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UK Allows Zionists to Kill Palestinians - Are We Allowed To Defend Them? Print E-mail
Thursday, 23 November 2006

He grew up in suburban north London and still misses home comforts like milky British tea, the friends he left behind and the local pub.

But yesterday Joe Wainer joined an elite Israeli army unit, and now he faces the prospect of active service in the occupied West Bank. The 19-year-old, one of nine young Britons who have signed up for a programme that recruits foreign Jews for the Israel Defence Forces, realised his life had changed when he fired an M16 rifle for the first time in training.

"When it comes to fire the gun, it's one of the biggest shocks," he said. "The smell of the gunpowder, the kickback. It's what you don't see in the movies."

The soldiers, all of whom will have dual nationality, are part of a wave of migration to Israel from western countries including Britain, France and the US, as fewer Jews arrive from regions such as the former Soviet Union.

The British recruits, who arrived in the summer when the war with Hizbullah was at its height, believe the Jewish state needs a show of solidarity.

Training began in September, when they spent a week sleeping in tents, learning to obey orders and doing endless press-ups. A two-day test involving running uphill while carrying sandbags decided who was fit for combat roles.

Mr Wainer, who grew up in Barnet, was selected to join Nahal, a reconnaissance unit currently deployed in the West Bank. Nahal soldiers shot dead three Palestinians last month in what the Israeli army said were counter-terrorist operations. Some Israelis have refused to serve in the West Bank or Gaza but he does not share their doubts.

"If it's a job that we have to do, then I have to do it," Mr Wainer said. "Israel has always been under attack. Without the army, there would be no Israel."

For now, the six young men and three women, who are all taking Israeli citizenship under the Garin Tsabar programme, which recruits foreign Jews, live in Sasa, a kibbutz on the border with Lebanon. The hilltop settlement of low-rise concrete buildings became a rear base for the army during the recent war. "We were shooting missiles from the foot of this kibbutz," said Danny Young, 19, another British recruit, pointing from the crest of a hill down to a line of yellow scrub marking the border. "We were also receiving Katyushas [rockets]. Some of them landed in the fields over here."

To the right of the slope is a reminder of another war, the cloud-capped peak of Mount Hermon, part of the Golan Heights that Israel annexed from Syria in the Yom Kippur war of 1973.

Mr Young grew up in Southgate, a north London suburb, and misses the pub, his mates and the 24-hour Asda.

His new home remains geared up for battle. In the evenings, armoured cars clatter along the pathways and there is a constant buzz from a factory making bulletproof vests and vehicle armour.

On Tuesday nights, a bomb shelter is converted into a nightclub, where Israel's foreign legion drink lager and sing karaoke to a soundtrack which includes Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldier.

Mr Young, whose grandfather fought in the British army in the second world war, will serve in the paratroopers. He left Britain because he felt he had to hide his identity, quitting a job at an Essex bus garage because of anti-semitism. "They would be Nazi saluting. On toolboxes, they had written stuff like 'Essex Nazis'. It was done as a laugh, making fun, they'd be saying 'Jew' in German. They didn't know I was Jewish at first, but I didn't like being in a community where I felt I had to put things away."

Mr Wainer fell in love with Israel during a gap year. "There's something very mystical about it," he said. "It's the ancient Jewish homeland. It's where it all started. This is where Abraham was and where Moses fled to.

"There's a feeling of togetherness that England really lacks. There's a lot of different groups in England and they're all at each other's throats."

This British contribution to Israel's defence is tiny in scale, but provides a morale boost. "It's not about the number of people, its about the intention," said Dafna Brenkel, an Israeli soldier who mentors the British group. "The idea of people from overseas showing support and love for Israel, giving up their daily comfort, their home and their usual way of life, is an amazing thing."

Joining the army is a rite of passage in Israel, a formative experience in which friendships are made. For foreign Jews, it can be a shortcut to integration. Mr Young said: "When you join the British army, you're joining just to be in the army - it's a profession. Here it's part of the way of life."

In their spare time they watch DVDs of the US mini-series Band of Brothers on a laptop. Mr Wainer said: "I haven't quite experienced the part where somebody's leg is blown off. Hopefully we never will. But they really are a band of brothers, and that's what we are."

Jeevan Vasagar
Thursday November 23, 2006
The Guardian




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Readers have left 9 comments.
Shazy: Quote

Of course anyone may go and join the Palestinian forces, and fight for them. Tens of thousands already have over the last 8 decades.
The British government has never forbidden anyone from joining a foreign army. However, the British government also makes clear that if you do join a foreign army you cannot expect the British government to come to your aid if you get in trouble. (Read your passport)
If you join an irregular armed force, that is an armed force which does not belong to a recognised state, then you lose all protection from the Geneva and Hague conventions and you may find yourself subject to prosecution for criminal acts.
I have included the relevant section of the 1979 protocol.
Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol 1)
Article 47.-Mercenaries
1. A mercenary shall not have the right to be a combatant or a prisoner of war.
2. A mercenary is any person who:
(a) Is specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;
(b) Does, in fact, take a direct part in the hostilities;
(c) Is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party;
(d) Is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;
(e) Is not a member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict; and
(f) Has not been sent by a State which is not a Party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces
(1) 2006-11-24 08:52:57
George: Quote

Am I allowed to take up arms and fight against the ongoing occupation of Britain??
(2) 2006-11-24 11:40:57
Kathy: Quote

It is common knowledge that if any Briton of Palestinian, or for that matter any other Muslim country of origin, were to say they wanted to go to fight for the country of their forefathers, they would be immediately be called terrorists or Al Qaeeda recruits. There are two rules of law in this country, one for Muslims and the other for non Muslims, be they Jews or even ex British soldiers who sell their services to countries in times of conflict (Mercenaries).

Of course there is nothing to stop anyone from going to fight on the side of the Palestinians, Iraqis, Lebanese or whoever but be warned you may find yourself on holiday in Cuba at Guantanamo Bay after your return home. This Government of ours has double standards running right through the middle of it and will never believe or understand the logic of Muslims wanting to fight for or with their brothers and sisters.
(3) 2006-11-24 11:42:46
JAB: Quote

They are, apparently, becoming Israeli citizens, but will they be forced to give up their British citizenship, or will they be allowed to maintain dual citizenship?I think this is THE vital point here. These people should be made to renounce their British citizenship.The same goes for anyone else wanting to fight for any other foreign force - including, in my view, the French Foreign Legion. You cannot be a British citizen and enjoy the rights and protection that affords and then go off to fight with foreign forces.
(4) 2006-11-24 12:11:10
A jew: Quote

More appropriate Title for the article:

British Born Jewish Terrorists go to israel to kill palestinian children and women.

I wait for the day it becomes illegal in this country to support Israel, like its illigal to support Al Qaida.


To do this we have to remove zionist, Israeli supporting politicians and have more politicians who accept the truth that is Isarel is an Illegal state. Then we will see things like this comming to a stop and Arms being provided by our government, biased reporting in the Media, and wars will end in middle east. This will happen one day and Biritish Muslims will be part of this. But before then we need to set aside our differences and fight the Zinosts together, our enemy.
(5) 2006-11-24 13:24:22
RSD: Quote

JAB
Multiple nationality is legal in the UK and it has long been recognised that this exposes some UK citizens to conscription in other countries. UK recognises that individuals can have multiple loyalties.
If the British were to change this, the British Army would have to stop allowing Commonwealth citizens and the Ghurkas from joining its ranks.
The MOD & Crown Agents market the services of British military experts (mercenaries) to other countries.
Were there to be a change in the law then any UK Muslim young men that go to fight alongside their Muslim brothers elsewhere could be stripped of the citizenship and denied entry to UK. Also possibly anyone seeking to recruit UK Muslims to fight overseas could also be stripped of their UK citizenship.
(6) 2006-11-24 13:40:21
Chuck Smith: Quote

An it is alright for the west and the rest of the world to embrace,pratice,and spread Biblical Christianity as a counter to Islam.
(7) 2006-11-24 17:58:16
David: Quote

I live in North London and have come in to contact with a number of people who have done military service in Israel, though not all have been Brits. It has always struck me that such areas of London (Golders Green, Hendon etc) may well house more than a handful of war criminals. With this in light would it not be an idea to start some sort of 'Role Of Shame' whereby anyone who has served in this dispicable 'Defence Force' could be named and shamed, perhaps even with accompanying photographs? I dont see why these people should be allowed to go over to Palestine, carry out Lord knows what gruesome acts then return to live amongst us as though they had done no wrong. I really believe that we should make more of a noise on this issue.
(8) 2006-11-24 21:38:28
Shazy: Quote

There have been issues about non-native Jews fighting in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict since the 1940's. But the reality is that Jews who have not lived in the area for a number of years simply do not get to join the front line combat units because their Hebrew isn't good enough. This guy joined Nahal unit, which is a kind of pioneer unit. It wasn't one of the elite units certainly not an Egoz or Dudevan unit nor from either Sayaret Golani or Givati.
The non-Israeli Jews usually end up in support units at best.
As for non-Palestinians fighting for the Palestinians, there have been non-Palestinian combatants since the conflict began. These have included people from around the Muslim world, and "volunteers" from a number of other states. In the 1948 war former British soldiers fought alongside Arabs on both sides.
(9) 2006-11-27 08:41:54
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