| Anti-War Blogger: Lay Off MPACUK |
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| Thursday, 23 November 2006 | |
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The usual scumbags are out in force to attack MPACUK over the revelation that Asghar Bukhari once imagined that David Irving was an unfairly impugned anti-Zionist, and sent funds to him on that account. Irving is not, of course, simply an anti-Zionist being targeted by the state. Irving is a man who fabricates history in the service of fascism, and this has been proven in a court of law, in a case that he brought as a plaintiff against Deborah Lipstadt (who correctly referred to him as a Holocaust-denier). The messages sent by Bukhari to Irving were politically stupid. The language used about "the Jews" is preposterous. I don't think Bukhari intended to be antisemitic, in fact. Antisemitism is more than the arrangement of words: in its classical phase it was a structure of oppression promulgated through law and perpetuated through various social arrangements. There is nothing like this today: there is, however, a racist, expansionist state that purports to speak for the Jews. Some people who think they're defending Palestine, and start from that axis of oppression, will be open to language and arguments that reflect classical antisemitism. They will also be open to having those arguments challenged, and the fact that MPACUK has repeatedly denounced antisemitism, while Bukhari has denounced Irving's views (which he didn't believe Irving held), demonstrates that this is so. Source: leninology.blogspot.com Readers have left 7 comments.
Mohammed:
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so good to see other pro-palestinian actvisits sincere in their fight against Zionism. It takes a lot to speak out in defence of orgs like MPAC so well done to Lenin's Tomb!
But where are others .... ? (And by this i am looking at our own leaders first!)
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2006-11-23 22:06:51
Kathy:
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Hey, let these Zionists try to continue to speak out against those who know the truth. You never know, they might actually learn something from MPAC one day. If nothing else they might eventually learn that we are sick and tired of hearing or being called anti-Semitic. It is so boring and is their standard answer to everything. Sadly they use this because they are unable to hold up an argument or criticism. When will they realise that MPAC and we who support them are actually criticising their murderous and controlling policies, not their Religion or race. Get a dictionary and look up the meaning of anti-semitism or perhaps it has a different meaning in the Zionist version of the Oxford English Dictionary.
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2006-11-24 12:32:49
aafreen:
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well done Lenins tomb!!! No wonder Harry's Place and Sunny Hundal absolutely detest this guy! Can i also say Islamophobia-watch.com recognised the Observor article for what it was- a stich up!!
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2006-11-24 13:31:49
no to the labour party:
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Big up to Lenin's Tomb for this. He's a top bloke. Bookmark/favourite his site on your browser - it contains some of the best analysis of political developments at home and abroad on the web.
He is Harry's Place's and Sunny Hundal's nemesis.
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2006-11-24 21:23:55
William:
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Kathy, we don't need to look far to find your real feelings about the Israeli Jews- on the thread "Israel lied-again" you described them as " a sub human nation of people" and said"if that is seen as anti semitic, then so be it"
I think it might be seen that way, yes.Why not send Irving some more money in prison- you clearly have a lot in common? Oh and I'm neither Zionist, Jewish nor Islamophobic before you start.
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2006-11-25 10:34:57
Kathy:
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William
If you read my comments properly you would realise that I criticise Zionists and those who support them. My comment on 'Israel Lied Again' was aimed at the fact that women and children were murdered in their beds and yet Olmert tries to make an excuse that it was a technical error. Had the boot been on the the foot, had those women and children been Israeli, then there would have been no excuses either allowed or accepted. Olmert is indeed a moron in my eyes and is leading a nation of people, most of whom support his policies and consider Palestinian lives worthless. People who think that they are the chosen ones and that no international laws apply to them. As far as Irving is concerned, I do not support his ideals. I accept that the holocaust happened but so have many other atrocities and I get sick of having the holocaust pushed down my throat especially by people who are inflicting equally as inhuman abuses on others. They of all people should know what it feels like and yet it appears that they have not learned from their own history. As for the anti-Semitism word, I just get sick of hearing it when Zionists are mentioned. It seems as if it is the only answer they can give to intimidate people.
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2006-11-25 21:53:53
Africana:
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all terrorism is wrong but state terrorism is the greater evil.
Kathy it is good that you can deal with "infantile sulky" posters. it is not your decent humanity that is desired by them. My solidarity to you.
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2006-11-27 15:16:04
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