Here we have a report from al Jazeera on how some Pakistanis are saying it is time to stand up to India, and stop apologising.
MPACUK Note:
The Muslim sister who speaks so articulately in the news piece shows
how intelligent our sisters are. What a crime that they are banned and
sidelined by the leaders in our mosques and most Islamic groups from
really helping our Ummah. We know many Muslims can't get past the fact
that some of their hair is showing, but for the rest of us, we take our
hats off to her! The more our sisters are allowed to take leadership
positions, the better! May Allah bless them in our jihad.
Readers have left 13 comments.
Clifford Ishii:
And Indians should become Biblical Christians( without apologies) to counter radical Muslims from so called "moderate Muslim" countries.
(1)2008-12-05 00:27:32
Clifford Ishii:
I am a Biblical Christian along with millions of Americans and other people around the world, and we say so without apologies to Muslims. If that is offensive to Muslims, then good.
(2)2008-12-05 00:55:16
Osman Ghazi:
To Clifford
You keep posting the same statement on every story. Don't you have anything better to do?
As for the bible, the bible has been discredited by the very people who (used) to call themselves Christians in the home of Christianity, Europe. The bible has been updated, modified, annulled, deleted, mistranslated, so many times in 2000 years that the term 'biblical Christianity' is just plane wrong.
The fact that you have to say 'biblical Christianity' instead of Christianity says speaks volumes, how many Christianities are there? It is as if a Muslim stating Quranic Islam - it doesn't make sense.
Why don't you post something a bit more interesting? Something relating to the story?
For everybody else, The Telegraph reported that some of the attackers in Mumbai took cocaine, some witnesses (source: BBC) stated that the attacker drank alcohol. why is this not being reported more widely?
(3)2008-12-05 12:05:39
Raja77:
More fake outrage from duplicitous (Shan - look it up in a dictionary) PAkistanis. Christ, you can't even have a game of cricket with Pakistan without them going off in a huff, never mind getting to the bottom of the terrorism thatis being supported and encouraged by agencies of the state.
— Olson
Hi Olson,
Do you have any evidence to back up your above statement, if not wait for another libel writ!
(4)2008-12-05 12:52:22
Akbar:
BACK TO TOPIC FOLKS!
I never knew Pakistanis were "apologising" to Indians anyway.
(5)2008-12-05 15:13:11
rob:
i agree the sister has spoken eloquently to raise the point of indian bullying, its neighbourly rival Pakistan. i wonder how many attacks india is behind with help of (RAW) on Pakistani and non-Pakistani citizens of the world? well done opposition MP Honourable Marvi Memon. i salute you
(6)2008-12-05 16:35:40
Islamic Torch:
And Indians should become Biblical Christians( without apologies) to counter radical Muslims from so called "moderate Muslim" countries.
— Clifford Ishii
If you think Indians will follow the religion of christianity when christians themselves are now questioning its authencity and are reverting to Islam - you need to ask yourself why are millions turning to Islam - at the end of the day it is only 1400 so years old and christianity and others have been about longer - and as for the offense - I'm all smiles - and whats this you call yourselves biblical christians - sound like characters out of life of Brian... I guess in real life you are a Brian
(7)2008-12-05 17:47:38
Bugar Mii:
I am a Biblical Christian along with millions of Americans and other people around the world, and we say so without apologies to Muslims. If that is offensive to Muslims, then good.
— aftab ul huq
good? clifford you have become very aggressive and confrontational in the last few weeks, are penetrating questions about your phony faith getting you down? how come you never reply to the allegations made against christianity?
— Clifford Ishii
Phony faith? Why is it you feel you can say that about Christianity when the moment someone publishes a cartoon (a cartoon for Gods sake!) critical of your prophet you go mental! What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
(8)2008-12-05 18:27:24
K Urban:
It’s certainly time for us to stop apologising.
But not just to India, but to the whole world.
Christianity needs to start reigning in its political leaders, and tell them to stop devastating the planet with their wholesale bombing of nations, and killing and maiming of the poor.
Otherwise, Christianity is certainly NOT a religion of peace.
(9)2008-12-06 08:37:47
K Urban:
Clifford Ishii the One Line Wonderboy can’t write a line without shooting himself in both feet. He is the real ‘‘Boy Blunder’’
Now on the 5th day of December in the 2008th year of our Lord, Clifford Ishii wrote ‘‘And Indians should become Biblical Christians’’.
Really Clifford?
And we all know what you Christians did to Red Indians.
Back to the Bat Cave, Clifford.
(10)2008-12-06 09:22:00
RSD:
The Bible (Old & New Testaments) has been subjected to analysis and some of the conclusions lead people to question interpretations of the accounts. However it does not afford credibility to any other than Christians & Jews unless other relgions submit their sacred texts to the same intellectual rigour. I note that any questionning of the Quran is denied by many contributors, elicting some of the most offensive responses. May I suggest that people in glass house shoudl not throw stones!
(11)2008-12-08 11:37:14
warraqRa:
To Clifford As for the bible, the bible has been discredited by the very people who (used) to call themselves Christians in the home of Christianity, Europe. The bible has been updated, modified, annulled, deleted, mistranslated, so many times in 2000 years that the term 'biblical Christianity' is just plane wrong.
This is typical Muslim teaching and it has little foundation. The Qu'ran itself in sura 2:98 say that it 'confirms previous scriptures..' (Dawood translation)so I assume you don't believe in the Qu'ran. It is of course true that the Bible no one has an original copy of any of its books and it has been corrupted because errors were made in copying and so on but it is also true that there are huge number of manuscripts so its easy to see where various emanations were made and reconstruct as near can be the original.
If oner contrasts this with the Qu'ran there seem to be an unbridgeable gap because there are no complete Qu'ran dating back to the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and the earliest known ones date from about 200 years after his death so no one can say its uncorrupted and no one can say its complete.
Why don't you post something a bit more interesting? Something relating to the story?
For everybody else, The Telegraph reported that some of the attackers in Mumbai took cocaine, some witnesses (source: BBC) stated that the attacker drank alcohol. why is this not being reported more widely?
— Osman Ghazi
(12)2008-12-08 16:26:15
Raja:
MPAC, I agree with the politician in the video, Pakistan needs to be steadfast in response to Indian bullying tactics and India needs to deal with its internal policy to curb Indian ‘home grown’ terrorist. I also agree with the analyst that the current Pakistani president is not equipped to deal with this situation and therefore, should step down.
I disagree with MPACs’ comments, criticising the Mosques. I appreciate we have intelligent females within the Muslim communities and that they should be encouraged to do well. But, that does Not mean all the male member of the respective Muslim communities are stupid!!!
