See this article, in which William Rees-Mogg claims that our Foreign Secretary was sacked (and replaced by someone much less effective) in order to placate the Americans.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2301799,00.html (7 Aug 2006)

WHEN JACK STRAW was replaced by Margaret Beckett as Foreign Secretary, it
seemed an almost inexplicable event. Mr Straw had been very competent ù
experienced, serious, moderate and always well briefed. Margaret Beckett is
embarrassingly inexperienced. I made inquiries in Washington and was told
that Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, had taken exception to Mr
StrawÆs statement that it would be "nuts" to bomb Iran. ............ Mr Straw
had been fired at the request of the Bush Administration, particularly at the
Pentagon.

Shortly before he was dismissed, Mr Straw went on his charming tour with
Condoleezza Rice, in which they visited his Blackburn constituency.
.......... two explanations. One was that the US Secretary of State was
hoping to protect Mr Straw, as a fellow foreign minister, against the
undiplomatic attack from the Pentagon. .......... found Mr Straw competent
and effective.

............ alternative explanation ........ Irwin Stelzer .........
remarkably good Washington contacts and is probably right. His account is
that Mr Straw was indeed dismissed because of American anxieties, but that Dr
Rice herself had become worried, on her visit to Blackburn, by Mr StrawÆs
dependence on Muslim votes. About 20 per cent of the voters in Blackburn are
Islamic; Mr Straw was dismissed only four weeks after Dr RiceÆs visit to his
constituency. It may be that both explanations are correct. The first
complaint may have been made by Mr Rumsfeld because of Iran; Dr Rice may have
withdrawn her support after seeing the Islamic pressures in Blackburn. At any
rate, Irwin StelzerÆs account confirms that Mr Straw was fired because of
American pressure.

Yesterday the Mail on Sunday went back for a second look at the story in the
light of subsequent events, particularly the Israeli counter-attack on
Lebanon. A US source told them that "Mr StrawÆs views did not find favour in
the White House and its concerns were passed on to the British Government".
That confirms that the Foreign Secretary was effectively dismissed by an
American President.

Here's a comment from ANTON ANTONOWICZ in today's Daily Mirror, August 12th 2006:

"....Masjid-e-Umar....most weekdays, the congregation numbers no more than 80. Yesterday it was nearer 1,000. All men. It was, without a doubt, a show of strength..."

Well now, was he watching and counting at the mosque all week knowing he was going to a good sized article in today's paper?? Or hasn't he heard that Jummah prayers are Farid for men, whilst to go to the mosque during weekday prayers it is not Farid (compulsory) for this. Shows how much they know, dunnit? Oh subtle suggestions like this couldn't have anything to do with brainwashing the general ignorant British public could it?

This just about sums up Muslim thinking and consideration for others.

By daring to support a country which is under siege, Tony Blair is being blamed for the fact that Muslim believe that they have a right to takes others lives without consideration because blowing people up is not wrong and can only be someone eles fault.

I see no other religion or groups supporting hatred and murder!

Wheras others try and work togther. If you are not Muslim you do not matter!

Is it right that a very tiny minority of religious fanatics should be able to dictate, on threat of violence, the foreign policy of an entire nation?
If you can describe the Middle east as "Arab land" then you should also accept that you people reside on "Anglo-Saxon land". Live by the rules of democracy or go live in one of the backward theocracies you so admire.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Our government's foreign policy has already been hijacked but the perpetrators are the Israel lobby. What else explains Blair's and Beckett's moral deriliction in not demanding an immediate ceasefire? Also read the article in this week's Spectator. It highlights the backlash against Cameron for William Hague's comment that the Israeli attacks were disproportionate.

It's strange how Dan thinks by blowing yourself up to kill innocents, it is unacceptable, but killing innocent people through missiles is acceptable. You then have the nerve to suggest Islam is the only guilty religion. Islam has a long way to go before it is close to reaching the numbers killed by "Christians". The fact that Bush and Blair invaded Iraq because "God told them" is fundamentalism. Perhaps if you visit the Country you support strongly, you will see the vicious hatred from Israel towards Arabs and even Christians. Iraq is under siege. Palestine is under siege. Afghanistan is under siege. Lebanon is under siege. You should note that Hizbollah and Hamas only came into being because of criminal aggression from Israel. Your support for Israel must be backed up now, so when China and Russia eventually enter the conflict, you will be on the front lines.

Does Britain have an independent foreign policy? The claim that its foreign policies can not be changed for fear of reprisals is a BIG JOKE. The creation of Israel was the result of Britain’s surrender to the terrorism of Zionists and only a fool or an anti-Muslim bigot will deny that its continued support to Zionist state’s most barbaric acts in the occupied land of Palestine is an open proof of Britain’s cowardice. What was stopping Blair from calling for an immediate ceasefire in Lebanon? Answer: His hope that Israel will finish Hizbullah in a day or two. What has convinced him to call for ceasefire now? Answer: His fear that if the war continues and Israel, despite its superiority in armaments, fails in achieving this goal, Israel and its supporters will have to face humiliation. If Blair and the supporters of Israel want to prove otherwise let them ask Israel to vacate Lebanese and Palestinian territories and return to 1967 boarders.

Terrorism is deplorable and more so when it targets innocent civilians. However, can those bigots who, in response to Muslim leaders’ letter to Blair, have asked, on this site, Muslims to leave Britain and go and elsewhere in the world, mention one single country where the world terrorist no one Bush is not interfering?

interesting report in this weeks new yorker by seymore hersh, who claims that the israeli attack was pre planned by cheney and rumsfeld as a prelude to attacking iran last year and was agreed to earlier this year (blairs sudden visit to the states and olmerts visit to london was the final planning).

it also confirms that blair had been fully advised and would explain his reluctance to call for an immediate ceasefire plus the transfer of weapons.

clearly blair tried to deceive the british public by pretending to not know about it.

so many people are too narrow visioned and it's all based on what you want to believe. If anyone posts a message which does not critisize Blair or does not support open warfare against Israel they are labelled Zionists.

Forgetting for a moment about the tragic death of the civilians what would have been the point of an immediate ceasefire once hostilities escalated? To fight again in 3 months time or 6 months time. In the long term it would have been much worse.

And why pick on Blair, do you really think he has that much influence over the Israelis. What about Angela Merkel, didn't hear too much coming out of Germany which also has a Muslim community, nor the rest of Europe and even very little from the Middel East.

And your own editorial still puts the blame for UK Islamic Terrorists on Blair. Shame on you.

No Al. People are narrow visioned based on what they read in Murdoch's media. Coincidentally, Blair just happened to give a speech to Murdoch's News Corp last week. It was Murdoch and his men who came together with Blair to concoct a nice little story about Iraq's WMD. The media sold the war based on a big lie, resulting in massive loss of live and destruction. Israel rely on Britain for important parts of their military machine. That sounds like leverage to me. If Blair goes on the offensive against Israel now, his lucrative speech opportunities in retirement go out of the window. Blair has never put the British people first. When World War 3 goes nuclear, and millions are killed, I will say shame on you Al for allowing Muslims to become the scapegoat needed for your loss of liberty, nuclear war and huge casualties (millions, but maybe even you and I Al).

MGK if , as you believe , Israel is `defeated` in this war with Hizbulla . I`ll tell what it wont do ? Cry , Humiliation to all and sundrey .I`ll tell you what it will do , learn from it`s mistakes . AS for comparing Suicide Bombers to F16`s ? what is the best age for a suicide bomber 11 or a vintage 12 year old , i read that those British Muslims were about to use their baby , as a bomb ? so is it now 11 or 12 MONTH old`s , that make the best SPLAT . Great comparison

do mpac seriously believe that this "alleged plot" is anything other than a smoke screen. it seems to have come at a v opportunr moment - when pressure is building on blair and his cronies to pressure that fascit israeli state to stop its massacre.

does no-one see the erie similarities b/w this and jean-cahrles de menisez and the 2 brothers in forest gate - both operatons based on credible and real evidence of a current and present danger. the outcome of both was far from that - resulting in the murder of an innocent man and the terrorisation of a whole family.

lets see what transpires a few wks down the line (or not! - as is more often the case) when ppl are qietly released w. no charge but not before publin opinion has yet again been turned against muslims and the fire of islamophobia stoked ever higher!

thats it yassir you read what its say in the papers and the news about the babys used by the muslims you and the rest of the uk this is the kind of things that bush/blair wants you to beleive so you can label all muslims as evil if i said to you and the rest of the uk that i read in the paper that bush and blair said that their is a green eyed monsters coming to take over the world would you beleive them or would you use your own brian and see for yourself that what you read in the papers and see on the news is not always the truth its only what bush/blair wants to do bring down the muslims and islam and bring in the new world oder who are the evil one now.

Add to all this, further unhelpful comments made by the new Labour Party stooges - the Sufi Muslim Council and their man Haras Rafiq who said

"The first thing that we need to do as a community is admit there is a problem. It is like being an alcoholic" (14.8.2006 www.news.bbc.co.uk)

Once again - blaiming the 'muslim community' for the terrorists and claiming that the problem is 'in-house'. I hope the Labour Party Masters are proud of their SMC buddies. It's so much more effective when criticism appears to come from within - labour party hate from muslim mouths!

Hanif , i don`t think you quite understand the principle of A Free Press , which is what we have over here . Too long to explain it now , to he who can only concider following the twisted indoctrinated claptrap spewed lemming like , outside the mosque .The Trueth Hurts .

yassir this so called free press is it the same press that bush/blair used to lie and lie about the war in iraq WMD even the non muslims could see that if that is your free press then like the old saying goes you can fool the people some of the time but you cant fool then all of the time and that is what this goverment is doing making a fool of you.

lhjas

As usual Hanif you mix up the Messanger with the message . Is it any wonder your views are so twisted ?

There is no limits to Bush's ignorance
“You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.” George W. Bush, 'joking' at a Gridiron Club dinner,- Washington, D.C., March 2001


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt, 1912

Yassir

Yes sir the truth hurts

Come out of your shell. You have got us at disadvantage so please introduce yourself.

What is your faith?
What is your ethnic origin?
What is your nationality?
And do you hate Muslims or just Arabs or both?

Await your reply if you do not reciprocate I advice you all to treat this person ss a provocateur and don’t be taken in by his assumed name

In solidarity with all the fairminded people on here note:

The Writing is on the wall

“You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.” George W. Bush, 'joking' at a Gridiron Club dinner,- Washington, D.C., March 2001


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt, 1912

Yassir

Says: 11 and 12 year old baby's when blown up make the best "SPLAT"

As a rule I don’t normally profane but you are one demented profoundly sick psychopathic moron
Your lot are not anti Islam that is just a cover. You are anti humanity.
But hey you are an arseole and you know it.