat is really divisive, vindictive and ego driven.

He will be dismissed as a violent extremist now - Muslims don't need this crap.

Inayat - step down for the sake of the community. It's the right thing to do. You're on the defensive now - don't take down Muslims with you.

Have some dignity - go! EArly retirement.

You're a liability now.

I'm not Irish. And yes, there seem to be some issues there to resolve...some last bastion of violent intolerance to be stamped out. After 9/11 Sinn Fein realised that terrorism wasn't going to work any more with their Irish-American paymasters; bearded mad-dogs like Gerry Adams had to pretend to be 'moderates' and give up the gun. It seems it might take a bit longer to beat the Andy Choudarys of this world.

What exactly were these 'unsavoury' views? All I find in the article are a set of unproven accusations. He was arrested three months ago, yet the CPS still hasn't brought any charges - seems like a name-smearing campaign to me.

And although MPACUK's rhetoric goes over the top many times, at no time has MPACUK claimed the media is controlled by Jews. The Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday is known for its various Islamophobic and pro-Israeli stories so to put two and two together doesn't require a big leap in logic. The same for the Daily Express, the Sun, and the Daily Telegraph at times. These newspapers make up a large proportion of the Newspaper market, which is why it is safe to assume that much of the media is Zionist.





Anjem Choudhry's pathetic and pretty much everyone in MPACUK recognises him as such. It was well known how much of a hypocrite he is and articles like these just give him more of the media limelight - something which he craves.

That's right, Deen - you peddle your anti-irish racism in the name of Allah.

Not going to waste time commenting on your articles above as at best most of the storeys come from fraudulent source.

They must have done something? BTW it wasn’t the Irish who changed, the stumbling block was the other side refusing to talk, and peace was only achieved when they communicated with each other, which separates human from animals.

It’s very easy to fight the least armed and murder civilian public in Gaza, Millions was spent to exaggerate Muslim being a threat which is no more then any other threat. If the IRA starts then its going to be more dangers. I hope I don’t have to find out how dangers.

Shafiq:

Leaving aside the sometimes scurrilous nature of the tabloids, most of the European centre-right (political parties and newspapers) is broadly pro-Israeli. There are many reasons for this. You would have to buy into a massive Zionist conspiracy (instigated by Jews) to believe that the European centre-right and right wing was only pro-Israeli because of some pressure (money?brain-washing?bribery? these are the usual ones) put on them by Zionists/Jews. The Daily Mail and their readership (Britain's lower-middle and middle-class) find they have more in common with Israel/Jews/Judaism than they do with Palestine/Islam/Muslims. They may be mistaken in this belief but all they have to go on are self-styled spokespeople for Islam making all the noise at the moment - the Bin Ladens, Anjum choudarys, and yes, Inayat Bunglawalahs - who don't do a very good job of convincing non-Muslims that Islam is an attractive life-style choice. (Some people, sure, are convinced of the moral strengths and sense of assuredness of Islam and convert to it - particularly in these days of moral collapse in the UK. But that moral collapse can be averted without recourse to religious dogma, in my view. Rationalism, science, free-thought need not have resulted in the social problems we have in the UK. But an excess of freedom brought about by the left and liberals - where anything goes - have brought about that collapse. So yes, there is much to learn from other cultures, much to remind ourselves of, much that we once had [self-respect, personal dignity] which we need to refind. Cromwell fought for freedom, but not that which we see around us today.)

deen: hit the wrong button, sorry.

Well, we ultimately get to the "one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter" bit, and I guess it depends on your cause (unless you think deliberatlely targetting civilians is normal behaviour). At least the IRA usually phoned ahead to warn they had planted a bomb. Personally, I wouldn't have talked to Gerry Adams or Sinn Fein, nor would I have gone into a power-sharing agreement with them. With their weapons-free successors, yes. Similarly, I would be disturbed if the UK government thought it was a good idea to talk to Hamas. But that's just me.

This website was written by the Muslim revert cousin of Dave Spart, methinks

Haven't seen many Zionists here for some time. Where is Paul M and RSD, etc. Maybe the pay check didn't arrive in time. The fact that Cromwell is hear spreading his twisted lies and half truths actually gives credibility to MPAC's story. When are they going to realise that public opinion has turned against them. Demonising Muslims is not going to get them any sympathy or credibility from the general public.

HAMAS was the elected government thanks to the EU taxpayer, and HAMAS cautioned Israeli government not to violate the cease fire as Their military wing (al-Qassam Brigades) would defend it self with rockets that can now reach 40km radius, what other warning dose one need, for me that is enough warning.

It is easy to say this on other people’s expanse. What totalitarian foolishness, they achieved peace and saved lives and I am seriously concerned what was the reason this attack took place. Something must have triggered this?

“The Daily Mail” hardly qualifies a unbiased news paper, also are you saying all Christen are working class. Come one, play the game.

Now why everyone thinks Muslims are trying to convert everyone in UK,
If you go to a Muslim majority country, not everyone has a beard, or ware a nikeb. Just like here people are busy trying to make a living.
There are some in Britain who believe in something, and have a right to find out about life here and here after. If you want to believe that you don’t have a after life and have only one life, that’s between you and what you believe in.

We must be listening to and reading different media. All I have seen and heard this month is how fed up the British are becoming with people like the Luton 20 and anyone who thinks like them. As for 'demonising Muslims' - the only ones who seem capable of doing that effectively are...er, Muslim organisations, protestors and 'leaders' like Inayat and Choudary. Even erstwhile lackeys like The Independent aren't above 'Islamophobic' (i.e. critical)comment. The Brits won't tolerate the intolerant forever. Not even the bleeding-heart liberals.

Also notting wrong having a beard, MOSES, SOLOMAN, DAVID, JESUS (pbh) all had beard.

There are many peaceful bearded character in many fairy storeys, also not to mention Santa Claus. It seems just to demonise Islam media is welling to destroy any tradition that involves having a beard.

What I'm saying is that the majority of Brits have more in common (culturally/intellectually/ethically/historically) with Israel/Jews/Judaism than they do with Palestine/Islam/Muslims. The Daily mail is just a reflection of this. Sure, The DM in particular likes to play on our fears whatever they are...whether it's falling house prices, Polish builders or dole-scroungers. But accusing them of being Zionist-influenced or 'racist' against Muslims merely hides the fact that much of the media (as a reflection of the public mood) has no love for Inayat or Choudary. If they find some dirt on them they are going to print it. And intolerant Muslim protestors, organisations or prosyletising spokesmen make it worse.

You're kidding, right? Famous beards in history? I'm sure you can find just as many bearded monsters as you can men-of-peace. By the way, how do you know if those you mentioned had beards? And why hasn't Inayat got one? I think we should be told.

Naturally you can’t believe one without the other. They are from the scriptures, the very scripture which give us their existence.

And what I am saying is, I don’t think it is true, now every community is smelling the stink of injustice, even within Jewish communities, but it is true the ass licking Media like Daily Mail trying act as the spokesman for the government to make people feel less common and fearful of Muslim so they can pass more law and reward them with increased tax, all by creating more and more fear in there own public.

to deen,is cromwell irish?you thick mofu!cromwell is one of the most hated figures in irish history,but being an expert on our history,you would know that!and you were there when moses started shaving were you?and you admit that christianity is the true religion(lol)being that you agree that beards are mentioned in the old testament(2500 years before koran)long before your cult was even thougth of.

I know Inayat & know he will be cleared because he is a good man - let due process run its course &, God-willing the Truth will come out!

my wife hasnt got a beard! can arabs say the same?

WTF! Beards as a mark of "peacefulness"? Are you off your head?

ROFL

Ralley around the what?

Cromwell, my legendary friend, stirring up trouble here like always eh.
Could you please explain to me what the center right stance is on British nationals and there permission on being able to fight for Israel, and why then are they barred from fighting for other governments?
Or could you explain to me why The S**, Torygraph, Hate Mail papers are all so much aligned against the Muslims, (worst on is Express, but thats not really a paper), that if you havent noticed then you must be living under a rock, or in the sea swimming with Mermaids?
If a paper deliberately goes out to vilify a certain community then is it no racial incitement? or are your mates, Rebekah Wade, That Telegraph editor whos name i forgot, above the law?

what can you expect from islam, everywhere in the world, islam shows its real face: hate, violence, war against women, war against all other faiths and cultures, regression, brain wash of kids, fanatism, threat and death sentence against any opponent, islam is worse than nazism .... disgusting in all its behaviours

what can you expect from islam, everywhere in the world, islam shows its real face: hate, violence, war against women, war against all other faiths and cultures, regression, brain wash of kids, fanatism, threat and death sentence against any opponent, islam is worse than nazism .... disgusting in all its behaviours

Commando,

Actually British (dual) nationals can serve in the Italian, German and many other armies as well as IDF. It's OK as long as they are not fighting Britain like your mates in Afghanistan.

And reporting things as they are is what journalists are supposed to do. I know in some of your ancestrial countries you can be persecuted for that, but surely you can understand it's not how UK workrs?

I have no idea what the law is on dual nationality and doing military service for the other country. As far as I know I've never heard centre-right or right political parties objecting to it in the case of British-Israeli Jews joining the IDF. Neither is that particularly relevant here.

As for the centre-right and right-wing press it seems to me that they are aligned against those Muslim individuals and Muslim organisations who are seen as trouble-makers - of which the recent past has many examples (the preachers-of-hate, terrorists, Luton protesters, behead those who insult Islam, those innocents who were just finding aout about Islam by hanging out with the Taleban etc). Unfortunatley for him Inayat Bunglawallah has shown himself to be two-tongued and duplicitous...and thus fair game for the press. The media also go for the loony white liberals who ban Christmas cards.

However, I agree, the Express goes too far sometimes. It's frightening to think what all those tabloid-readers in the host majority community might be capable of if pushed too far.

hi CROMWELL,
are you ok mate because you seem a bit irate is you angry with muslims?

Cromwell it seems is trying follow his firend Tony blair, and simply misleading people!

Daily Mail and Mail on sunday supported the Nazis during the 1930's! Just ask Daily Express, as they exposed this! and is owned by a zionist owner

Daily Express is owned by Zionist Richard Desmond, who owns Porn Magazines, just ask Daily Mail as they exposed that!

Telegraph is owned by Barclays brothers who are Zionist and previously it was owned by Lord Black, who is a zionist and is currently in prison for stealing millions from shareholders!

Sun, Sky TV, and fox TV is owned by Rupurt Murdoch who is a die hard Zionist!

So Cromwell these people are all following the Zionist agenda.

But Inayat aside, isn't it disgraceful that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) raped an 8 year old girl? Why do you think he is infallable?

bungalow boy is a slimy toad and deserves all he gets

'Hornstein' - a number of my contributions have not appeared (although there is always space for semi literacy like Deen's) so don't assume because you do not see me I am not trying to express my views. (Of course I have no idea whether this will appear. That's up to MPAC)

As for this story, (or 'storey' as Deen would have it - must be a tall one!) it is so ridiculous as to be beyond comment. No doubt if an attempted attack on Inyat were NOT reported, that would be part of a Zionist conspiracy too. And no doubt the man who tried to stab him is a Zionists, and no doubt he accuses Inayat of being a Zionist, and on and on it goes.

As I have commented before, nothing could be more damaging to the Ummah than buying into the MPAC victimology and the view that the Zionists are behind everything.

Hi Mitsubishi,
No, I'm not. That would be far too simple. However, there are certain organisations and individuals who purport to speak for Muslims for whom I have little or no regard. The two mentioned in the articles above, for example. And MPACUK article-writers- whom I consider to be little more than misguided, semi-educated rabble-rousers - who make the tabloid press in the UK look like paragons of truth, honesty and discretion!

Cromwell so you think people are getting fed up with, people like those in luton, so you believe in deceit and lies.
so you believe in racism and bigotry, it ios ok for white/christian people to use freedom of speech when villifying or demonising muslims but when muslims use the very same logic they are extremists.
The real extremist is yourself, you are like people i know who lecture others about how wrong they are but never seee anything wrong in their own actions.
As for Anjum choudhary i have stated om many occasions that the media are giving him air time to villify muslims, otherwsie i wish to know who elected him to represent muslims, what authroty does he have to be made spokesman for british muslims, the fact that the media uses him, shows there is a campaign against muslims.
Who it is run by for me is clear to see and that is the government, who is behind the government policy i do not know.

Wbat is needed is a Proactive Strategy against the Zionists in some shape or form. In the interim the tools muslims are using is not an effective deterrent or medium. I think Mpacuk needs to further widen its exposure and resources. More resources are needed to counterattack the zionists. Funding must be seeked and collated by legitimate means, am sure there plenty of Muslim MBA graduates who can develop a more effective political media strategy for Mpacuk to widen its tools. Conduct an analysis of where your gaps in terms of tools and then find possible strategies which will help you become more stronger creating tools which act as a deterrence.

enemies can be destroyed via strategic planning.

cheers
waslaam

Yes you would say that since your Zionist friends are the ones who own many of the racist muslim hating newspapers that you so love and cherish!

Racist Zionist git.

The fact that a Zionist like Cromwell is posting so many times, only proves to the rest of us, how much he does not want this story to go up. In which case it is a good indicator of why we should pay more attention to it.

Certainly untrue, your action indicated otherwise, The question is not what is the status and the qualification of the MPACUK article-writers, the question is what are you doing reading their article on a Muslim website.

Hi Mitsubishi,
No, I'm not. That would be far too simple. However, there are certain organisations and individuals who purport to speak for Muslims for whom I have little or no regard. The two mentioned in the articles above, for example. And MPACUK article-writers- whom I consider to be little more than misguided, semi-educated rabble-rousers - who make the tabloid press in the UK look like paragons of truth, honesty and discretion![/quote]

Of course your showing your exemplary education by your superficial grasp of the facts in this case, yes?

Cromwell have you read the article in the Daily Heil, you accuse MPAC of being a " bunch of rabble rousers ", while that may be true to some extent, indeed I that may be their purpose. But let us analyse this event and the article in the Heil and extrapolate the intentions and the suppsed virtuosity of the article which you seem to have taken as verbatim truth.

The incident in question is this, a masked intruder attempts to break into the Mr Bunglawala's house first attempting to kick the door down and then by breaking his back window. Bear in mind Mr Bunglawal and his extremely frightened wife and " several " children are in the house. Fearing for the lives of his wife and children Mr Bunglawala steps outside of the backside of his house with a weapon in this case a kitchen Knife with the intention of protecting life and property. The assailant is laying in wait for him and attacks him, in the ensuing struggle the man is stabbed. Mr B calls the police and the police start an investigation which is still ongoing.

Well a few things to note here 1) Mr B did not seek out this man 2) Mr B did not initiate the attack 3) Mr B was in his own property which the man attacked 4) the individual attacked Mr B on or near the grounds of his property 5) Mr B was protecting the lives of his family from what could only have been an extremely frightening event, is he not entitled to do that?

Now that all being said now how did the Heil report it as, did they mention any of the context or the circumstance? Hell No. What they do remind us of is he has a " £300,000" houde in Luton as if that was important at all to the fact that he was defending his life and property. Now I recall the case of the feted hero Tony Martin who shot the intruders of his propert in the back while they were actually in flight from him. I wonder how the heil reported this event, Why he was a brave Englishman defending his land and limb from verminous criminal a man to be praised as a hero infact!!. While Mr B did not take any ones life nor did he shoot a child in the back while he was fleeing, he was involved in a scuffle defending what was his from an attack from an menacing intruder.

Instead showing their dung beatle nature, the good upstanding folk at the The Heil, try to character assasinate the poor man by quoting him selectively again without context at all. As if all those extemparaneous details matters whwn a man is trying to break into your home to do harm to you and your " several " choldren.

Does not his families lives matter to the Heil or to you Cromwell? Does Mr Martins vases matter more to them are muslims that sub human in their eyes that you cant see past your narrow agenda and just see that this man was just trying to protect his loved ones!!!

They say an Englishmans home is his castle yu may not consider him English but an Indian mans home is his castle to you know and the family within them are precious gems you would lay your life down to protect, would you not " cromwell "?

Hi Mitsubishi,
No, I'm not. That would be far too simple. However, there are certain organisations and individuals who purport to speak for Muslims for whom I have little or no regard. The two mentioned in the articles above, for example. And MPACUK article-writers- whom I consider to be little more than misguided, semi-educated rabble-rousers - who make the tabloid press in the UK look like paragons of truth, honesty and discretion![/quote]

Of course your showing your exemplary education by your superficial grasp of the facts in this case, yes?

Cromwell have you read the article in the Daily Heil, you accuse MPAC of being a " bunch of rabble rousers ", while that may be true to some extent, indeed I that may be their purpose. But let us analyse this event and the article in the Heil and extrapolate the intentions and the suppsed virtuosity of the article which you seem to have taken as verbatim truth.

The incident in question is this, a masked intruder attempts to break into the Mr Bunglawala's house first attempting to kick the door down and then by breaking his back window. Bear in mind Mr Bunglawal and his extremely frightened wife and " several " children are in the house. Fearing for the lives of his wife and children Mr Bunglawala steps outside of the backside of his house with a weapon in this case a kitchen Knife with the intention of protecting life and property. The assailant is laying in wait for him and attacks him, in the ensuing struggle the man is stabbed. Mr B calls the police and the police start an investigation which is still ongoing.

Well a few things to note here 1) Mr B did not seek out this man 2) Mr B did not initiate the attack 3) Mr B was in his own property which the man attacked 4) the individual attacked Mr B on or near the grounds of his property 5) Mr B was protecting the lives of his family from what could only have been an extremely frightening event, is he not entitled to do that?

Now that all being said now how did the Heil report it as, did they mention any of the context or the circumstance? Hell No. What they do remind us of is he has a " £300,000" houde in Luton as if that was important at all to the fact that he was defending his life and property. Now I recall the case of the feted hero Tony Martin who shot the intruders of his propert in the back while they were actually in flight from him. I wonder how the heil reported this event, Why he was a brave Englishman defending his land and limb from verminous criminal a man to be praised as a hero infact!!. While Mr B did not take any ones life nor did he shoot a child in the back while he was fleeing, he was involved in a scuffle defending what was his from an attack from an menacing intruder.

Instead showing their dung beatle nature, the good upstanding folk at the The Heil, try to character assasinate the poor man by quoting him selectively again without context at all. As if all those extemparaneous details matters whwn a man is trying to break into your home to do harm to you and your " several " choldren.

Does not his families lives matter to the Heil or to you Cromwell? Does Mr Martins vases matter more to them are muslims that sub human in their eyes that you cant see past your narrow agenda and just see that this man was just trying to protect his loved ones!!!

They say an Englishmans home is his castle yu may not consider him English but an Indian mans home is his castle to you know and the family within them are precious gems you would lay your life down to protect, would you not " cromwell "?

There is so many things disturbing with this above statements, for starters if you turn it around the other way round then you will be accused of anti-Semitism, let alone if you were applying similar sentiment to black people during the 60s in the west, “more in common”.

Should we be surprised, see below:

Winston Churchill: (Feb 1922):
"In both Houses of Parliament there is growing movement of hostility, against Zionist policy in Palestine, which will be stimulated by recent Northcliffe articles. I do not attach undue importance to this movement, but it is increasingly difficult to meet the argument that it is unfair to ask the British taxpayer, already overwhelmed with taxation, to bear the cost of imposing on Palestine an unpopular policy."

cromwell - you Neo-Con Zionist, I dont think you know what your talking about!

Cromwell - You seem to have a lot of time in your hands, is this kinda thing your full time job?
I will not attempt to delve in to detail and intricacies of some of your statements and absolutely fantastic superficial ideas.

Mate, the UK has lost its position in the global agenda, its views are hardly noteworthy, please do some research into Brown's recent trip to the USA, where unfortunately, his hosts were not up to scratch with their levels of hospitality. The reason for this is simple, the UK has lost its ability to shape and execute Foreign Policy at a Geo Strategic Level, It has either been a poodle behind the US or the Watchman for Zionist Israel.

''majority of Brits have more in common with Israel/Jews/Judaism than they do with Palestine/Islam/Muslims.' '

I think you should be careful making statements like that, I dont think many patriotic Brits, like to be associated with a Country that was founded on a Terrorist Act (The KING DAVID TERRORISM), against the UK interests at the time! How much lower can people fall in their dignity, honour....I wonder.....lining up unparalleled support for a state founded on Terrorism, Governed by an apartheid system that has different roads/motorways for Jews and Non Jews!! Hello Imagine the M25 like that...

This country's media is 'controlled', you can call it a conspiracy or whatever you want, but its fact that cannot be disproved. Hundreds of leading Journalists can testify to this.

And by the way, the UK is a Christian Country, History is full of horror stories that plagues the Christio-Judaist relationship. Some of us have read books you know, you can fool nobody with remarks.

I think it will be much easier making this correllation perhaps in the following context:

Imperial Britain has a lot in common with Imperial Israel/Zionism, i.e: Israel occupies Palestine, Britain occupied half of Africa and still legally occupies DIEGO GARCIA in the CHAGOS. Now there is a commonality. In both cases an Indeginous Population have been grossly abused and displaced from their lands of Origin.

I wonder how we would react, if the Russians came to the UK, forced us all out of our lands, and shoved us into Northern Ireland! may be, we would sit around tables and engage in diplomacy....or even better, we would serve them chocolates!

What is Zionism? At one point in the past it was perceived as an unattainable romantic objective of the Jews, who were regarded by Muslims and Christians as objects of dismissal and degradation. Later it became a small movement of Jews who believed that they had no alternative in the face of secatrianism and growing nationalism to establish a nation state, yet this movement was largely dismissed as being an easily swept away absurdity. Next it became the humiliating affront to principaly Muslim sensibilities that could not grasp that the most despised of nations could better the Muslims in battle. Then Zionism affronted Islam further by exceeding Muslims in every field. Now Zionism has expanded to include any and every challenge to Muslim sensitivities.
While it is wonderfully propganda, it is a profoundly stupid strategy as it drives all we disagree with into the single camp of the Zionists. It is therefore no wonder they once driven into this position that these "Zionists" regard all Muslims with suspicion and emnity. Of course it has the added benefit of enabling us to avoid any rational and objective criticism, and any self-examination.

Both Shamsur and Deen aspire to the eradication of Zionism and it's alleged influence around the world. It is the obvious demand. Yet what does it mean in truth?
As the desire to return to what in modern times has been described as Palestine has been a characteristic of Jewish aspirations for at least a millenia. Did not Maimonides, the physician to Saladin and the Cairene Vizier, not express such sentiments? And surely those aspirations have been couched not in the sense of subservient toleration that both Islam and Christianity would offer, but in independent self-determination. Thus it can be readily seen that Zionism sits at the heart of Jewish identity and aspiration. Naturally the Jews have used whatever resources they have to hand to pursue their dreams. Exactly as both Muslims and Christians have done.
How then are we to create a circumstance where Zionism ceases to exist? What incentive can we offer the Jews to set aside this goal? Can we offer, hand on heart, that we shall create societies wherein they may live freely without fear or hindrance, and with equality. We might conure up some hypotheses along these lines but we must convince the Jews before it may be implemented.
May I humbly suggest to you all that we have no credibility with the Jews. We have done little or nothing to build such trust. Is it not the case that as soon as they had relinquished their desire and attainments that we would turn upon them like wolves upon sheep. Is it not true that we gaze upon their verdant fields with all the rapine lust of savage beasts driven by our jealousy, our humiliation and our corruption? Just look at the Muslim world and ask yourself, "If I were a Jew would I trust the word of the Muslims?"
How many are there among us who dream of imposing the fabled Khalifat upon the world regardless of the wishes of the people that now inhabit those lands. Is this dream worthier than the Jewish dreams of Zion?
Before we offer to perfect others in their error, we should address our own profound failings.

So even the great man (Churchill) had an inkling of fear against the Zionists lol

You've exposed nothing other thatn your own collective silliness and paranoia, MPACUK.

Again.

The hidden agenda ?

The Daily "Heil" and the Evening Standatds of the right wing Zionist media continue to demonize Muslims and their leaders, repeating the same old propaganda that Islam and Muslims are a threat to the Western civilization. Muslims have lived in Britain peacefully for hundreds of years.
I think the real threat you fear is the emergence of a generation of young British Muslims that opposes your Zionist views and the cause of Israel.
They fear that the ideological movement that created the Zionist state that had its origins in Britain, may also see thee origins of its destruction in Britain.
What they fail to realize is that the demonization of Muslims damages Britain by adding to xenophobia, which ultimately will be directed at other minorities

to cromwell,keep it up,these idiots see a zionist every time they open their eyes.maryam,you have not been in the uk for hundreds of years(tell us all when you arrived there in any numbers)?the jews on the other hand have,since the 13th century,funny how they're not a jewish state by now!deen!you are one big waste of flesh,the crap you put on here is bollocks!read on about churchill,see what he says about muslims!so many idiots and so little time.

Well said, their uncivilised insults and zero facts are not convincing anybody. I wouldn’t even wipe my shoe with these bunches of unqualified brainwashed zombies.

Ha ha, what makes you think I didn’t know who it was, He just sounded like an idiot, just like you.

No, I don't hate Irish, Just some IDIOTS which says its Irish yet supports “cromwell”, Going Whichever Way The Wind Blows, you light weight.