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Friday, 13 April 2007

276813_newspaper_job_section.jpgIs this another ploy to brand Muslims as trouble makers when no British Muslim has come out calling for this? Why are divisions still put up between Britain's nearly 2 million strong Muslims and the rest of the community? Who really has the problem? And is it a case of 'divide and rule' by the Department for Education and Skills?

The story goes that a Government backed study has revealed schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils. It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial. There was also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques. The findings have prompted claims that some schools are using history ‘as a vehicle for promoting political correctness’.

The researchers gave the example of a secondary school in an unnamed northern city, which dropped the Holocaust as a subject for GCSE coursework. The report said teachers feared confronting 'anti-Semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils'. (again note "Muslim problem" with no evidence?!) The report said "...the same department deliberately avoided teaching the Crusades at Key Stage 3 (11- to 14-year-olds) because their balanced treatment of the topic would have challenged what was taught in some local mosques." i.e. the implication being Mosques teach unbalanced history!!!

The report concluded: "In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship."

So, whose problem is it? And why is the blame always put at the door of all things Muslim? Just as ludicrous stories of piggy banks being banned by banks for fear of offending Muslims, not to mention the stories of Christmas decorations being banned (again because of Muslims!) as well as the proposed renaming of the story of the "Three little pigs" a move which was branded "bizarre" by MCB's Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra! Is this a clever government paranoia scam to make the Muslims the "enemy within" in the public eye?

The Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) taught tolerance and respect for others (i.e. allowing the Christians of Najraan to pray in the mosque in Medina) , so we must do the same: rise up and say WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HISTORY SO LONG AS IT ISN'T REPEATED AGAIN..today, around the world our brothers and sisters are facing fear, oppression and raping of their land…Muslims know more than anyone else the true meaning of oppression.

Surely this Department of Education research is symptomatic of the problem with the super politically correct left, so left that they become right wing (so New Labour) in their bid to create an integrated British state ! DON’T BE FOOLED…make sure our young Muslims know the truth and aren't caught out or used as scapegoats by government policy to make the Muslims the fall guy. SAY NO TO PC MADNESS!




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Judge Dredd: Quote

Yes but.......Yes but…..Yes but….

The computer says……”dunno”

1) What is Anti-Semitism?

2) It was the Christian Europeans who perpetrated the murder of the Jewish Masses so what has their crazed guilty conscience got to do with British Muslims and their Muslim brothers and sisters who are being murdered in Muslim lands by the European Christians and Zionists?

And who is educating the European Christians now about the baby-eating monstrous Muslims.

A few opinions on the above:

It is true that Anti-Semitism is a good friend of the Zionist Fascism.

What does this mean though - that the definition of Anti-Semitism can be engineered to anything that the Fascist Zionists like and thereby classify a Muslim who says that Israel is wrong or Zionism is wrong as an Anti-Semite?
IF you think this is a gross fantasy check out the definitions of Anti-Semitism and how new definitions are in the pipeline as suggested by member states of EU.

Who is it that is drumming up all this nonsense about Muslims being anti-Semitic anyway - as far as I understand, the offspring of the Abraham (PBUH) were all Semites and so this includes a vast number of Muslims - how can they be anti-Semitic if they are Semites?
If we were to apply the "Jewish Race" propaganda nonsense principle to the children of Abraham, then all Muslims, whether Asians, Caucasians, Europeans, Africans would be Semites. I.e., practically the whole world is of the SEMITIC RACE!

Onto the question of who is drumming up the Anti-Muslim sentiment and the fantasy that the Muslims are anti-Semitic:

I flatly believe that it is the people who define themselves as of the "Jewish Race" who perpetrate this:

My personal opinion is that there is a low population level of those who identify themselves of the Jewish Faith and a high population level of those who identify themselves of the Jewish Race in Europe and the US. The opinion supposes that the man-made thing called Zionism has followers whose hearts have no fear of God yet find themselves "racially" Jewish. The opinion supposes that there are large numbers of them and their number is proportional to the support of Israel and the degree of Islamophobia and self-interested and self-perpetrated Anti-Semitism in Europe. Think about how these principles help the Zionist.

I have often heard citations that there are low numbers of "Jews" in Europe (estimates of a few hundred thousand in each EU member state). Infact, when some pollsters conduct their research it is difficult for them to pinpoint someone of the "Jewish Race". Indeed most of the East-enders I know who identify as of Jewish Race look outwardly like the native Anglo Saxons. Faced with this problem, the pollsters rally to the God Fearing Jews with good hearts who are of the "Jewish Religion" group and easy to identify by way of their worship of God (i.e. attendance of religious institutions). It would not be surprising to find a difference in the views of those claiming to be of the Jewish Race (if they would openly identify themselves) and those others who have good hearts and fear God and claim to be of the Jewish Faith.
It would be very interesting to determine the numbers of "Jewish Race" within Britain and other EU states. This could potentially go towards explaining why there is such strong Zionism in Europe. As for the US, one could conduct similar research there too if it was allowed by the masses.
I make the distinction above as I believe that there are a large number of seculars who like to call themselves of the "Jews" but identify with the "RACE" rather than with the "RELIGION" of Judaism. Those identifying with the Race would hardly be picked up in a population survey.
It would be interesting if there were a correlation between the numbers of Zionists and the number of those identifying themselves of the Jewish RACE.

Conclusion: The two groups, namely Muslims and the ancestors of the Christian Europeans who murdered masses of Jews must not be Anti-Semitic, or indeed apologists for the Nazi Israeli actions.

But a distinction needs to be made between Israel, Semites, Jewish Race and the Jewish Faith. And more importantly the definition of Semites must be universally accepted and not only by the two parties in the Zionist Alliance, namely, the European ancestors of those who murdered the Jewish Masses and the so called RACE of Jews who have their own interests that are then used to murder innocent Muslims in Muslim Lands!

As for Ruth Kelly, she is after votes and good on her for selling her soul if she is happy with that. She won’t get my vote though. Neither will Labour ever again!
(1) 2007-04-14 09:58:24
Thoughtful: Quote

Blaming the muslims for something they had nothing to do with such as the holocaust, slavery and the crusades taps into the growing anti-muslim hysteria amongst white people so the hysteria continues and muslims continue to be targeted.

Black people have been complaining for years that black history has always been taught from a white and not black perspective and yet this has continued for years without fear of offending black people.
(2) 2007-04-14 11:41:49
ROB: Quote

I think muslims would be the last ones to object to the holocaust being taught in schools,this is the secular extremists using muslims as a scapegoat for their own wishes and actions.
the pathetic daily mail stopped printing readers comments after i sent them a email shattering their lies and propaganda.
if the holocasut is taught ins chools it will show who the mass murdering intolerant bigots really are,instead of trying to label muslims.
it is up to organsiation which reprsent muslims ti take up these matters,when no independet survey ahs been done by anyone into this question then how can anyone make such comments and get away with them.
if i was to say white christian men say that being told paedophilia is wrong offends them,so in future we will not say paedophillia is wrong,will the government take my word for it and issue guidelines to say in future you cannot say paedophillia is wrong.
(3) 2007-04-14 12:28:03
Rick B: Quote

Now I know why I don't read the tabloids - they're full of propaganda.

Let's teach everyone about the Holocaust and the Crusades - two shameful episodes in European history.
(4) 2007-04-15 10:58:20
wendymann: Quote

I think what is clear from the article is that the decision not to teach the crusades or the Holocaust was not by Muslim parents nor their children but by the teachers.

What should be observed is the manner in which the report has been written to identify this as a Muslim issue rather than one of the teachers.

The interesting thing is putting aside the US and THEM reporting that the implication is that dissent and the questioning of these issues is not to be entertained. Surely in a democracy people are allowed to have free thought to challenge the perceptions that are considered to be the 'norm' . Isnt it the duty of teachers to take on board those perceptions , to challenge those perceptions and provide the information, the 'facts' the evidence ? Isnt it the duty of teachers to cause people to think about their views and perceptions?

This report appears to be more about the Govt. wanting to control Mosques, Imams and the Muslim communities into behaving like 'uncle toms'.

Finally why is is that for Holocaust denial you could find yourself in prison, that laws are required to enforce a belief that follows only one script?

Challenging the 'facts' or the 'evidence ' as proscribed by vested entities is not necessarily a denial of the Holocaust nor a bad thing in our schools, it can also be a start for scientific rigor, social, cultural and religious understanding and provide an entry into the mindset that sought to dehumanise minorities.

In that context maybe all would benefit from an education that would teach how history is repeating itself, except at this point hatreds are directed towards Muslims, and that some of those previously oppressed , subjugated under the Nazis are now the oppressors and deniers of Human Rights..
(5) 2007-04-15 16:57:49
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