i hate this moron along with the idiot who got arrested they talk rubbish and takfeer anyone who diasgrees with them and they are ignorant for saying mpac are pro-government!!!! They dont represent me!! mpac are far more representative of me and community i live in.

I can't really comment on the bootlicker aspect - but I do know that Asghar doesn't think very highly of Jack Straw - The dog.

As for the arrest of Abu well that I disagree with and as much as I initially thought the guy was loud now I look at him as a Brother and he has my respect.

The Police in general are nothing but a bunch of liars and hide behind their positions and uniform. Take the West Midlands incident ACC Shaw makes a statement yesterday that and refers to Community Cohesion and that he is listening to the community - but I'll tell you now he like the rest of them listen but they don't register and they don't act. The community are now saying these arrests were made due to comments made at Ghamgoul Sharif Mosque after the funeral of the dead British ethnic soldier - where his brother was boasting that his brother was a martyr and a group of the brothers disagreed with that statement and he then made up a story to initiate the arrests of those who have been arrested. And one of the 4500 exhibits is a small bottle of TCP.

Now you can understand why certain Muslims in Britain feel so sad and angry.

I am stupified by what this man just said on television. I find that extremely shocking how a muslim could criticise another muslim like that. He should be ashamed of himself!

Although i do not personally know asghar bukhari i became aware of him during the last elections.

i would say asghar bukhari is more beneficial to the muslim community at large when dealing with non-muslims then mr anjum chowdhary is.

personally i would request anjum chowdhary to remember not to label evryone else as apostate as it maybe that he is wrong and thus becomes a apostate himself.

there are 3 forms of jihad, the first to stop wrong with your hands,secondly to speak against wrong actions and thirdly to hate a wrong action in your heart.

since we are living in a non-muslim state the first option is limited to us when it comes to foreign policy therfore option two is what we should be doing.

option one is pheasible if you are going about your daily business and you see someone being attacked if you can stop it with your hands do so or go for option two and call the police or relevant authorites if you cannot.

Never would've thought A. Bukhari would be called a boot-licker... this is typical of Almuhajiroun - they straight up lie about other Muslims - bunch of filthy liars.

May Allah save the Muslims from people like Choudhry and his ilk. By what principle of Islam does he dare declare fellow Muslims apostates? I disagree with the approach Bukhari has taken on some issues but accusing him and the MCB of working against the interests of the Muslim community and accepting money for this, is extremely shameful. The fact is that their actions do not corroborate your shameless and un-Islamic accusations. However, your actions, Anjum Choudhry, a shameless liar, make one draw a logical conclusion: the way you are benefiting the BNP proves that you are on its payroll. The way you and your ilk are harming the Muslims and benefiting Tony Blair and the way you have been given the freedom to spew venom against non-Muslims and even burning the unionjack proves that you are an agent of the establishment.A WORD TO THE READERS: Please for God’s sake do not start defending this poison tongued uncivilised man. He is bent upon inflicting maximum harm upon the Muslim community. Mr Deen's arrest was long over due. It must be followed by Anjum Chaoudry's arrest.

Man, he has no adaab ......

This idiot does not seem to think nothing of calling someone Kaffir. He hands it out like he's giving out sweets.

Correct me if I'm wrong but anyone who calls a Muslim a kaffir, is himself a Kaffir according to the Quran.

I hope these people get some sense.

Choudhry and Izzadeen are nothing more than two loud mouthed fools who seem to manage to attract the media whenever it is necessary for a Muslim voice to speak out. They are deluded morons who would do better to be either in prison or in a secure unit for the mentally ill. If anyone is an agent of Blair it is these two, not Asghar Bukhari.

I have met many good, practicing Muslims over the years but have never heard any speak as these two do. They are a disgrace to Islam. They should be ashamed of themselves but sadly they suffer from the sin of arrogance. They should be ignored and silenced before they do more damage to Islam.

After hearing this interview it doesn't show the general public a very positive light as to the muslim community, due to the way this man speaks of another representative of the muslim community in such a manner. I am a non muslim, but majority of my friends are muslim, and they advise me that taking a life of another is not in the Quran? So why are there so many innocent people killing themselves as suicide bombers, then people claiming that they are now martyrs, when in the quran from what I've read along time ago states that Allah created all man and religion to live and be neighbours to one another on earth? However the people who are encouraging murder or suicide and saying they are bringing the religon out mst be going against what Allah has written in the Quran? I would appreciate if someone could give me an explanation to what I am saying as I may not understand? Thank you a non muslim

This goes to prove that MPACUK are not the extremists but that they are trying to give muslims an alternative to the insular and extremist voices that so often court controversy in the media. Bukhari has done more to combat extremism than the government and as for the allegation that he is a government bootlicker, I laughed so hard. If anyone has seen MPACUK on TV they know that what they are saying is basically what a lot of Muslims are feeling which is definitely not favourable to the government. Choudhary is the kind of person who is leading our youth astary. Lucky most people recognise the dead end he's trying to lead Muslims down.

ROB: what you call the third form of jihad being "hate the wrong action in your heart" is FALSE; and if it's FALSE, it's Zionist.

The Prophet (saws) said "la ikraha fiddeen" i.e. there's no hatred in religion. What the third form states is that you SAY in your heart that it's wrong and ask allah to deal with it. The purpose behind this is that at least that you recognise that it's wrong and that it should be dealt with.

You seem to be linking "hate" with Islam - a Zionist method.

To my mind, Anjum Choudry is a victim of Zionism - he was fed FALSE information and was made to feel that he should defend himself.

Another point is the way the videocast was presented - one who seems to be supporting terrorism, is being defended by another member of the Muslim community; then another Muslim is denigrating the terrorist supporter which forced Choudry to insult his fellow Muslim brother.

All in all, the programme makers managed to get us Muslims to fight each other and the likes of ROB are adding to the pot fuelling friction between Muslims - another Zionist method of destruction.

My advice is to stick to "Truth and Justice" and constantly remind the Government that lies were read out in Parliament and used to FALSELY justify an internationally illegal war against Iraq.

Until the 90's, there wasn't any major disharmony between Muslims and other people in this country.

Perhaps there was some racism aimed at the "hypocrisy of immoral Arabs living the high life on oil money", there was horror at the excesses of Wahabism and the Death of a Princess debacle, but mainly (if they considered Muslims at all) British people thought of Turkish Delight adverts, Lawrence of Arabia and Rudolph Valentino. Stereotypes, but harmless.

Now Muslims have their backs to the wall. Despised and distrusted. Of course part of this is due to paranoia and ignorance on the part of the public. Part of this is due to Al Qaeda psychopaths, but a lot of this is due to creeps like Choudary, OBM, Abu Hamza and Omar Brooks.

Like it or not, these people get the headlines.

Whilst it's easy to see that most Brits aren't NeoNazis, Islamic groups need to show the same distance and disgust towards the Muhajiroun morons.

Applaud the arrest of these creeps. laud it as cathartic. Thank the police for finding them and jailing them.

But moan about a "police state", then who will spot the difference between Muhajirounies and you.

Anjum should be congratulated for speaking the haq. Mpac r jus bunch of apologists who's main aim is to pls the british government. Its so clear to see as the sun is in the middle of the day. Everytime this Asghar comes on tv he never mentions any ayah or hadiths and Anjum is right its the same whether u listen to him or Tony Blair. As they both speak from their whims and desires. Asghar Bukhari has done many kufr acts, namely supporting openly kufr ideas such as democracy (Sovereignty for man) which totally contradicts Islam. Also his call for the arrests of muslims. Imam Tabari(Allah have mercy on him) Said the one who assists the disbeliever against the believers even with a word then he is kafir. And many times we've seen him call for muslim arrests. So Anjum cant be blamed for making takfir. He's jus calling it as he sees it. Allah also says that the jews and christians will never be pleased with the muslims until they change our deen. It seems like the kuffar r very pleased with Asghar on this board. Tells a whole story by itself.
PS: I'd be surprised if they post this as Mpac love to be looked as the heros of Islam by only posting those in support of them.

Salaam. Oh Muslims wake up! Wake up to the governments agenda! Ask yourself why did the sky news presenter ask Anjem what he thought of Asghar? What's the intent behind such a question? Why ask such a question? It was simply to get a reaction which creates more divide between us. Yes i disagree with the way Anjem went to the extent of calling him apostate, this is exactly the type of arguement between us they wish to initiate. He should not have fallen into the trap of denouncing Asghar in such a public manner. He should have refrained from commenting. They want a conflict within us. The truth is when these two brothers (Anjem and izzadeen) say certain things they say it out of anger for foreign policy. We all share the same sentiments including the british public, and are angry with whats happening around the world. As muslims dont we also share the same sentiment for Shariah, is this not what the Prophet(saw) brought us and established in medina? What the british government wants to do is to associate such pure islamic concepts only with a minority of muslims ie the anjems of this world, thereby creating fear for it in the minds of the non muslim and also to draw muslims away from such concepts. they are playing the politics of fear. Let us advise our brothers of their mistakes, but not disassociate ourselves from such concepts as global ummah, caliphate and shariah, even though we may disagree with Anjems approach. Also to the non muslims i ask you to wake up to the governments agenda! They are trying to create fear in your minds, while demonising the muslim community. You have nothing to fear from us. Islam brought peace, stability and prosperity to the world and all its citizens for centuries. We have solutions to the social, economic and political problems of this world. But the governments of this world dont want to see an end to their exploits, their imperialism and their corruption. They wish to continue to subjugate the masses around the world, with their capitalism. They know that it is only islam which can bring back justice to the people of this world. You should not think that the muslims are angry at you the people, but rather it is the western governments and its policies and its interference, which people around the globe are fed up with.

Absolutely disguested at the comments by Izzadeen & Choudry.

Br. Asghar Bukhari is not a hypocrite and is wrongfully accussed of being one by such a foul biggot. Utter absurdity !

I hope brother ASghar will reply to this fool on this website in a statement or something.

It is very serious to accuse someone of being a murtad! I don't know what planet people like Amjum are living on, but to say that Asghar supports the Bliar regime is laughable! It just shows how extreme they are!

No one should stand in the way of Asghar- he is a champion in publiciing our Islamic causes and concerns..
Brother Bukhari- you carry on and we continue to back you.

The Whaabis are the real problem of the West (who actually cretaed Wahaabism)
What you reep is what you sow

WHO MADE HIM THE JUDGE OF THE MUSLIM COUNCIL???? SUCH STUPIDITY,

AS THE PROPHET (SAW) SAID AT THE END OF TIME RELIGIOUS KNOWLEDGE WILL BE DEPARTED FROM THE RIGHTEOUS AMONG THE MUSLIM I.E. THE SCHOLARS

MPACUK are not beyond criticism, of course - no one is. But is this the issue here? Few would deny Anjem and his mates talk twaddle. MPACUK are independent of government and generally do a great job. I sympathise with Asghar's view that Izzadeen is "nutty", yet I doubt Izzadeen poses much of a threat to anyone. Let's face it, he might as well go round with a flashing sign on top of his head, stating: "MI5 are following me!" But the timing and manner of his arrest - on the street in broad daylight - begs questions about the links between the governments war on terror and its efforts to distract attention from its own problems, especially coming as it does on the back of the scurilous Whitehall briefings that accompanied the recent Birmingham arrests. This is the real issues, not MPACUK's reputation, despite this example of their unfortunate tendency towards solipsism.

It's hard to tell the difference, he spews the same hatred and filth as MPAC.

Abu Shadeed, from your post, I'm guessing you weren't brought up in Britain. That's fine, it's just that if you were, you would probably know that most British people deeply distrust those who constantly quote from their personal 'book of truths'. Whether it's Christians quoting biblical scripture, Communists reeling off the sayings of Marx or Mau, or Muslims trotting out parts of the Quran, if it's done too often, people - quite rightly in my view - switch off. Now, you say that Asghar Bukhari 'never mentions any ayah or hadiths'; maybe that's because he knows the people of this country far better than you do. Maybe also he can think for himself.
You also accuse him of 'supporting openly kufr ideas such as democracy [...] which totally contradicts Islam'. If you do indeed live in this country (I'm assuming you're not writing in from elsewhere), why would you want to live in a country that is so wedded to the democratic model? We all have differences of opinion regarding individual policies, but if you have such a serious problem with the whole concept of democracy, why live here? Every day must be filled with frustration and anger for you, living in a place with 'man-made laws', where the rights and equal status of non-believers are protected.
You also quote Allah as saying that 'the jews and christians will never be pleased with the muslims until they change our deen'. It seems very much from where I'm sitting that Muslims like you (and I believe you are, thankfully, in a small minority) will never be happy with non-Muslims until you change OUR 'deen'.
Well, that's not going to happen, so if you really to want to live in a Sharia utopia, then why not be brave and follow your heart: go in peace and and find your true homeland - elsewhere. Just please take Anjem Choudary, Abu ('Trev') Izzadeen - and all the other nutjobs who hold their country of residence in such contempt - with you. It'd be better for you, better for me, better for community relations - everyone's a winner.

id just like to remind all those who are attacking anjen choudary/abu izzadeen or even asghar bukhari that you calling them 'filthy liars' 'kaffirs' and what not...you're doing the exact same thing that mr choudary did...so what makes you any better. stop being hypocrits...stop giving into the zionists and allowing urselves to hate one another. i dont appreciate what he said....but then again i sometimes dont agree with everything MPAC have done.

stop attacking one another.

MK: However, your actions, Anjum Choudhry, a shameless liar, make one draw a logical conclusion: the way you are benefiting the BNP proves that you are on its payroll.

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No, the Muhajiloonies don't NEED to be on the BNP's payroll. Both the BNP AND the Muhajiloonies want ordinary Britons to become more Islamophobic, either to facilitate ethnic cleansing of Britain's Muslims (the BNP) or to drive Britain's Muslims into their arms (the Muhajiloonies).

is it any wonder why we the muslims are a laughing stock when we can not stand up and work together as one ummah the zionist media will be having a field day this is the kind of thing that is stopping the ummah from being united as one until we can do that we shall never get anywhere if we start playing the blame game.

Just a bunch of loud mouthed idiots always puting their foot in their mouths - oh and that includes Bukhari along with choudry, izeddin, bakri.

ANY IDIOT WHO THINKS THAT WAHAABISM IS THE REAL PROBLEM FOR THE WEST (AS WELL AS BEING CREATED BY THE WEST) IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER FOOL/NUTCASE/IDIOT.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WAHAABISM. Wahaabism is just a term created by the neo cons/zionists to create hatred and division amongst the muslim population, a tactic which seems to working well. Its a case of divide and conquer; look at what is happening in iraq to see how successful this strategy can be.

My family follow Islam according to what is written in the Holy Quran, and the teachings of the Holy Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), and not some pir/fakir. As such we consider ourselves muslim, ahl-e-hadith muslims if you wish to pigeon hole us.

Wahaabism/wahaabi is used by IGNORANT BRAHELVIS/MUSLIMS, who hate non brahelvi muslims and do not consider them to be muslims, to beat us with a stick and blame all of Islam's ills on us. These IDIOTS should be ashamed of themselves for allowing themselves to be fooled by this Islamaphobic propaganda. I am not saying all brahelvis are ignorant idiots, or that hatred of non brahelvis is part of their beliefs.

As for reaping what you sow, those muslims who partake in this sort of hatred of fellow muslims, will also reap what they are sowing.

Those IGNORANT IDIOTS who think that the problems facing muslims today will disappear if 'so called wahaabism' is dealt with, need to face a certain reality. That is, 'AS SURE AS NIGHT FOLLOWS DAY, THE POWERS THAT BE ARE GOING TO COME AFTER US'. Don't think that 'I am not a wahaabi, so they won't touch/arrest me', or that 'I keep my nose clean and don't speak out about the injustices we face, so they won't do anything to me'. The cold and harsh reality facing us all is that they are going to come after us all, one by one. So, unless we unite and speak out against the injustices we face, we are all in serious trouble.

When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

Dear Reid
May I congradulate you on the excellent job you're doing.While the pressure was building up on me in relation to the 'cash for honours' scandal, it was very ingenious of you to come up with the terror threat in Birmingham. And I especially love the way you created conflict between the Muslims. I almost laughed my self to death when saw all these Muslims calling each others kafirs, hypocrites and idiots on the MPAC site.
For your excellent job, I will support you in your bid to become the next Prime minister.

yours sincerely
Tony Blair

Readin the above comments about one muslim from another muslim "liar , Kaffir" No wonder the Muslims are being butchered around the world. Im sure if Tony blair or someone else ( who by the way instigate wars with muslims and supply armour to the real kafir) , made these comments about a muslim .. then im sure ALL of us would say ...ahhh never mind he doesnt know any better! and turn the other cheek yet if one muslim makes a wrong or ambigouse comment then we wish to chop his head off ! I wonder who are the real hippocrits. We all are learning and I do know we wish the best for Muslims and everyone and for sure we all makes mistakes .. SO !!! rather than flinging dirt at each other .. why not take best of each other and say Alhamdulillah . ws

Katrina:
I am stupified by what this man just said on television. I find that extremely shocking how a muslim could criticise another muslim like that. He should be ashamed of himself.

yet if we look a little closer to home we will find that asghar and other mpac spokesspeople are not too shy to crticise other Muslims. what goes around comes around!