|See, There Is No Israel Lobby|
|See, There Is No Israel Lobby|
|Saturday, 23 September 2006|
We would like to apologise to all the Warmongers, Anti-Ceasefire camp, pro-war camp, anti-Islam camp, anti-Muslim camp, Zionists, Israel Supporters, terrorists, extremists, fascists, right-wingers, Neo-Cons, Tony Blair, well pretty much everyone who doesn't believe in the existence of the British Israel Lobby for exposing you for hijacking our countries foreign policy, which promotes hatred/war/injustice and who can forget the rejection of the ceasefire in Lebanon. Still don't believe in the Israel Lobby, well open your eyes and be ready to be shocked (no, not by Israel's carpet bombing). p.s before someone throws the accusation of anti-semitism of the logo of LDFI, MPACUK didn't do a photoshop job, but we got it from their website.
Liberal Democrat friends of Israel
Even A Blind Person Knows The Existence of The Israel Lobby, but what is stopping you in seeing the existence of the Israel Lobby? Fear of being called An Anti-Semitic? If you think now is worse give it a few years when everything and anything on the issue of Israel & Zionism will be anti-Semitic.
Readers have left 24 comments.
These lobbies are like a cancer. It's very interesting to see the reactions of Blair and Co. to the Muslim MP's who stated that foreign policy is a problem. Blair and his lackeys made statements that British foreign policy should not be influenced from abroad. So what the hell are these lobby groups doing? Holding tea parties? Don't kid yourself. Foreign policy, particularly Middle-East policy is influenced by groups like these. Just ask Tony Blair's special advisor to the Middle-East, Lord Levy.
(1) 2006-09-23 10:58:37
The whole thrust of MPAC is to "help yourself"; people can start by joining a political party.
Articulating their concerns and positions both with the party of their choice.
We want is a just settlement in the Middle East not a one sided imposed peace which will consign another generation of Israeli and Palestinians misery and hopelessness.
However, we as individuals should search within ourselves to find the strength to confront our laziness to start on this path. No one else will do it for us. So get you £15.00 ready and join the party and with this you get to choose who you will lead your constituency.
(2) 2006-09-23 17:00:17
See "There is NO Israeli Lobby"
(3) 2006-09-23 20:24:20
Guard the Guards:
Please all note that by travelling to Palestine, you must pass through Israeli Immigration at the airport and at the illegal checkpoints before proceeding through to Palestine. Every time one of you does this, you get an Israeli Visa on your passport, this legitimizes the state of Israel and by extension, you recognize it as a legitimate state. All be aware of this and act according to your conscious, are we helping or hindering the legitimate struggle of the Palestinian people by travelling to Palestine.
(4) 2006-09-24 14:51:49
Guard the Guards:
Who benefits from this, certainly not the Jews in occupied Palestine, definitely not the Palestinians or the Arabs as a whole? Let us look into the real causes of who gains; we already know who lost and who is going to lose in the final analysis. Who occupied Palestine before the persecuted Jews were shipped out to occupy this area? Who put the Jews there at the cost of Palestinian lives and homes? Who protects, supplies arms, funding, provides moral and political support? The answer is not bad boy USA. Time we really looked into this more deeply.
(5) 2006-09-24 14:57:35
salam It is quite sad but emerging politicians such as Sayeeda Warsi have been promoted by the Muslim Ummah, however they let us down by joing their respective "friends of Israel".Why do we bother?
(6) 2006-09-24 16:38:55
..and to think Ming Campbell was the one to draw attention to Britains' involvement in US arms to Israel!Now is the time to protest!Forget Labour and Conservative..we always knew they were corrupt as hell, but LibDem..that is quite something, given their apparant sympatheies for Muslim causes in the past(Iraq war..support for Bill on Incitement to Religious Hatred etc..)Contact the LIBdem HQ..Ming, himself, if need be, and show our disgust at such blatant support for institutionalised racism and oppression!The world and his wife know what tyrants the Israeli 'state' represents and for a Liberal party that has clearly displayed 'concern' for the Governments' support for State Terrorism , this is out and out HYPOCRASY!!We are witnessing yet another demonstration of realpolitik in the form of 'party funding'!Yes, the Zionists have money, but are MORALLY bankrupt and have lost all credibility in the eyes of the world..Lebanon was a real eye-opener for many!The LibDems will not take too kindly at being accused of double standards! Party politics is all about exloiting the weaknesses of the opponent! This particular party enjoys the status of being 'middle of the road' and prides itself on offering an alternative to the sleaze and corruption of the world of British politics.They will also not be too delighted at the propspect of losing out on the Muslim electorate either!Perhaps they foolishly believed that the Muslim community(and those who oppose brutal regimes) would not notice their new-found 'allegience' to State Terrorism..well NOW is the time to make our views known!
Perhaps we should be now showing OUR allegience with parties such as RESPECT who seem to value democracy and are inspired by political figures, such as, George Galloway, who confront core issues with frankness and honesty.. a far cry from the reality of mainstream politics!
(7) 2006-09-24 22:09:52
I take it that MPACUK is so firmly against any form of lobbying. Why then do you have an article proudly stating that the "Arab Labour Group" have been lobbying the government to change its foreign policy. For that matter why did MPACUK release a statement that they would like a new "ethical" PM. Isn't that lobbying?
Or is it maybe that MPACUK is only against lobbying if it is done in favour of Israel?
(8) 2006-09-24 22:54:39
What A Bull Dog:
First of all what a name. I think this suits you for blindly following Israel's crimes against Humanity.
What is better a foreign policy based on the great Ethics of Judaism, Christianity and Islam or a Foreign Policy based upon Murder, Rape, Starvation, Creating poverty, Terrorism.
I can take it your opting for a foreign policy which justifies the killing of innocent people.
If Jews were being murdered like the Palestinians, what type of Foreign Policy would you like? A foreign policy which turned a blind eye upon Millions Jews, Gypsies etc and will turn a blind eye murder and rape?
Give me an answer from the Talmud, does the Talmud, Bible, Quran justify turning a blind eye to those who are being murdered? I can tell you as a Muslim and as a Chair of my inter-faith group, no they do not.
(9) 2006-09-24 23:56:42
Check out the photo galley on the conservative friends of Israel. Go to CFI RESEARCH then Downloads then Photo Gallery. You will see a long collection of ugly faces.
(10) 2006-09-25 11:26:23
???? i am surprised.
(11) 2006-09-25 12:54:09
CORRECTION to GUARD: YOU DO NOT REQUIRE AN ISRAELI STAMP ON YOUR PASSPORT WHEN ENTERING ISRAEL - YOU CAN ASK FOR IT NOT TO BE ON YOUR PASSPORT BUT INSTEAD ON YOUR PROVISIONAL VISA, A SEPERATE PIECE OF PAPER. FYI - I AHVE TRAVELLED IN AND OUT OF ISRAEL MANY TIMES AND HAVE NO STAMPS IN MY VISA. JUST EXPLAIN YOU MAY BE TRAVELLING TO A COUNTRY WHERE THIS STAMP COULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR YOU.WSLM.
(12) 2006-09-25 16:51:53
Jenny Tonge has been disciplined AGAIN for speaking out against Israel - this time for daring to suggest that the Israeli Lobby (who don't exist of course..) have got a grip on her party. Apparently such honesty is classed as 'anti-semitism' these days. Why on earth would someone who is passionate about the plight of the Palestinians want to be in a zionist-infested political party like the Lib Dems I wonder? Maybe her career comes before her principles.
(13) 2006-09-26 18:37:03
Libdem's Ming a friend of Israel!! How come then he is to confer next month with Khatami the Iranian politician who has regularly praised the Hizbollah's Nasrallah - the man who dragged the Lebanon into his private war with Israel - to the 'warming sun which warms up all oppressed Muslims'?
Try pulling the other one.
(14) 2006-09-26 19:18:07
Colin: It's called hypocricy!A little bit like George Bush visiting a mosque after 9/11 to show his 'solidarity' with the Muslims..ROFL!As for Hezbolloh, please remember a certain Nelson Mandela was branded a 'terrorist' by Margaret Thatcher of all people..now the man's a hero!One man's freedom fighter...I think perhaps you should do some reading up on the Palestinain and Lebaneese plight from a neutral perspective. You could try John Pilger,or rense.com for example, to gain a better understanding of their struggle.It is far easier to critisize and condemn when you have never tasted the hardships of their everyday life!FYI most of what the media have reported on Hezbollah have been lies or fabrictaions. If you really want the truth you will go after it, instead of mimicking Zionist propaganda!
(15) 2006-09-26 22:50:06
The Jews have a superb talent for propaganda and one has to respect that.
That their high IQs and their multiple talents have made them most influential in the West is not surprising.
What also does not surprise one is the increasingly strong distaste with which they are viewed by non-politicians, non-millionaires and the man in the street.
(16) 2006-09-27 14:34:28
Neo-Conservatives have full control of America and plans for more wars is no secret. The Conservatives recently stole the elections in Mexico and are now trying their best to con Canadians into giving Conservatives full power in Ottawa. They are conservative in preserving established traditions , not unlike the social movement in Judaism that accepts moderate adaptation of religious ritual and traditional forms in NWOrder to change the framework of modern life to fit their chainlike bondage circles.
(17) 2006-09-27 18:41:20
Of course there's an Israel lobby, and in the United States, too, big time! I used to work in the Israel lobby. They were plotting and scheming all the time.
(18) 2006-09-27 18:50:06
To Zara. I admit that I did invite you to pull the other one, but really! Do you seriously suggest that I study first, Jeff Rense, the ringmaster of the of conspiracy theory circus - the loonier the better; second, John Pilger, whose take on the USA is like watching a hundred Osama videos rolled into one, and third, is it a man is it a cat, no it's the indefatigably courageous George Galloway!
How would you react if I suggested that you go and find wisdom at the feet of Radovan Karadzic?
(19) 2006-09-27 21:17:28
To Colin:You are enititled to your opinions, but I think you will find that with that kind of cynicism,you will never get the chance to make an informed and BALANCED critique of the Western mainstream media, as a whole. Jeff Rense at least takes the trouble to investigate alternative explanations and suggestions to what is really going on in the world.Perhaps you haven't bothered to read in a more broader context and taken the initiative to anaylise what we are being served up on a daily basis, but there are others who are not content to be told what to think by our 'free press'John Pliger is an award-winning jounranilst and has had great many years experience to his credit! I respect those who are not afraid of challenging what is regarded as 'accepted' media coverage and scrutinises the stories behind the headlines, or in some cases events that don't get so much as a casual mention in the news.George Galloway is perhaps a little too bold in his approach at times, but at least he has principles and is not afraid to cut to the chase!This country has been conditioned for so long that anything that may suggest so much as an iota of truth(from non-mainstream), we scoff!Perhaps you could try reading Media Control by Noam Chomsky, you may find enlightenment..depending on how broad your mind is..
(20) 2006-09-27 23:47:02
Why are all Western Gentiles so concerned about being labeled anti semites. This smear has been used so often its beginning to loose its shock value. Don't Westerners comprehend that an anti semite is someone the Jews don't like. Former President Sadat of Egypt himself a Semite was smeared with this label by the Western media.
Personally, I wear the label proudly.
(21) 2006-09-28 15:06:47
Everyone seated? Good......Hold on!!!!...Is everyone enjoying our ride to hell in a handbasket!!!!!!!
As a veteren speaking out against the war,I never knew my patriotism would be questioned. How dare this administration, and the media question those of us who served. Chavez was right Bush is the devil.
(22) 2006-09-28 15:24:56
Colin: That is positive obstinance and there are times when being stobborn is a necessity.Some say that I am stubborn for challenging some cultural mannerisms and attitudes of certain elements of the male Muslim soceity; cultures that are, in part, against the very fabric of Islamic teaching and origin.This is something I try to encourage other Muslim women(and men)to be mindful of at all times. You cannot fix the world of its ills,but you can start to make a change by speaking out!If you take a look at the discussions on this forum relating to women issues, you will see a couple of examples of women having been refused access to mosques in order to perform thier basic act of worship. You may also note that there are some Muslim men who impose their own local customs and traditions based on cultural dogma.I used John Pilger as an example, not because I believe him to be flawless, but because he is bold in his evaluation and presentaion. This kind of investigative journalism should be encouraged and condoned especially given the current climate of dishonest media culture.In any case, JP was just one example I gave.I did not claim to agree with ALL of his statements made and, for that matter his entire standpoint, but that I find him true in his determination to examine issues and news stories that do not always receive the honest attention and evaluation it deserves.
(23) 2006-09-29 19:39:53
Guard the Guards:
Please all, do not legitimize the illegal state of Israel by travelling to it, do not travel to Israel, otherwise you recognize its legitimacy.
(24) 2006-10-21 15:51:01