Brown's plans for a Police State - the struggle continues... Print E-mail
Thursday, 08 November 2007

jihadlogo.jpgLondon MPACers are continuing their quest to empower the Muslim communities to defend themselves in the face of discriminatory legislation.

Since 2001, a whole host of draconian laws have been passed by an authoritarian government intent on undermining all of our civil liberties.

Whilst Muslims rightly feel targeted by this legislation, the wider public have been drawn into a false sense of security, that these laws are needed to protect everyone from fanatics hell-bent on destroying our way of life and that these laws will only be used on “Islamic Extremists”.

Whilst Muslims are the catalysts for the appearance of these laws, every single person in the UK is at risk of falling foul of them. As recently as this past summer, activists protesting at the environmental damage caused by the air industry at London’s Heathrow airport, were arrested under the Prevention of Terrorism Act.

Yesterday's Queen's speech should have had alarm bells ringing in our ears, although the Home Secretary Jacqui Smith is playing coy that the aim of the Government is to introduce an increase in the limit that people can be held without charge from the current 28 days to 56 days. Pressed to give the Government's position on how long the current limit should be extended by, she refused to specify a figure. "The answer is I don't know," she told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

  It is a fact that the Labour Party tried to extend the limit to 90 days in 2005, but faced a severe backlash from its own members in Parliament, and thus recorded an embarrassing defeat to the otherwise undefeated record of “Teflon Tony”.

According to the Government's own statistics and figures, a substantial proportion of those arrested for terrorism-related offences are released without charge. Therefore, does it make any sense to increase the period of pre-charge detention, subjecting innocent persons to lengthy incarceration, without any shred of real proof?

Instead of these policies making us feel safer, we feel more collectively under attack than ever before. The anti-Muslim feeling that has been allowed to fester has manifested itself within a general Islamophobic outlook. Unprovoked verbal abuse and hate-inspired violence against the Muslim communities is on the increase. Muslim women particularly suffered, some having their headscarves ripped off and abuse hurled at them, Mosques being firebombed, Muslim males with beards are viewed with contempt and suspicion and even our Mosque Imams have been hospitalised after being brutally beaten.

We Muslims cannot allow ourselves to wallow in victim mentality. This is not a time for self-pity, nor is it a time to be paralysed by fear. The worst possible scenario is beginning to unfold before our very eyes. We as citizens in this country are being transformed to passive victims paralysed by fear. We are playing into the hands of those who champion the “global clash of civilisations” theory. We are letting them win if we accept to be demonised, to be shown as caricatures and let suspicion towards us rise.

We have been campaigning tirelessly to work with our Mosques, to help and assist wherever we can to ensure that we are in a position to defend ourselves when we find ourselves under attack.

We have constantly stressed that our Mosques have to be the hub of the community. It’s not just a place of prayer that we visit on the odd occasion, but should be the focal point of our communities. Alhumdullilah (Praise to Allah) that thanks to London MPACers, more and more Mosques are willing to defend their own rights and that of their congregation and wider community.

The unrelenting spotlight that we find ourselves under provides us with a wonderful opportunity to be proactive. If the slightest of gestures is noticed and symbolised, Muslims need only resolve to make the symbolism positive. This intense scrutiny provides tremendous educative potential and, ironically, might even be the Muslims greatest asset in countering prejudice.

The onus is on us to make it so.

What are we going to do about it?

Maybe you’ll send a letter to the Police Commissioner?

Or write an article in your local newspaper?

Maybe you’ll tell your local Imam and ask him to alert the congregation to the news?

Or maybe you’ll join the London MPACUK team and get involved in our pre-emptive lobbying campaign where we are currently engaging local mosques to petition their local MPs to ensure that the detention without trial time limit is not increased, that the encroaching anti-terror legislation is curtailed and that stop-and-search is not used to vilify and single-out Muslims.

Would you like to walk with us, as we defend the rights of your fellow Muslims?

Contact us at info@mpacuk.org to join MPACUK in campaigning against increasing the maximum limit of pre-charge detention.

Get involved and help our mosques to get active so that we can make every mosque into an institution for the instruction of all our religious affairs including the one which demands that we seek justice in ourselves and in our community.




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Readers have left 14 comments.
Taloot Bhana: Quote

MPAC often tends to label our Mosques as institutions; distribution centres and authorities that seek to take on the job of the local council's whom (may I remind you)we pay a good sum of council tax to every year to clean up the loose ends of our society. I think the focus should be on our local councils getting their acts together and providing us value for money services rather than be suspicious, scrutinize or be critical of religious activities/commitees/members/ meetings/agendas etc of our Mosques. We asked for community centres and we have got them. We cannot now try and convert our mosques into community centres. your philosophy is all wrong.
(1) 2007-11-08 23:32:05
Venceremos: Quote

Excellent piece for which you should be applauded, MPAC editors!

Yes, it is time for people to stand up and be counted, not just Muslims but all those who hold dear freedom to their hearts.

We must stop going the way that Nazi Germany did.
(2) 2007-11-09 00:04:05
Zesto: Quote

We must stop being like Israel who are under constant threat from terrorists.

Our love for life and freedom from the fear that our train or bus might explode is the greater freedom affecting the greater number of people.
(3) 2007-11-09 07:58:03
shan: Quote

The people of britain understand what is happening is a concerted campaign by this government take our rights away using the boogey of terrorism.
when i talk with them,they say we lived with 30 years of I.R.A terrorism and we had the laws to deal with them,so the same laws can be used now.
(4) 2007-11-09 11:30:59
Zesto: Quote

The people of britain understand what is happening is a concerted campaign by this government take our rights away using the boogey of terrorism.
when i talk with them,they say we lived with 30 years of I.R.A terrorism and we had the laws to deal with them,so the same laws can be used now.
— shan


No, we need better laws. IRA was in one place and infiltrated by UK spies. The bomb cells were low tech.

Because we had no laws of extended detention on terrorist related offences so we got the injustice of the Brimingham Six where innocent men were found guilty because they were fitted-up to get a conviction.

Having longer means we can deal with the international terror diemnsions that use computers, mobile phones and encryption.

The 'same laws' won't do.
(5) 2007-11-09 14:38:57
shan: Quote

ZESTO the zionist chameleon says the i.r.a were in one place.i never knew america-europe and the south americas were one place.
the bomb cells were low tech so using fertiliser and gas bottles has become high tech.
the i.r.a used sophisticated weapon systems and bomb materials,they used mortars to attack heathrow airport and 10 downing street.
they nearly killed the british government in brighton,were the hotel theyu were staying in was blown up.
as i said before do not patrionise us with your twisted logic,i.r.a were low tech bomb cells,thats why 3500 people died in the violence.
so at least you admit police stitch up innocent people.
(6) 2007-11-09 16:06:03
Pir: Quote

Zesto:
I would like to challenge you to an open debate(maybe mpac podcast?.)Let's see whether you're being paid to post your rubbish on mpac.
(7) 2007-11-09 20:39:40
omar: Quote

im glad there s enought open minded people in Parliment who are against this proposal... question time last night had a good discussion on this

i mean there has never been any evidence from ANY of the terrorism cases that an extention to 56 days is necessary!
(8) 2007-11-09 21:52:43
Zesto: Quote

Zesto:
I would like to challenge you to an open debate(maybe mpac podcast?.)Let's see whether you're being paid to post your rubbish on mpac.
— Pir


Why don't you get MPAC UK to create an open debate thread and I'll be there.

What subjects would you like to debate?

I assure you I'm not paid to 'post rubbish on MPAC UK' - which leaves you with the possibility that I am either paid on the basis it isn't rubbish - or that I'm not paid.

I'm sorry if I am too prolific. It does look a bit one-sided. Its not done on purpose. Its just that I have a lot of interests in the areas addressed by MPAC UK.
(9) 2007-11-09 21:59:46
Mohsin Beg: Quote


The problems which are being experienced in the British society is self inflicted. The government brings on these problems on themselves :

1.Always meddling into the affairs of the middle East :

2. Always imposing their democractic values on other nations which aint feasible given the cultural differences and context !

3.The War in Iraq and Afghanistan !

4. Unilateral support on all American foreign policies and sanctions etc.

5. Pretending to ACT like a World superpower, and yet it isnt !. The Chinese or the Iranians or the North Koreans or the Russians would feast us out !

We need to focus on the World from the prospective of becoming a world ecomomic power, technologically.

We need to stop intervening in other countries affairs. When you intervene in other people;s business expect the inevitable.

We need to stop giving unilateral support to the USA, only where the UN gives it full support.






Gone are the days where it had the Military might.

(10) 2007-11-10 23:09:28
Colin: Quote

In the UK,Muslim citizens are just as vulnerable to indiscriminate terror as non-Muslim citizens are. After all, evern in Iraq, where there are hardly any non-Muslim citizens, something like 100% of the citizens that the insurgents kill and maim are Muslims, and the death toll at the hand of Muslims is far higher than the toll at the hand of non-Muslims. It's ironic that even here in the UK, the chance of a Muslim being blown up by another Muslim is far and away greater than the chance of being blown up by a non-Muslim. So come on, lets have less nonsense about where the threat is from!
(11) 2007-11-10 23:46:59
Zesto: Quote


The problems which are being experienced in the British society is self inflicted. The government brings on these problems on themselves :

1.Always meddling into the affairs of the middle East :

2. Always imposing their democractic values on other nations which aint feasible given the cultural differences and context !

3.The War in Iraq and Afghanistan !

4. Unilateral support on all American foreign policies and sanctions etc.

5. Pretending to ACT like a World superpower, and yet it isnt !. The Chinese or the Iranians or the North Koreans or the Russians would feast us out !

We need to focus on the World from the prospective of becoming a world ecomomic power, technologically.

We need to stop intervening in other countries affairs. When you intervene in other people;s business expect the inevitable.

We need to stop giving unilateral support to the USA, only where the UN gives it full support.






Gone are the days where it had the Military might.

— Mohsin Beg


After Dr Bari's latest outburst you will find that the consensus established by public comments is that problem with Britain is that it pays far too much attention to a voiciferous religious minority and has been too keen to suggest it might listen.
(12) 2007-11-11 16:53:08
azaad: Quote

I don't understand why the 28/56 (well why not make it 365) days detention without trial isn't used in cases of international drug running/human trafficking/pedo rings/money laundering/and organised crime in general? Are these not 'international'? Are they not highly complex? Do they not use computers?

Oh, silly me, I should know: its because for those crimes disproportionate numbers of white people may be detained without trial!

And, THAT will not do. Because? Its a breach of their human rights.

Muslims (code for non-whites) don't really have human rights. They are are not really human. Are they?

End this racist thought process. NOW!
(13) 2007-11-13 14:11:10
Zesto: Quote

I don't understand why the 28/56 (well why not make it 365) days detention without trial isn't used in cases of international drug running/human trafficking/pedo rings/money laundering/and organised crime in general? Are these not 'international'? Are they not highly complex? Do they not use computers?

Oh, silly me, I should know: its because for those crimes disproportionate numbers of white people may be detained without trial!

And, THAT will not do. Because? Its a breach of their human rights.

Muslims (code for non-whites) don't really have human rights. They are are not really human. Are they?

End this racist thought process. NOW!
— azaad


The answer is very simple. The crimes you refer to are able to be investigated prior to and after an obvious stream of evidence. Most of these crimes are by Englich speaking people and often involve infiltration and stings. You only discover money laundering by its proof of transaction. That is, the felony/crime has or is taking place.

Planning terrorism has a point of devastating consequence (death of many people) and since the planning may well be carried-out across international borders and foreign languages then it has a consequence. You can let some drug smuggling take place and no-one gets killed. You can't let a terrorist bomb go off to prove you are right.

Sometimes you have to arrest to prevent a plot before you have all the evidence together.

Why not call for an end to racism from UK Terrorists in targetting mostly non-Muslims on the transport system, or targetting youngsters at a night club.

I know you will tell me that "non-Muslims" aren't a race (just as Muslims aren't a race either). Remember, "White" Muslim converts have been guilty of terrorism.

Muslims in the UK are White, Black and Brown(Asian). WHat single race is that?

Muslims don't have Human Rights only in Muslim countries. Islamic/Arab countries refuse to sign up for the UDHR (Universal Declaration of Human Rights) as requested by the UN.
(14) 2007-11-14 07:55:45
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