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| Thursday, 29 May 2008 | |
MPACUK Comment: He’s at it again. The BNP’s favourite man of the cloth, Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali is stirring up religious hatred as usual. In a fashion that has become the Bishop’s hallmark he writes in the Islamophobes’ favourite broadsheet, The Daily Telegraph, that Christianity is on the wane and that radical Islam could fill the vacuum. This is in keeping with the Bishop’s modus operandi of making unsubstantiated claims against Islam and then standing back to let hatred increase. The Church authorities should either back or sack this hate-monger.
Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali: Radical Islam is filling void left by collapse of Christianity in UK
The decline of Christian values is destroying Britishness and has created a "moral vacuum" which radical Islam is filling, one of the Church of England's leading bishops has warned. The Bishop of Rochester, the Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, claimed the "social and sexual" revolution of the 1960s had led to a steep decline in the influence of Christianity over society which church leaders had failed to resist. He said that in its place, Britain had become gripped by the doctrine of "endless self-indulgence" which had led to the destruction of family life, rising levels of drug abuse and drunkenness and mindless violence on the streets. The bishop warns that the modern politicians' catchphrases of respect and tolerance will not be strong enough to prevent this collapse of traditional virtues, and said radical Islam is now moving in to fill the void created by the decline of Christianity. His claims, in an article published in the new political magazine Standpoint, come just days after he accused the Church of England of failing in its duty to convert British Muslims to Christianity. Dr Nazir-Ali claims in the new article that Britain, previously a "rabble of mutually hostile tribes", would never have become a global empire without the arrival of Christianity. But he said the Church's influence began to wane during the 1960s, and quotes an academic who blames the loss of "faith and piety among women" for the steep decline in Christian worship. He says Marxist students encouraged a "social and sexual revolution" to which liberal theologians and Church leaders "all but capitulated". "It is this situation that has created the moral and spiritual vacuum in which we now find ourselves. While the Christian consensus was dissolved, nothing else, except perhaps endless self-indulgence, was put in its place." The bishop, who faced death threats earlier this year when he said some parts of Britain had become "no-go areas" for non-Muslims, said Marxism has been exposed as a nonsense but went on: "We are now confronted by another equally serious ideology, that of radical Islamism, which also claims to be comprehensive in scope." Asking what weapons are available to fight this new "ideological battle", the bishop said the values trumpeted by modern politicians such as "respect, tolerance and good behaviour" are "hardly adequate for the task before us". "The consequences of the loss of this discourse are there for all to see: the destruction of the family because of the alleged parity of different forms of life together; the loss of a father figure, especially for boys, because the role of fathers is deemed otiose; the abuse of substances (including alcohol); the loss of respect for the human person leading to horrendous and mindless attacks on people." The bishop added that Christian hospitality has been replaced by the "newfangled and insecurely founded" doctrine of multiculturalism, which has led to immigrants creating "segregated communities and parallel lives". He said many values respected by society, such as the dignity of human life, equality and freedom, are based on Christian ones. But he warned that without their Christian backbone they cannot exist for ever, and that new belief systems may be based on different values. "Radical Islamism, for example, will emphasise the solidarity of the umma (worldwide community of the Muslim faithful) against the freedom of the individual. "Instead of the Christian virtues of humility, service and sacrifice, there may be honour, piety and the importance of 'saving face'." In an implicit criticism of the Archbishop of Canterbury's recent claim that the adoption of some parts of Islamic law is unavoidable, Dr Nazir-Ali said: "Recognising its jurisdiction in terms of public law is fraught with difficulties precisely because it arises from a different set of assumptions from the tradition of law here." He said that the Church of England must retain its importance in public life even if it does not remain privileged as the established church. "It is necessary to understand where we have come from, to guide us to where we are going, and to bring us back when we wander too far from the path of national destiny." Source : The Daily Telegraph Readers have left 24 comments.
wendy mann:
actually what is filling the vacuum is fundamentalist christian doctrine, much of it imported via the usa evangelicals whose extreme interpretation of the jeesus story should be of more concern to the bishop than anything islam has to offer.
the real question is who has given him the green light to create an environment of religious division and incite what is effectively a campaign of religious hatred against muslims.
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2008-05-30 00:14:56
Pity the poor Murtid Archbishop:
As one of those who have studied the treacherous and hypocritical ways of this sick idiot with his pointlessly hyphenated Muslim name, I am aware that his attacks on Islam and Muslims stem from the frustration that he is no longer in a position to re-enter Islam and that the last time he made an attempt to become Archbishop he was publicly humiliated by the media and the government.
Nazir-Ali while competing with Dr Rowan Williams was reviled as a "Paki-papist" and his Catholic antecedents and Muslim ancestry exposed and used against him in what still is a very racist Britain. But hang on---before one blames racist Britain, Nazir-Ali and his fraudulent attempts in selling his "murtid" credentials and in hiding his earlier Catholic adherence (before he became educated enough to realise that the Church of England was not Catholic) must be given the blame. Nazir-Ali is just a chronic failure---a charlatan who thought he could sell himself in England as a murtid pervert from Islam to Christianity but failed , then tried to convert from Catholicism to Anglicanism but failed and has now finally decided to become a follower of Pope Benedict and his brand of Zionist Islamophobia (in which he will fail too, God-willing)---so much for the integrity of this wannabe "Holy" Archbishop. It is no surprise that he now thinks the easiest way to try for the job of Archbishop is to attack the line of least resistance popularised by Cardinal Ratzinger the Arch-Satan, i.e. to demonise and vilify Muslims until this disgusting Attention-Seeker is acknowledged as the saviour of Christianity from its demise for which Oil and Israel but not Islam are responsible.
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2008-05-30 01:58:25
Clifford Ishii:
I wonder how many Muslims will convert to Biblical Christianity in the ME and UK in that time frame?.An how much third world Biblical Christianity will effect the growth of it in the UK since in many places of the third world where Biblical Christianity grows the fastest were former British colonies?
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2008-05-30 05:55:15
Yunus Yakoub Islam:
A senior member of the clergy spreads lies, fear and hatred. Where is the leadership in the Church of England to challenge this self-promoting trouble maker? This man is (mis)representing the Queen's own faith!
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2008-05-30 07:47:11
joe:
why should more Christians help in a counter movement to step the spread of Islam? Both are basically fairy tails ,why not take whats good from both ideas dropping the bad, and make them into laws? and ban all religions, solve all social ills . we could all vote on each law. giving the government and the people the duty to impose social standards by law. what things from each religion would you like to vote out and what things would you keep in?
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2008-05-30 10:30:02
shan:
The man is nothing but a disgusting excuse of a human being in the service of the church.
he is making the church look silly and stupid by implying that since christians are no longer practicising christianity that means muslims will become more powerful in a way. if that is what christian clergy have to offer the people today then do you wonder why people are turning away. I wrote this publicity seeking hate monger and challenged him on his views but he could not be bothered to respond even though his secretary acknowledged my letter. The man is a hypocrite and people like him were aptly shown on goodness gracious me. I wonder what MCB and MAB are doing about this hate filled fear mongering former shia.
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2008-05-30 10:46:56
Sultan (in Oxford):
Assalaam alaikum and Greetings
Should I be surprised that the Bishop said these remarks so soon after the CoE stated that within the next 30 years Britain will become an 'Islamic State'. This was of course was based soley upon the number of worshippers attending Mosques and the number of Mosques, to those attending Churches and the number of Churches. In reality, I can't see this happening when Muslims account for only 3% of the population. But nothing like scare tactics to get the point across. The above article also stated "Today the Christian story is fading from public imagination, while Islam grows apace. There needs to be some fresh thinking in this area where the claims of Christ are sensitively explained. Our church leaders must develop ways of explaining this, as our feature on mission and evangelism this week demonstrates." So, the Bishop does this by attacking Muslims, in the guise of 'radical Muslims' ? So, the Bishop does this by stating "respect, tolerance and good behaviour" are Christian Values forgetting that these too are true Islamic values. The Bishop does this by advocating the active conversion of Muslims into Christianity. Quite a difference between this Bishop and the Bishop of Canterbury (Rowan Williams') who held the view that there was a place for a "constructive accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law" within the British Legal System over such issues as marriage/divorce, inheritance. Perhaps, Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali should ask himself : is he is really following Christ's true teachings of peace and harmony, or whether he is promoting himself by following the current wave of Islam bashing. Wasalaams
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2008-05-30 11:19:26
Colin the Athiest:
I have the answer, get rid of all religions. Then all these pointless arguments would stop and people can get on living their lives without Imams/vicars trying to cause trouble for their particular cause.
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2008-05-30 12:18:09
sali:
its all free speech tho dont you reckon? cant complain about that !!
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2008-05-30 14:39:44
souliooo:
Way to Go Michael, keep on rowing that boat ok!!
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2008-05-30 14:43:37
souliooo:
and dont go listening to the archbishop rowan willaims k
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2008-05-30 14:56:03
Ameen:
Christian Zionism is filling the GAP in the UK:
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=12486
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2008-05-30 22:08:42
M D:
The guy does have a point, christian europe is on the march towards atheism, and Islam is making great inroads. He needs to rally his troops, otherwise the masses will turn to Islam to meet their spiritual needs as most bishops begin to deny the virgin birth. He has to defend his faith against this constant attack against the validity of the christian faith. Goodluck to him, but when falsehood meets truth, falsehood perishes, falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
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2008-05-30 22:16:36
Colin:
MD
What nonsense! The European masses are on the march away from the traditional Christian evil they have known for centuries -in all its sects - but there is no way that they are turning towards the even worse alternative evil they don't know of - Islam. What is on a steep increase in Europe, however, is Muslim immmigration and Europeans have only themselves to blame for that.
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2008-05-31 17:40:36
An open letter to the Rt. Rev. B:
Dear Holiness, I am moved to extreme anger when you are taunted as a “Paki-papist” in your efforts to unseat the rather decent Dr Rowan Williams. However, I am more disheartened when instead of facing up to your critics you turn your other (bum-)cheek to the BNP’s racist thrashing whilst focusing instead on bashing Muslims and Pakistanis yourself. For you being the BNP’s “Lota” is clearly unrewarding and humiliating but whilst you are the laughing-stock of the whole world as a Murtid who is badly stuck with his new religion you have a remarkable lack of insight. Not only that but although you swallow BNP’s insults with the grace of a passive homosexual you do even more injustice to yourself in denigrating Muslims and Pakistanis who have only brought you respect and recognition. Instead of concentrating on Muslims, you should focus on your own flock amongst whom your mental condition hardly carries any respect, as is widely known. If you are desperate may be we can help you revert to Islam. However, if you try to revert after the BNP and the Israeli-lobby have ditched a Holy Lota like you despite your Papistical propaganda policy it will be too late to save you from Jahannum I look forward to your kind response, yours sincerely, A Muslim
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2008-05-31 18:32:10
M D:
MD — ColinWhat nonsense! The European masses are on the march away from the traditional Christian evil they have known for centuries -in all its sects. i said march towards atheism not islam but its certainly a march away from christendom. however, if people like Nazi-Ali dont stir up islamaphobia then theres more of a chance disillusioned christians will turn to Islam rather than Godlessness so the poor guys just doing his job, a lone soldier amidst numerous deserters. May he be guided to islam!
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2008-06-01 12:31:12
Colin:
You know, A Muslim, in your fit of rage, you've got things the wrong way round a little. Bishop Nazir-Ali brings respect and recognition to Pakistanis in ways that foaming-at-mouth-Muslims like you will never do. Why does he, your so-called Murtad - although he was never a Muslim - need police protection, and you don't, and that's in so-called Christian England?
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2008-06-01 15:46:16
shan:
If he brings respect to pakistanis then BNP fights for the rights of all black and asian people by bashing them when the opurtunity avails.
All i have heard from this loser is because muslims are being better muslims this country is being less christian. Instead of blamimg others maybe he should look at his own words and actions,he is a hate filled former shia. As i said before people like him are aptly shown in goodness gracious me.
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2008-06-02 10:52:13
The Murtid's Lota Runneth Over:
Bishop Nazir-Ali brings respect and recognition to Pakistanis — Colinin ways that foaming-at-mouth-Muslims like you will never do. — ColinWhy does he, your so-called Murtad - although he was never a Muslim - need police protection, — Colinand you don't, and that's in so-called Christian England? — ColinHope that helps. You will have to pay me to do this next time, yours sincerely, A Muslim
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2008-06-02 15:43:15
Checkmate:
What this odious man fails to realise is that the British Raj is over, and no one cares what he says. NO ONE CARES!
So Christianity is fading away. Why is that? Its pretty obvious: no right-thinking Global citizen would accept the twaddle that Church-taught Christianity is. Could it be that English people believe that CofE now stands for Comedy of Errors? Dear Nazir-Ali, I have these words of advice for you: 1) get a haircut; you look terrible in that mock-hippie, so passe starggly hair. 2) Get you teeth done; they distract the viewer. 3) Make sure you are not just a 'house-boy' in the Church of England. 4) If really, want to become a Muslim again, its easy: just go your local mosque and convert. The Church will not miss you. 5) Just think you could have been part of a growing religion; instead, by your own admission you belong to a dying Church. How sad: a man who used to support Manchester United, but changed to what he thought was a superior team, but now finds that it is actually Accrington Stanley! Laugh? I nearly cried!
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2008-06-02 18:55:55
Brian Holden:
The Anglican Church and the Bishop can reverse their decline by becoming Biblical Christians.
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2008-06-02 20:38:24
Mr Nazir does it again:
This loud mouth shout be told to shut up. Can someone tell this frustrated ignoramus that the reason for people avoiding the church might be something to do with the endless scandals that rig the entire institution; homosexuality and child abuse is rife amongst these holy men who will stop at nothing to abuse young children. Tell him to concentrate on getting his house in order, and then maybe people will return back to the church.
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2008-06-02 20:48:04
Colin:
You ask - A Muslim - why I believe Bishop Nazir-Ali wins more respect for Pakistanis than foaming–at-the-mouth Muslims like you. Look at your rant again. Here are words you chose to associate with the Bishop: - treacherous - hypocritical - sick idiot - chronic failure - charlatan – murtid – perverts – catamite - insanity – Zionist - foul-mouthed – false – misleading - Satan's spawn.
Two pick out but two of them: Catamite - an usual word I’m sure to MPAC readers – means a pedophile who prefers young boys, for which sin the punishment under Sharia is what? Murtid – more familiar to MPAC readers – means Muslim apostate, for which Sharia prescribes what? You seem happy to pronounce these deadly sins against the Bishop. I challenge you to set out the accusations in a letter to the media [the BBC if you prefer] and see how far you get in a popularity contest with the Bishop. I for one, even as an atheist, would vote for the Bishop from Pakistan any day of the week if you were the foaming-at-the-mouth alternative, even if you happened to be as white as driven snow.
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2008-06-03 00:07:48
Murtads Rule !. OK ?.:
actually what is filling the vacuum is fundamentalist christian doctrine, much of it imported via the usa evangelicals whose extreme interpretation of the jeesus story should be of more concern to the bishop than anything islam has to offer. — wendy mannthe real question is who has given him the green light to create an environment of religious division and incite what is effectively a campaign of religious hatred against muslims. Secondly it is Jesus -- not jeesus Thirdly -- there are no 'extremists' in Christianity -- only Christians. Fourthly --- You ask "the real question is who has given him the green light to create an environment of religious division ". The raison'd etre of the Good Bishop is to cause massive division and draw people away from all faiths --including Islam -- to the love of Jesus Christ , God the Son. Also , was it not a camel-train driver [offensive sentence removed - MPACUK Mod] of saudi Arabia 1400 years ago the REAL cause of 'religious division' today ?
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2008-06-03 00:43:07
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MPACUK Comment: He’s at it again. The BNP’s favourite man of the cloth, Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali is stirring up religious hatred as usual. In a fashion that has become the Bishop’s hallmark he writes in the Islamophobes’ favourite broadsheet, The Daily Telegraph, that Christianity is on the wane and that radical Islam could fill the vacuum. This is in keeping with the Bishop’s modus operandi of making unsubstantiated claims against Islam and then standing back to let hatred increase. The Church authorities should either back or sack this hate-monger.


