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Hearts & Minds: Deny Muslims But Allow Israeli War Criminals Print E-mail
Thursday, 07 February 2008
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The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) said that it deplored the decision and accused the Government of caving in to “unreasonable demands spearheaded by the Tory leader”.

Muhammad Abdul Bari, the Secretary-General of the MCB, said that Dr al-Qaradawi enjoyed respect as a scholar throughout the Muslim world. “I am afraid this decision will send the wrong message to Muslims everywhere about the state of British society and culture,” he said.

The British Muslim Initiative (BMI) described the decision to bar al-Qaradawi, an “eminent scholar”, as “an unwarranted insult to British Muslims”. Muhammad Sawalha, the BMI president, said: “We would have to go as far back as the medieval age when scholars were hounded and vilified in order to find a similar retrograde decision.”

Yet despite their outrage, a far smaller, organised group of Zionists managed to get Qaradawi banned. This was not missed by Qaradawi himself who said, "The Zionist lobby placed huge pressures to block the visa application and Prime Minister Gordon Brown eventually backed that position."

Both groups have failed to mobilise hundreds of their associated mosques or demand more of the very groups they represent, some of which are the most disgracefully backward and incompetent. Blackburn’s backward puppet leaders could mobilise for the then Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw but refused to do anything for Qaradawi.

So-called self-proclaimed ‘emirs’ who run the student Islamic societies, often as backward as Mosque Leaders who run our mosques, also fail to do anything. Most did not mention anything of the campaign against Qaradawi. The very people who claimed to love the scholars were, hypocritically, the least active in helping the great man.

In a fax from the British embassy in Doha, his application was refused, reportedly citing Article 41 of the United Nations Charter, which relates to threats to peace and security.

Qaradawi’s visit prompted protests from Jewish groups and gay people, who regard him as anti-Semitic and homophobic. He has called for the death penalty for homosexuality and the destruction of the state of Israel. In the same year, the cleric defended suicide attacks on Israelis during a BBC interview, saying, “It’s not suicide, it is martyrdom in the name of God." He added that it did not matter if women and children were the victims of such attacks.

The ‘no politics’ group of Britain, the Hizb, helped Israel’s hand in making sure the pro-Israel lobby were not countered in Parliament as Muslims pathetically remained debating minor points of fiqh while those sought to block their leaders from entering the country plotted.

Last week, Mr Cameron clashed with Gordon Brown in the Commons over Dr al-Qaradawi, as he described him as “dangerous and divisive”, and called on the Government not to let him into the country.

“Two months ago I identified and named specifically in this house a number of preachers of hate who should not be allowed into this country," said Mr Cameron. “Will you confirm that the Government has accepted this as well and won’t be allowing Yusuf al-Qaradawi into Britain - yes or no?”

Mr Brown refused to issue a snap decision on the visa application, saying it would be announced “very soon” and insisting that proper judicial processes had to be followed.

To Tory jeers, Mr Brown replied, “In 2006 a decision was made not to exclude him. We are looking at that again. He has applied to come into this country. A decision will be made in due course. It has to go through the proper judicial processes. But he has not been allowed into this country at this stage.”

Today David Davis, the Shadow Home Secretary, welcomed the visa ruling. "Not before time the Government has finally acted after pressure from David Cameron," he said. “The Government's approach to preachers of hate has been at best timid and at worst downright useless. Now it is time for them to take a robust approach across the board."

MPACUK want to congratulate the Muslim Leaders of Britain for doing such a great job for Qaradawi. MPACUK would also like to offer our sincere condolences. We wanted better leaders - we tried, but so far we have failed.

Readers have left 12 comments.
Gordian Knot: Quote

This situation clearly illustrates why the Muslims are making fools of themselves, as well as being made fools of.

Qaradawi should clearly condemn suicide bombing as simply 'murder'. A jealous boyfriend may, in a fit of rage kill his girlfriend; thus we understand why he did it, but we see it and condemn it as murder. So, Qaradawi should have said he understood why people blew themselves up, but that it was still homicide, and what's more, Islamically illegal. Scholar? He? Does he really not know that suicide is illegal in Islam?

Its time these so-called 'scholars' are debunked, and sent back for further study.

Similarly, when the Waffen-IDF bombs Hamas 'terrorists', and in the process kills women and children (even babies), and gorgons of Tel Aviv nod unconvincingly their 'regret', then the BBC, HMG and the world in general should also call it 'calculated murder'. The British Government should thenceforward classify the Waffen-IDF as a 'terrorist' organisation.

Hundreds, perhaps thousands of these 'murderers and terrorists' travel freely between Israel and UK, and gleefully spout forth about Israel being a 'democracy'. I wonder precisely how many of them are entertained, wined and dined by the various so-called disgraceful 'Friends of Israel'?

MPAC should launch a campaign to get the BBC et al, to classify all casualties resulting from the Waffen-IDF action as 'murder'.

And before the vile Zionists leap to the 'defence of Israel, I remind them: if the Protocols of the Elders of Zion a forgery, then so too is the State of Israel a forged concept.
(1) 2008-02-08 11:56:58
Julia: Quote

Yes, Gordian Knot

Condemning the IDF as a 'terrorist' organisation is long overdue. Remember also that huge numbers of so-called 'civilians' in Israel are in fact military personnel due to National Service.

Just because they shed their uniform whilst going for a night out doesn't mean they are cutey cutey civilian babykins! They are and remain still the storm troopers of the vicious Lebensraum policy. Their terrorist (and terrorising) role is absolutely undeniable, if you speak to any human being.

And besides how do we know if the Monsters of Tel Aviv have not repeatedly staged 'Reichstag' events in order to launch yet another land grab?

It's also time for decent Jews to make a stand against the atrocities perpetrated in their name.
(2) 2008-02-08 14:17:54
Musa Evans: Quote

So much for free speech
The decision to ban Yusuf al-Qaradawi from Britain seems to be based on media clamour, not rationality or principle

Gordon Brown's government has finally caved in to the noisy mob who have been angrily demanding that the elderly Islamic preacher, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, should be refused a visa to come to the UK for medical treatment.

Well, so much for free speech. You will recall that during the Satanic Verses and the Danish Cartoons row, British Muslims were repeatedly lectured to about the need to adapt to western notions of free speech. You may not like what is written or drawn, we were told, but as long as it does not break the law, you need to learn to put up with it.

The refusal of the government now to allow Qaradawi in has worrying implications for freedom in a society where voices are now being raised about the corruption of power in the UK.

Qaradawi has been visiting this country for over 30 years now and despite David Cameron's shameless posturing last week in the House of Commons, when he falsely claimed that the former Tory government had banned Qaradawi from visiting the UK, we now know that Cameron himself was in fact working as a special adviser to the then home secretary, Michael Howard, when Qaradawi was given approval to visit the UK. Qaradawi went on to visit the UK five times while Howard was home secretary.

Whatever one may think of some of Qaradawi's views, the way forward is surely to allow them to be aired and then, if appropriate, to challenge them openly. If Qaradawi was to break any of our laws by inciting racial hatred or violence then he could always be prosecuted here. Why do have to be afraid?

The fact is when Qaradawi last visited the UK in 2004, the Board of Deputies of British Jews handed to the police a dossier of Qaradawi's alleged statements and called upon them to prosecute him. It took the Crown Prosecution Service less than 48 hours to decide that there was simply no case against Qaradawi.

The Mayor of London came under heavy fire for agreeing to meet Qaradawi during that same 2004 visit, but to his credit, Ken Livingstone refused to buckle despite the media frenzy and a few months later his office released a detailed report forcefully rebutting many of the criticisms made of his meeting.

The spokesman for the Liberal Democrat leader, Nick Clegg, got it about right when he said: "Many of Yusuf al-Qaradawi's views are repugnant; the job of a truly liberal society is to defeat such abhorrent ideas by arguing forcefully and persuasively against them."

Would those who now accuse Qaradawi of promoting violence also seek to ban George Bush from visiting the UK, I wonder? Or perhaps, they would want us to enquire what the views of all visiting non-British nationals are on issues such as Israel and gay rights, before we allow them in?

The government - and Hazel Blears' Department for Communities and Local Government in particular - has behaved in a very cowardly manner over this affair and its inconsistencies are glaring. What basis can there be for preventing the US black nationalist Louis Farrakhan from coming to the UK while allowing in the French nationalist Jean Marie Le Pen? It seems the deciding factor is simply who has the loudest opponents within the UK media.

It is all quite unfortunate. We should be prepared to defend what are surely some rather important principles. Especially if we believe that they are universal ones that we would like to see spread across the world.

(3) 2008-02-08 16:18:25
Colin: Quote

Julia

Isn't it time for decent Muslims to make a stand against the atrocities perpetrated in their name - once we agree that they are atrocities and not just retaliation against British storm troopers going for a night out on London's tube system - see the Leeeds last will and testament to make myself clear?
(4) 2008-02-08 16:49:44
Onlooker: Quote

I am always fascinated by the language used by people on this website.

The Waffen SS were the German army's most elite soldiers and had a reputation for being fierce and at times mass killing civillians. Its quite clear that you are trying to draw comparisons and it is rather silly. The SS never apologised for killing civillians whereas Israel always does.Furthermore the IDF has never ben part of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Palestinians as if they did they are doing it very badly.

Ironicaly, it is the Islamicised societies of the middle east that have more in common with Nazi Germany than Israel where freedom of speech and religion (especially of Chrsitians) is regualrly supressed with state sponsored violence.


In the case of Qaradawi his views are extremley out of line with the views of most people in the UK. Aside from his position on Israel, his backward views on women and homosexuals contradicts the liberal society that has been built here and therefore he has no right to come here and make such comments.

Should an Israeli solider be convicted of a war crime by a recognised legal court then he should also have his freedom of movement affected. However just serving in the IDF doesnt make someone a war criminal by default as many of the posters here seem to think.
(5) 2008-02-08 19:03:54
Dishan ullah: Quote

And what has the opportunistic MPAC done, how successful has it been in mobilising Muslim opinion?

Thats right, its gone on the BBC's 10 O'Clock News and happily took part in Mark Easton's Islamophobic report on the Archbishop of Cantebury's remarks. MPAC is a disgrace. It couldn't get MCB to condemn him, so resported, and because you people are so thirsty for publicity, you became the rent-a-quote.
(6) 2008-02-08 22:14:01
azaad: Quote

Musa Evans

Agree with everything you say, but Qaradawi was still wrong to say/suggest that suicide bombing was justified.

There is a difference between saying that you can see how someone was led to blowing themselves (and others) up, and then going on to say that this was acceptable. I can see nothing wrong with the former, but the latter is definitely murder.

Muslims scholars should think more carefully before they make public utterances.

All Zionists should be denied a UK visa on the grounds that Zionism is inherently violent: forcible removal of Palestinians; reckless killing of children; cutting-off of water supplies; ripping-up crops etc are all hallmarks of Zionism. It is the only legalised terrorism in the world today.
(7) 2008-02-08 22:19:57
onlooker: Quote

Musa Evans

Agree with everything you say, but Qaradawi was still wrong to say/suggest that suicide bombing was justified.

There is a difference between saying that you can see how someone was led to blowing themselves (and others) up, and then going on to say that this was acceptable. I can see nothing wrong with the former, but the latter is definitely murder.

Muslims scholars should think more carefully before they make public utterances.

All Zionists should be denied a UK visa on the grounds that Zionism is inherently violent: forcible removal of Palestinians; reckless killing of children; cutting-off of water supplies; ripping-up crops etc are all hallmarks of Zionism. It is the only legalised terrorism in the world today.
— azaad


Seeing as most Jews are zionist in some way or another, are you suggesting that the UK prevent all Jews from entering the UK?Sounds a bit Nazi like to me. I would also be interested to know how you would enforce this? Perhaps we can ask people if they are 'practising' zionists?

And if we are talking about preventing entry to people who believe in violence, reckless killing of children etc Im gusessing most supporters of Hamas, Hezbollah and other Islamicts regimes should also be barred?
(8) 2008-02-09 08:55:54
johnson love: Quote

Remmeber Britain is control by Zionist! Just look at the people who are financing the Parties! Also, we should remember, these MP's dont care about British People never mind the Peace and Freedom loving people of Palestine! Remember three British Nationals, James Miller, Tom Hurndall and Ian Hook were Murdered in cold blood by the Zionist Terrorist and not a single MP condemned it! Remember the Zionist Terrorist Attack on USS Liberty, the american's were silent! This is a war between Civilised people againist Evil Zionist!
(9) 2008-02-09 20:38:52
azaad: Quote

onlooker

Yes, I would ban all those who seek to use violence to achieve their aims. Along with those you mention, this would definitely incriminate the entire Israeli establishment. Israel could not have been established without violence, and its existence cannot be guaranteed without violent oppression of Palestinians.

Israel: a fiction based on fictitious Scripture.

Why not De-Zionify Jews, just as Saddam's monsters have had to be De-Baathified?
(10) 2008-02-09 23:42:59
al: Quote

What a load of lies being projected!! The Muslim world has nothing in common with the Nazis, it is an established FACT that zionists were in bed with is anti British scum Nazis. Especially as the roots of Christianity is Palestine, Jews were ritualistically slaughtered in the Middle East by zionists. No amount of blame shifting will change facts. The false flag attacks as seen in London, N York & so on are easily proved as was the USS Liberty, Apartheid & the German disco.
(11) 2008-02-10 18:37:01
A Different Colin: Quote

Wow, quite a few off topic posters. But here is my take, for what its worth. al-Qaradawi has proved to be an anti non-muslim, gay, women, Jew, radical who approves of suicide bombing. The fact that he wants to come to the UK for medical treatment means nothing. There are plenty of other countries that could provide the treatment, are there no Islamic countries? He is a poison. He is a non-UK citizen and therefore has no automatic right of entry.
(12) 2008-02-11 21:23:36
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