Please do excuse me, but do you still let your mother clean the house ?

unfortunately it is a sad fact that muslims are preyed upon by both the 'intelligence services' and by the media, we have to live with it, if our own muslim MP's want to detain our brothers for 90 days without trial then what chance have we got??? i feel sorry for these brothers and hope that may allah have mercy on them and their families. I hope that organisations like mpacuk and others will fight for these brothers and publicly critisize the way the police have handled this. no doubt these both have had their lives ruined now with all the media attention making them guilty with no evidence nor trial.

Anjum Choudry is to get his bunch of nutters to protest. oh please. .

Let's be honest they only shot the brother because he was a muslim. had he white, blonde and blue eyed he would be safe. there is terror in london and its the p**s that are terrorising us.

Funny how these raids happened when there was the 7/7 'inquiry', which pathetically labelled the suspicious activity 'failures'.

Nice distraction.

Just wanted to say regards to the update on Mad Mels latest rant at Mpac, I mean is this the only website this old, over infuriated islamophobe has all the time in the world to visit and attack.
She should go get a life instead of attacking people who are trying to speak out for those who dont have a voice due to the rising tyranny of the police.

Dear Mad Mel,

Since its obvious you read this website, I will direct this riposte to you personally.

"If British intelligence is anything to go by, we can only hope the sleeping Muslims of East London will wake up and rise against the tyranny being perpetrated against our youth in the name of combating terrorism."

How is this incitement? If British intelligence is wrong and this family has been unfairly attacked than it is tyranny and we should rise against it by posting on WebPages like this, writing letters to our mp's and writing articles on the issue in order to change it. What’s wrong with that?

Also a few points from your recent article on the New York Post:

"The mainly left-wing media daily pumps out a highly distorted and inflammatory version of events in Iraq and the Middle East."

As opposed to the tainted, biased diatribe you write on the right-wing press. Tell me mad Mel, look at the killings in Iraq and tell me whether is all hunky dory and whether the 'mission’s accomplished'. You’re the one with the 'distorted' view of Iraq.

"The problem lies in a refusal to acknowledge that Islamist extremism is rooted in religion"

Is that not incitement from you? It's incitement like that which sees the rise of Islamophobia. Muslims embody Islam, if you attack Islam, you thereby attack Muslims. What if I asked for people to read the Talmud and say certain misdemeanour’s are inherent to religion? Would that not be unfair? Of course it would be, it wouldn’t be directed at Muslims!

We have had enough of this ruthless witch hunt against Muslims. I call for the resignation of the cheif of police.We must demand a public enquiry as soon as possible.The trigger happy officer and whoever ordered the raids (possibly as a diversionary tactic for media) should be held accountable for GBH and assult with a deadly weapon.I am so angry I cannot put it into words.

why don't they just blame the spy cat that provided the (meaw)inteligence.

Melanie Phillips should be prosecuted for incitement to racial and religious hatred. Why can she get away with blatant xenophobia, racism and Islamophobia?

What are Muslims doing? Waiting for our turn to face a bullet???

If we cannot even object to state terror and violence against innocent Muslims then should Britain not be called 'One Big Concentration Camp' for Muslims??

I am absolutly disgusted at this. This can be my children now or even me.

Mad Mel is just another old poisonous Jew. That's right - she's old, she's poisonous, and she's a Jew. Plenty of them around. As for Muslim youth, they should be encouraged to ignore old poisonous Jews (because they keep on repeating the most boring lies ever) and concentrate their fire on the Police. Certainly the community as a whole should not forget this incident and should push for the Police to explain themselves. We should push for nothing less than the disclosure of the grass who nearly caused the death of another innocent young man. And until this is done, there should be no cooperation with any so-called security services. The police are now part of the problem and the enemy.

Mad Mel - does she actually say anything without getting it cleared by Mossad?

Is she British or Israeli (does anyone know if she has dual citizenship?)

The raids are completely necessary. The police did exactly what they needed to do to protect the great british public from an international terror threat.

AA: This is not a ruthless witchhunt against muslims. The raids are justified and protect the British public. Including muslims.


Bilal: Not co-operating with police / security services would suggest that you support terrorist activity?

Shah: I hate to think that muslims would feel singled out and vulnerable becuase of the recent events. Unfortunately its the islam fundamentalists who are the threat so it will be muslims who are investigated.

Take it from a real Jew, she like so many israelis are as British as a Martian. Yes she should be done for incitement!!

I agree that the police, security service have to do their job and act upon intelligence. Thats what all decent muslims want. We want to catch the terrorists.

But how do you define intelligence?
To me and after what i've heard and seen, if somebody from my neighbourhood called the police anonymously, (And I live in an area where 98% household are non muslims and white and who usually stare at me and my wife because she wears hijab and I wear muslim clothes) saying they are suspicious about me and think I'm going to carry out a terrorist attack very soon, tonight, today. Then does that mean I'll have 250 police come down to arrest me, ram my door down and maybe shoot me, my wife or my child?

Come on muslims stand up. The terroism act has given the government, the police and security service the freedom to do what they will. Sooner or later they'll be knocking your house down and then every muslim will be afraid and feel uncomfortable to act upon their religion.

Interesting that the Zionist Neo-Con, Melanie Phillips (aka Mad Mel) seems to have a problem MPACUK urging Muslims to take peaceful positive action against malicious persecution but she doesn't seem to want her beloved Israeli soldiers prosecuted for murdering British citizens! This is after all the same MPACUK that urges Muslims to partake in mainstream democratic politics. She can't tar all of us with the same brush but she's trying. Typical biggoted Zionist.

The raids that took place by 250 police officers and secret services, was a disgrace. As a white British man let me tell you that those who say it was neccesary to terrorise and shoot innocent people, even though the information was inaccurate, they have inherent racism in them and are islamaphobic from the government, police and public.

All muslims and decent people must demand justice. the family should take legal action against the police MI5 and government.

The Police and government must apologise unconditionally. Pay compansation to the family.

We need to know which police officer shot the innocent man. who gave him the order to shoot. Also who is the informer that the police used, A police officer? public? who ever it was needs to be investigated, and action taken against them.

Unfortuately I have to say Muslims will have a tough time in this country from our institutionally islamaphobic Government and police. Through the terrorism act, which your pathetic Muslim MPs also supported, will be used to terrories your community.

Doesnt Matter if Mad Mel is a Jew or not, she certainly is a zionist supporter of Illegal Occupatoin of Palestine, must rise against her.
There are Jews who are not zionists are against brutal Israel.

Oh dear... It seems like you people lost sight of what just happened. The headlines were full of pictures showing dead civilians killed by the brave Marines in Iraq. Then... POW! Somehow the cops get "Intelligence" that some brown people are making chemical ali bombs. Thus, the brave marines are off the headlines. Nice. Perfect 10 for diverting attention.

Bilal Patel should know that the Socialist Worker's Party, with which is he happy to associate and for the journal of which he is prepared to write, was founded by an old Jew (Yigael Gluckstein aka Tony Cliff), based on the interpretation of an old Jew (Lev Davidovitch Bronstein aka Trotsky in his Fourth International phase of life) of the writings of another old Jew (Karl Marx).

Muslims would do best to avoid Patel and his elderly Jewish inspirers. In whose interest is he stirring up Muslims?

Shah - if he wasnt muslim chances are they wouldnt have been looking to arrest him for being a suspected Islamic terrorist.

Oh I'm sorry Mr 'Abdul Rahaman', I didn't realise that 'Jew' was a dirty word, that stating the obvious fact that Mad Mel is a Jew is an accusation of sorts. Of course, the fact that she is a Jew who supports 'Israel' has got absolutely nothing to do with her poisonous tirade against Muslims. From now on, I shall refrain from calling someone as such, as obviously according to your logic, 'Jew' is such a dirty word. By the same logic, I suppose we now ought to stop calling people 'Muslim'.

Of course I realise that there are lots of people who happen to be Jewish and who are perfectly decent people. Their being Jewish is neither here nor there. But still, Mad Mel is a poisonous old Jew whose hatred towards Muslims is obvious.

If I pray to Jesus (Pease and Blessing Be Upon Him, The One True God) for this young Muslim boy of Bangladeshi origin will you order my head chopped off or kill my family?

It is a sad fact that profiling of Muslims will keep going as long as violent jihadist recruiting and planning remains a murky, quiet communication in social circles between Muslims.

It's good to make the point that the police need to see passed the religion and follow more primitive things...the hand is quicker than the eye...yet they NEED to consider the religion as that is the CONNECTION between those who preach violent jihadism against 'infidels'.

By the way...
Since when is being a Jew a STRONG indicator of being anti-Muslim?

You are ignorant of the human impulse to
profile BASED ON THEIR RELIGION.

It seems by doing that you are CONDONING the same impulse intelligence might be using...

TAZ IF ANYONE KNOWS ABOUT BIGOTTED , YOU DO . A MORE TWISTED SOUL NEVER PUT PEN TO PAPER , BUT ITS ARIGHT , I PRAY FOR YOUR TORMENTED SELF !

Blilalji - if you want to call Melanie Philips poisonous, that is up to you, although I don't think it adds much to the debate (any more than her own shrill tone does).

But if her being 'old' and Jewish is worth pointing out, which you clearly think it is, then I think it is fair to point out that the philosophy to which you subscribe is based on the writing and thinking of three old Jews.

Given what socialism has done to the world in general and the Muslim world in particular (invasion of Afghanistan, deportation of Muslims in Chechnya, Nasserits economic, Baathist secularism and it massacres...) some might suggest that it is also poisonous.

Christian your scarcasm says it all.

It is the Christian church that adorns grotesque drawings by fascists in their temples depicting the religion Islam .

Look at your own house before making pathetic noises.

It is Tony Blair who has killed 200,000 of Muslims which includes children, pregnant women, old & sick. He sends out His Majesty's drag queens/goons to bomb mosques & markets.

The church puts out red carpet everytime the war criminals are entertained at the Vatican to rejoice the sea of blood these criminals are responsible for.

Which butcher gods do you pray to????
You have destroyed Muslim mosques & shrines. What do you think the Christians are doing in IRAK besides killing for zionists & neo cowards??????

Actually many Jews are anti Muslim because they follow Zionism, so whats the shocker there?

The fact that no one can say Jew without them claiming its anti semtitic is pathetic, but shows that they control freedom speech in a far more subtle way then many Muslims who just shout and burmn things.

Muslims should learn from them.

Mr. Goldberg - I merely point out that the founders of Bilal Patel's movement are all Jews, and I am accused of crying anti-Semitism. This is such a contorted suggestion I will not even try to follow it.

Patel seems to think that those Jews who agree with him are 'contingent Jews' and those who disagree with him are 'essential Jews'. As well as wanting to decide who is a Jew, and of what sort, he also wants to decide who is a Muslim (hence the inverted commas around my name).

Perhaps Mr. Patel should tell us whether he is a Muslim, both in his beliefs and in his lifestyle.

"If we cannot even object to state terror and violence against innocent Muslims then should Britain not be called 'One Big Concentration Camp' for Muslims??"

It's hardly a concetration camp. YOU'RE ALWAYS FREE TO LEAVE.

OOPs they did it again....

First the Gov tells us that Iraq has WMDs based on flawed intelligence, then they murder Charles de Menezes because they thought he was a 'muslim terrorist' wanting to bomb London, and now we hear that 2 muslim lads were plotting to bomb the UK and stirring chemicals in a factory supposedly hidden in their basement! What a joke! This flawed intelligence really confirms what we all know. That Britain really isnt all that intelligent... take at look at its literacy and numeracy rates for the western world!

I know what the police are really embarassed about... they found the usual stuff that lies in our homes...yep thats it...garam masala, curry powder, samosa flour and a load of other TRS goodies! LOL

Yes leave, go back to E Europe, then we all will live in peace.

It is very difficult for me to believe that people bring somebody's religion into any sinister happenings. This only happens when the person is of a different religion. No religion teaches violence. The questions doesn't even arise! I cannot beleive that there are people who actually believe that. How dumb can people be? It is time to put a stop to it once and for all. The lady concerned should be sued and should be arrested for inciting hatred. I wonder what would have done if it was a Christian or a muslim preaching hatred. Why is it that we cannot live side by side? All these hate mongers should be relegated to the dustbin of history. Amen