| Palestinians Slaughtered – Muslims Groups Useless |
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| Tuesday, 30 December 2008 | |
 I don’t care what anyone says – our Muslim Leaders and groups are pathetic.
Every single time these poor Palestinians are massacred these stupid Muslim
groups do the same stupid things as they always do - nothing.
The
Israelis have laid siege the Palestinians to the brink of starvation, and while
they sat there starving, our pathetic Muslim Leaders organised talks (not about
saving them, or educating us to take some intelligent action or the Islamic
obligation to protect them), but instead about pathetic minor points of fiqh to
pacify us into doing nothing but arguing with each other about the perfect
length of the beard and trousers.
Then as usual the Zionists went in and murdered the starving people – and instead of an educated well informed public who had been taught their Islamic duty on being prepared to protect and defend the Ummah jumping up and taking action, we had a mass of sincere Muslims who didn’t have a clue what to do in the situation because they were too busy being taught the ‘deen of the trouser length’. These sincere Muslims pacified by the pointless lectures that they claim are Islamic are always surprised when this happens, even though it happens like clockwork every single year. Even when the massacre happens - like clockwork the Muslim leaders take to screwing up the reaction to it: 1. If you are a mosque Leader – you put your fingers in your ears, shove your head up your own backside, and refuse to do anything POLITICAL, and wait till the anger goes away and then ask people to give you money so you can build a bigger extension. 2. If you are a so called self made scholars – you carry on as if nothing is happening, grumble a bit, do a Dua and then organise a giant global talk on the ‘in-permissibility of nail varnish’ 3. Even when they do the bare minimum they screw it up. Instead of organising a mass talk and conference with other Muslim groups to educate the Muslims to demand their MP’s take action or lose their seat, instead of mass Media lobbying and demands to censure biased reporting like the Israeli Zionist lobby is doing, instead of teaching Muslims to call in their thousands to their MP’s and Media channels to ensure REAL reporting, and to bombard the comment sections of all news and reporting websites with the Palestinians side like the Israeli community is doing now – they organise the next talk on ‘is Allah in heaven or all around us’. When will we have Muslim groups who really teach an Islam that teaches the Ummah the duty of protecting your brothers and sisters and more importantly – how to do it. If you want to know what to really do for Palestine watch this: http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/2017/1/    Readers have left 14 comments.
Ali:
I totally agree with this. It feels like no one really cares about this at the moment - muslims in the West that is. On the other hand you have Zionists from around the world sending money to Israel to help fund these atrocities. As you say instead of building extensions to our mosques here we should be sending it there to build a school or hospital!
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2008-12-30 22:34:51
jack:
So you are saying that political islamism has failed. Right?
perhaps you might consider reverting to being a religion?
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2008-12-30 22:47:23
john smith:
i think the un and britain have both called for a ceasefire, israel isnot listening, other than raise money and write to the mp and media, british muslims cant really do anything that will impact on the ground. what is needed is an islamic state, because if egypt was an islamic state it wouldnt stop gazans from crossing the border, if saudi was an islamic state, it would use oil as a weapon, if jordan was an islamic state, it would send its army to help, we need a popular mass revolution in muslim countries so we dont have to lobby the media and goverment as a minority in a little island which right now is to now avail as israel isnt listening, however if you had 50 islamic states united with one army, it would be more than receptive to a muslim outcry. and no am not ht
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2008-12-30 23:50:15
Abdul:
I think some of the tone that has been described in the article above is uncalled for. Is it really a Muslim who is calling another Muslim someone who will "put your fingers in your ears, shove your head up your own backside"? Is this the adab that the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) taught us when he spread the knowledge of Islam? Let us not forget the entire reasoning behind why organisations such as MPAC are around - to help the Muslims and the religion of Islam. Therefore, we need to ensure that we are not doing anything that goes against that and this clearly is as our Prophet (SAW) stated "Whosoever believes in Allaah and the Last Day, then let him speak good or remain silent."
It is a shame as what seems to be emanating from the article is a real hatred for the Muslim leaders and the work they do. Correct me if I am wrong, but is it haram to build a masjid? And is it right to make a blanket statement about the Muslim leaders by saying "Even when they do the bare minimum they screw it up". This is dangerous my brothers and sisters. Yes, we all have zeal to work for Islam - but not in a manner that contradicts the teachings of that Islam! I have been privy to many of the work of MPAC over the years and masha-Allah, they do an excellent job. But I think this article was a tad too far in criticising other Muslims. There is no wrong in allowing a Muslim to concentrate on one field and another to concentrate somewhere else.
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2008-12-31 01:29:53
Jim Smith:
" think the un and britain have both called for a ceasefire, israel isnot listening"
And is Hamas listening? The sequence of events is:- Truce Ends & Hamas fire nearly 200 rockets in a few days. Israel loses patience and responds Hamas responds with more rockets. It is for the initiator to declare that they want to have a ceasefire. Hamas, in this sequence is the initiator. Every Govt has condemned Hamas firing rockets as the pre-cursor to Israel actions. Don't answer that Israel planned this six months ago because they didn't. What they planned was a contingency if the Hamas truce stopped and Hamas resumed firing rockets. Well they did and the contingency plan came into effect.
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2008-12-31 09:06:08
saladin:
I do not have much faith in the western muslim ability to act. I think they have been conditioned to feel useless, and have lost that universal wisdom that one man can change the world.
We have dozens and dozens of established muslim organisations in this country and given this current climate they could make a real difference, by challenging the normalacy of relationships with israel and britain in various fields. They are in a very real position to have key zionist supporters marganilized or removed from key posts. they are in a very real position to encourage and foster a climate where zionism, and support of zionism within this country is seen as just as loathsome and disgusting as the BNP. As it should be But they won't act, they will let this unique opportunity slip away.
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2008-12-31 10:58:39
g:
At the end of the day, its not as if even the most ardent MPAC members only provide humanitarian and political help to other muslims all day long, beautiful as that may be. They too spend time on other things, whether it be chilling out with friends or watching football on the TV, or what ever else takes their fancy.
There's nothing wrong with going to a talk on fiqh or tafseer if that's something that interests you, just as there isn't anything wrong with watching Match of the Day or going to the local funfair with your kids. People are human, and everyone needs a break and variety in their lives. Don't bash this. Still love MPAC for the work they do.
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2008-12-31 12:14:22
omar:
JIM SMITH
You should really look away from CNN, Sky news for your information, they are baised.On 5th Nov The Israelis launched yet another incursion and killed Palestinians. This was during the " Truce ". Only after this incursion did Hamas retaliate. You need to look into FACTS before you comment.. Israel under siege??????? Really, how many Palestinian F-16's, tanks warships are there on the streets of the Zionist entity????? The Zionist have planned for this all along. They starved the population and " soften them up for the kill ". NOW they are going for the kill. After this they will turn their attention to the West Bank. Remember that last comment JIM don’t forget that after all Israel is built on stolen/occupied land and the world has also said that the settlements/occupation are illegal. Give back what you have stolen and then there will be peace Palestine WILL be free inshallah
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2008-12-31 12:59:10
jack:
Someone has responded to my post, but unfortunately the posting i made has not actually been posted.....
Yes, political islam has failed completely, and doubtless the Pakistan situation will get worse for some time to come. Saladin, at the risk of being a bore, muslims make up 3% of the population, and radical muslims less than 1%. That is the extent of your influence. How could it be otherwise? That's the way it works in a democracy - you have to accept things you abhor with good grace. That is the single reason why the West is prosperous and peaceful and the Muslim countries are not. If you had your Caliphate, without democracy it would be in a continuous state of civil war, or it would have to establish a nazi-like hegemony. A democratic Caliphate might have a chance if the fundis would accept it. But they wont, so you folk are looking at a pretty bleak future.
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2008-12-31 15:26:47
hussein:
In 2005 when Lebanon was being destroyed the Arab states stood around and even had the nerve to blame hizbollah, rather than the zionist state. People stood around content that it was the shia being killed and so there was no need for action.
There are hardly or no shia in gaza and yet these same arab leaders stay motionless again blaming hamas. At such a stage there is no message more relevant than Imam Hussain (as) in kerbala when he stood up for humanity, and gave his duniya for truth and justice. What a pitiful state that none of these leaders have learnt his message barring hassan nasrullah and a few others
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2008-12-31 17:52:22
john smith:
" think the un and britain have both called for a ceasefire, israel isnot listening" — Jim SmithAnd is Hamas listening? The sequence of events is:- Truce Ends & Hamas fire nearly 200 rockets in a few days. Israel loses patience and responds Hamas responds with more rockets. It is for the initiator to declare that they want to have a ceasefire. Hamas, in this sequence is the initiator. Every Govt has condemned Hamas firing rockets as the pre-cursor to Israel actions. Don't answer that Israel planned this six months ago because they didn't. What they planned was a contingency if the Hamas truce stopped and Hamas resumed firing rockets. Well they did and the contingency plan came into effect. dont chat rubbish, hamas responded to the blockade of its land which was causing harm to its people, it called for a renewal of the truce on more favourable terms, ie. letting essential supplies in to its nation, israel initiated this not hamas
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2008-12-31 18:24:40
Jaffar:
i think the un and britain have both called for a ceasefire, israel isnot listening, other than raise money and write to the mp and media, british muslims cant really do anything that will impact on the ground. what is needed is an islamic state, because if egypt was an islamic state it wouldnt stop gazans from crossing the border, if saudi was an islamic state, it would use oil as a weapon, if jordan was an islamic state, it would send its army to help, we need a popular mass revolution in muslim countries so we dont have to lobby the media and goverment as a minority in a little island which right now is to now avail as israel isnt listening, however if you had 50 islamic states united with one army, it would be more than receptive to a muslim outcry. and no am not ht — john smithYea what we need is angels coming down on white horses. what a stupid argument. We LIVE in this little Island - so other then wait for the Islamic state, let us get POLITICAL POWER and work and do OUR BIT. MPAC is spot on with this article and the responses by the idiots here only show how right they are to blame the muslim groups for teaching the muslims to be idiots.
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2009-01-01 13:32:19
Mohammad:
Why dont you lobby the Muslim governments instead of your local MP. What influence does Britain have?? not much. Surely, the Muslims governments have a greater ability to intervene and stop the massacre due to their geographic location. The Muslim governments are also under immense pressure from their own people to defend the Palestinians and fulfil their Islamic duty.
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2009-01-01 17:02:04
Muslim government???:
Why dont you lobby the Muslim governments instead of your local MP. What influence does Britain have?? not much. Surely, the Muslims governments have a greater ability to intervene and stop the massacre due to their geographic location. The Muslim governments are also under immense pressure from their own people to defend the Palestinians and fulfil their Islamic duty. — MohammadDo you mean the puppet Muslim government, who have for years, sat and watched and did jack for 50 years, as Palestine been occuppied? Which planet you live on bro? Please, do point to me which government is really Muslim? Heck the whole lot are puppets. They've been under pressure for YEARS!
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2009-01-02 07:03:27
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