| Action Alert: Stop the erosion of our civil liberties! |
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"There is no more fundamental principle of liberty than that men and women should not be locked up without being allowed their day in court." Do not let the Government take away our civil liberties - take action and contact your MP TODAY! Liberty, the civil liberties and human rights organisation, have been running their "Charge or Release" campaign since last November. Their website states:
What the papers say about the anti-terror proposals:
Take Action: Write or email your MP and let them know your objections to such destruction of our freedom and liberty.
You can find out who your local MP is and their contact details by going to: www.theyworkforyou.com Further Reading: Readers have left 18 comments.
markuk:
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Action Alert: Stop the erosion of our civil liberties!.
What you really mean in this title is Action Alert: Stop the kuffar stopping violent jihad. PLease dont act like you give a toss about civil liberties. Just look at the civil liberties in any islamic country. All it boils down to is you dont like the face that a kuffar government might detain a muslim terrorist jihadist islamists. I myself are prepared to be detained for 40 days if it means the uk would be a safer place. Lets not forget why we have to sacrafice some of out liberties. Is because muslims are going around with bombs stapped to themselves trying to cause as much damage as possible to go to paradise. Then you have the rest of the muslims saying oh dont worry we are really peaceful but you beeter not mention you think islam is violent because that will mean your an ismamophobe. and muslims get angery when the kuffar calls them violent but they allow the likes of anjem choudary to say mohammed himself was violent. funny that isnt it. Of course none of this is the fault of muslims though.
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2008-06-05 12:47:08
Khaleel:
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http://www.thecitycircle.com/blog2.php?cann_id=669
Muslim orgs need to work together on this one.
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2008-06-05 14:51:20
rew:
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IF YOUR NOT INVOLVED IN TERRORISM THEM THERE IS NOTHING FOR YOU TO WORRY ABOUT
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2008-06-05 15:22:49
joe:
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WHY DOSNT THE GOVERNMENT REALISE THAT ITS NOT JUST THE BOMBERS WE NEED TO TACKLE, ITS THE CREEP OF SHRIA, WE NEED TO FIGHT TOO, WHAT LAWS ARE THEY BRINGING IN TO STOP THAT. HRER IS ONE, JUST AS MUSLIMS DO NOT SEE NON MUSLIMS AS "INNOCENT" WHEN THEY REFER TO "ISLAM DOSNT TEACH THE KILLING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE" BY THE SAME TOKEN WE SHOULNT SEE THEM AS HUMAN WHEN WE REFER TO HUMAN RIGHTS!!
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2008-06-05 15:34:25
JOhn:
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How about doing something for civil liberties in Muslim countries? They certainly need the efforts.
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2008-06-05 19:22:27
Wayne Morris:
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Forget civil liberties have a look at
http://www.god.tv/stream?quality=High®ion=UK
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2008-06-05 21:55:28
William:
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What would the pre-charge detention limit be in the new Caliphate?
You're having a laugh. Muslims defending Western civil liberties is like crocodiles guarding ducks.
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2008-06-06 08:43:01
shan:
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It seems islamphobic and bigoted racists have a hard time accepting that british citizens who happen to be muslims have rights as well.
instead of going of in rants about rights in muslim nations,we do not live in a muslim nations we live in great britain,so we can debate and crtiicise all aspects of what is happening here. I think mpac needs to apply its stick to topic rules,otherwise these blogs are becoming islam haters forums. BTW i am still waiting for islamophobic bigots to condemn american and british christian-pagan or atheist terrorism in iraq,it seems the cats got their tongues.
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2008-06-06 11:34:01
markuk:
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I think almost everyone in the UK would condemn any soldier that is in Iraq and just killing anyone at all. I certainly would. But you know quite well its islamist insurgents who are determined not to let iraq have a democracy because they hate the freedom that you have in the west. The problem with a lot of muslims is they wont condemn the islamists and will try to blame it all on the iraq war.
If violent jihad is because of the iraq war then why did a bomb blow up outside the Danish embassy and kill 6 people and injured 30? What has this got to do with the iraq war? Or are you going to try to tell me a cartoon can justify 6 deaths.
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2008-06-06 14:10:59
William:
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Shan
Fear is not phobic if it has a rational basis-fear of Muslim suicide bombers is therefore not Islam-or-any-other-kind-o-phobia. Islam is not a race therefore islam cannot suffer from racism. The terrorism in Iraq is enterely the work of sectarian Muslims who hate each other more than they hate the occupying forces. That's the reality of your "Ummah"-there's no such thing.
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2008-06-06 14:36:02
John:
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"instead of going of in rants about rights in muslim nations,we do not live in a muslim nations we live in great britain,so we can debate and crtiicise all aspects of what is happening here."
How about NOT mentioning Iraq, Afghanistan & Israel every two seconds then, becuase you live in THIS country and not THERE?
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2008-06-06 20:22:18
Zara:
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Excellent points Shan!!
I think we both know that those who harbour/express anti-Muslim rhetoric are Sun, Daily Express, Daily Mail or Telegraph readers! You can always tell: lack of education and inaccurate statements are a big give away. It's not completely their fault. Though, people CHOOSE to be ignorant, large sections of the media are responsible for scare mongering and the Islamophobia that has become common place.
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2008-06-07 13:26:12
Philip:
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It seems islamphobic and bigoted racists have a hard time accepting that british citizens who happen to be muslims have rights as well. — shani Shan - your post unintentionally encapsulates why non-Muslims get so irate with Muslims. It's not "Ismamophobia', you see (a false construct if ever there was one), it's the endless preoccupation with YOUR 'rights' and EVERYONE ELSE'S 'responsibilities'.
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2008-06-07 15:17:24
shan:
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Phillip can you yell me what rights i am asking for that others do not have.
We are asking for equal treatment,when a person who happens to be christian carries out a bomb explosion his religion is never mentioned,so when a person who happens to be a muslim does the same his relgion is mentioned. when parents say that schools are failing their children,newspapers come out with headlines like muslims tell us how to run our schools,but when others say the same thing their faith is never mentioned. we pay our taxes and follow the rules like everyone else,if a rule contradicts our beleifs we have the right like everyone else to lobby to have it changed,everyone has that right to lobby. It seems at this moment the only people not protected against insult and ridicule are muslims,so lets bash them.
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2008-06-09 10:27:40
William:
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Shan
"We are asking for equal treatment,when a person who happens to be christian carries out a bomb explosion his religion is never mentioned,so when a person who happens to be a muslim does the same his relgion is mentioned." Unfortunately for your "poor us" agenda, Muslim bombers carry out their atrocities (or try to- luckily most of them are too thick to make the mixture properly) BECAUSE they are Muslims and IN THE NAME of Islam. IRA,ETA, Copeland etc had their own axes to grind:- they never claimed to be acting in the name of Christianity. You lose.
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2008-06-09 13:19:20
shan:
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William it seems our true colurs are starting to show.
I.R.A had nothing to do with religion,you must really think everyone is high on the same stuff that you are not to notice,the sectarian murders. the british government was supported by protestants as the british government is protestant,the i.r.a was a catholic group supported by catholics. if that is not war based on religion in your books than you are prime example of a bigot. Do inform us of one even one instance when people who carry out attacks state that we do this because islam tells us to do so. I shall await your evidence to back up your claims.
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2008-06-09 14:45:35
William:
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Shan
No problem: here's a direct quote from Siddiq Kan's 7/7 "martyrdom" video. Glad to help. "Our driving motivation doesn't come from tangible commodities that this world has to offer. Our religion is Islam - obedience to the one true God, Allah, and following the footsteps of the final prophet and messenger Muhammad... This is how our ethical stances are dictated. Your democratically elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world. And your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters." Pretty clear wouldn't you agree? Apparently you don't know anything much about the Northern Ireland Troubles. I'll let you do your own research on that.
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2008-06-09 17:37:02
shan:
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William i ask you again tell me where he says we are going to bomb you and keep attacking you because islam tells me so? He clearly says he is doing the acts in relation to acts done against other muslims.
If these people found solace in their faith,they are no diffrent from I.R.A people who found solace in their faith,ever wondered why the churches were go betweens the groups. I again ask you for the evidence as to how much i know about ireland you will be surprised, i grew up during the bombings and attacks,protestants killed catholics,they in turn killed protestants and that has nothing to do with religion. As for the people who allegedly carried out 7/7 they were nothing but patsies and numpties,there is no excuse for violence against civillians. But to date christian-pagan and atheist extremists find it hard to condemn the actions of their fellows but keep patrionsing muslims.
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2008-06-10 10:09:51
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