| Public Comment: "MPACUK Should Not Mention Malcolm X" |
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| Wednesday, 23 July 2008 | |
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As a Muslim and a well-wisher of MPACUK I will request the MPACUK to not quote Malcolm X at random. Escapism and separatism may have been ideals in the struggle against India's Hindu oppressors but they do not apply to the Pakistani community in the UK, here or now. The greatness of religion is that it transcends boundaries of race, caste and tribe. After all, it is only by the grace of God that our ancestors saw the path of Islam or we too would have spent our lives in idol-worship and female infanticide like the rest of the Indian subcontinent. This is true, is it not? The fact that we (and I mean the British Asian minority who run MPACUK) do not identify with the vegetarian cannibals of the Hindutva is living proof of the greatness of Islam which crosses boundaries of race and tribe. Therefore, Malcolm X and propagating "black/white" and "master/slave" dichotomy not only is unjustified and inapplicable but also plays into the hands of the enemies of Islam who would want their Zionism and Islamophobia to be seen in a quasi-Imperialist/Colonialist and Condescending light. Thus following Malcolm X not only serves to expand Zionism's political base it even castigates us Muslims as a disgruntled, anti-white, racist and violent minority ( like Malcolm X and his followers in the '60's) who are uncomfortable with their history and geography which is unfair, un-Islamic and reminiscent of the Jahiliyah. The ascent and advance of Islam is not defined by a particular time, a particular region or a particular race or a particular political party. We should all remember that after the sack of Baghdad by the Mongols in the 13th century and the decline of Arab power, the standard of Islam until 1924 was carried by Turks who are a white European race as are the Muslims of the Caucasus who would have won against Russia by now (except that there is no Pakistan on their border). Therefore in our non-violent jihad we need to keep our focus on Islam and refrain from espousing anti-white and "race" agendas which are un-Islamic and which as Colin the atheist rightly said are bad for Christian-Muslim relations. The animosity between our enemies whom Gordon Brown will worship in their Knesset next week is no secret. What we should not do is Zionism's dirty work for it. MPACUK simply needs to expose Zionism as a vile ideology which offers Christians as sacrifice at the altar of Satan at the same time it tyrannizes and brutalizes Muslims. These arguments about whites, blacks and browns are simply redundant and serve to divide Muslims along racial lines which are anathema to our cause. Success will be very difficult to achieve without unity amongst ourselves although I agree that house-negroes like Khurshid Lota of the BMF do exist and stab us in the back when the opportunity arises. However, we must always remember the words of Prophet Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him) in his Sermon on the Mount after the last Haj that no white has superiority over a black and no white has superiority over a black. I hope you do not mind and take on board what I have said. Well - what does everyone else think? Please post your comments.           Readers have left 23 comments.
Ali Abdullah:
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Perhaps what he said after he left NoI and called himself Malek al-Shabbaz should be highlighted instesd. He had generally stopped using racially-charged language then.
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2008-07-23 09:16:17
Sultan (in Oxford):
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Assalaam aliakum and Greetings
The brother is correct in what he says. We should not propagate the anti-white, racist views held by "Malcolm X" along the lines of black and white, "them and us", etc. I would even extend this to those Muslims of today saying "believers" and "kaffirs" (in a degoratory manner), who are trying to seperate "them and us". Trying to seperate us, rather than working together for the benefit of all mankind. With respect to malcolm X, Muslims (I hope) should understand that there are 2 accepted personnas of Malcolm X. The Malcolm X before HAJJ. The Malcolm X after HAJJ (namely, El-Hajj Malik al-Shabazz) The Malcolm X before Hajj was an outspoken disgruntled black American, who saw the "whites" as satans, lesser human beings because of the manner in which he perceived his own kind (blacks) being treated by them. He was the spokesmen for the "Nation of Islam", a group considered to be outside the fold of Islam, since it believes in aspects of Islam very contrary to true Islam. The Malcolm X after Hajj, was a reformed person. Having seen "blacks", "whites", "yellow" skins (etc) living as one, eating as one, behaving as one. He saw 1st hand that humans are one nation. In autobiography, he said this trip allowed him to see Muslims of different races interacting as equals. He came to believe that Islam could transcend racial problems. He thus showed immense remorse in his previous conduct towards the "whites" and said that he was wrong to tarnish the entire whites for the actions of the few. And he apologised for his previous conduct. He left the Nation of Islam as he did not believe in its beliefs, and set up his own Mosque. If we are going to quote Malcolm X, we should quote the Malcolm X "after hajj". The reformed, and true Muslim. Who acknowledged the error of his ways. Any quotes we use of Malcolm X "before hajj", should be seen as how an outspoken individual can be led astray and it is only by adhering to true Islam, reflecting and acting upon it, where one can be reformed into an excellent individual. Wasalaams
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2008-07-23 09:29:39
Light upon Light:
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Overall I can understand the points that were made. I disagree about the Malcolm X part, because although he used to be anti-white, he changed afterwards and sought to unite black people and white people (just listen to his speeches).
Muslims are facing grave injustice and oppression, we need a Malcolm X to shake us out of our apathy and bring justice, in the same way 'Detroit Red' brought freedom to African-Americans.
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2008-07-23 10:37:56
Ahmed:
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WE should not cower away from the real issues. Racism is as old as man and will not go away simply because we think it should not be looked at or addressed.
It is not possible to call all white people racists but put in an historical context white people and white christians have had horrifying impacts upon the lives of other nations and people. Malcolm x was simply more aware of this racisim abnd perhaps even bitter as to how the racism of white people had influenced and impacted upon his life. We should not hate all white people or even people of different races, creeds, colour, religions etc however we should be aware of racism. Racism is an evil social injustice and if we do not stand up against an injustice or even refuse to accept it exists then as muslims we only suffer the consequences ourselves as racism today is largely targeted at muslims and islam. The blacks, jews, asians have been renamed muslims. Whether you are a muslim or not doesn't matter only that you are perceived as one.
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2008-07-23 10:52:56
Mujaahid:
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I think the point of the article has been monumentally missed if the dichotomy between black and white is all that has been gleaned. The intended purpose was to highlight a self-subjugating mindset, one that is happy to settle for the breadcrumbs from the kuffar table, while overlooking our God-given right to something better.
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2008-07-23 10:53:01
Bilal:
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How dare anyone say a thing about Malcolm X -claiming he was 'anti white'. Everything in a historical context!
Only the ignorant comments to an ignorant article has prompted me a black Muslim to stand up for a Shaheed and a hero. Malcolm X's father was murdered by 'white men', his mother went mad at the hands of 'white men' and black men all across America were nailed alive to crosses and set on fire. In the back drop a man comes out and fights this - his peoples oppressors - 'who were white!' and you pathetic English suburban living arm chair uncle toms have the cheek to say he was 'anti white' so don’t mention him! Every human being is forged by the life he or she lives. You pathetic bunch of ingrates live a life of ease - others of pain and humiliation. I am sure you would be the first to condemn Hamas or Hizbollah too when the Media attack them. Malcolm X is a HERO - and it seems the Uncle Toms still live on - afraid of standing up even for those who died to free them. As Allah says of the Shaheed - those who have been martyred in the cause of Jihad - do not say they are dead, nay say they are alive and living with their Lord. How many of the so called muslim cowards who wrote this or commented on the great man can say they will abide with their Lord or ever die for a cause greater then themselves.
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2008-07-23 10:58:38
Abdullah Ali:
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As a Muslim from Nigeria and black myself I am highly offended by this racist slur on a Black and Muslim hero.
It is shocking that MPAC (who I thought were fans of Malcolm X) would even allow this type of propoganda to be put up on its site. Malcolm X died to free millions, and thousands including me have become Muslims after reading his book. To sully his great name and achievements by this illiterate comment piece is very upsetting to me and many who I know love and respect the great Muslim leader.
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2008-07-23 11:26:09
Jabbar:
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Has the person who wrote this comment read his autobiography - if not he is not qualified to comment on the Great X
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2008-07-23 11:27:45
Light upon Light:
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It is shocking that MPAC (who I thought were fans of Malcolm X) would even allow this type of propoganda to be put up on its site. — Abdullah AliI gather MPAC wanted to know what everyone thought of the public comment, so they are addressing the issue. Because the one who had written the comment never understood why Malcolm X should be used in today's context.
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2008-07-23 11:40:34
shan:
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As brother in islam malik el shabaz said by any means necessary to get freedom and liberty,that was true then and is today.
If KAFFIRS do not like being called kaffirs then all they have to do is become muslims. people who are not christians are called heathens-saracens-mohammedans-savages-pagans, those who do not beleive in jesus will not entere heaven,that is their view why shoud i be offended by that. It seems muslim and african heroes are bad and should not be mentioned,whereas Bush and blair the butchers of iraq and afghan are puritans with angelic actions,the fact that millions have been killed or maimed by them is not much of matter,after all they were going to hell anyway.
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2008-07-23 11:51:46
Mujaahid:
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Doesn't the public comment above simply epitomize the import of the article it sought to qualify? I mean here we have an individual saying we shouldn't use people like Maalik Shabbaz, why ever not?
As a number of posters have stated this noble brother was outspoken, but he addressed what needed addressing - if only we had more like him today. Instead we have 'Muslim' sycophants voting in a 42 day detention period, fighting activism in the Muslim community and denouncing Muslims who dare raise their head above their subjugated station. Like I said before, Maalik Shabbaz's words are as meaningful and necessary today, as they were over 40yrs ago.
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2008-07-23 11:51:50
Zahra Jibril:
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Stuff and nonsense is what this article amounts to. I don't think there is a single black person who could read thorough that without getting offended, even if they try not to. Contextualising peoples actions is a vital in understanding events and history. The Poster has the audacity to speak of unity after the fact; I guess he means unity only for the Asians in that case, after all black people are still “uncomfortable with their history”
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2008-07-23 12:45:05
Sultan(In Oxford):
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Assalaam alaikum and Greetings
I do not feel that the original poster is attacking Malcolm X, and all he stood for. Some will disagree with me, but I certainly did not see it that way. There is no doubting that Islam can do with an outspoken (Muslim) character like Malcolm X. One who stands up for justice, the truth, equality, and is not scared of what people (citizens or governments) may think of him. If we had a character like him, or if he was alive today, then for certain he would have been just as outspoken and address such as the following. 1) Islamophobia in the Media 2) Conduct of Western Governments towards Islamic Nations 3) Double Standards of the West. 4) Conduct of Israel and Zionists 5) Conduct of our own (pitiful) Islamic Governments/Nations 6) Conduct of some Muslims. And he would not budge an inch until things were rectified. Nobody is disputing this. Nobody is disputing how Malcolm X stood up against the oppression he saw against his own kind, and felt no choice but to speak up against the "white man" who was responsible for the injustices he saw. And I encourage our fellow "black" Muslims not to get too emotional on the article without understanding the posters purpose. Malcolm X is not being attacked in this post. What the poster is saying, do we still need to quote Malcolm X with his speeches of "anti-white" in this day and age?, when concentration should be on "anti-zionism". If we lived in a Society that was akin to the 1950's, 1960's treatment of the minority blacks in the USA (Blacks who were seen as sub-human and slaves, apartiet was present in Schools on Buses, and institutions were rascists to the core, etc) then of course what Malcolm X said then would be just as relevant today. And we could quote him word for word, without any fear or prejudice. But the world has moved on somewhat since those days. It's not perfect but certainly the minority have gained more rights than their precedessors. As a result, are words such as "anti-white, "blacks/whites", "them and us" terms which should still be in anyones vocabularly today. Should we still draw the lines along rascism?. Especially since Islam does not agree with these words. If we quote such words of Malcolm X, without explaining that we honor the character of Malcolm X as he stood up for injustices of his time, it gives the distinct impression that Muslims of today agree with the "them and us" mentality. Muslims still agree with his "anti-white" statement Malcolm X made. As a result, Muslims will be seen as people who are racists as well. This will be a serious setback for all the efforts Muslims are doing. And a setback for Islam. Can you imagine an outspoken person, in this day and age, saying "you white people"...this...and this. Just because some do this to Muslims does not mean we lower ourselves to their standards. So, yes, to the character of Malcolm X. A bit of thought please about quoting Malcolm X and his speeches, without giving context. That is all, what I see the original poster trying to say. Wasalaams
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2008-07-23 13:35:14
Yaz:
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Actually the Turks are from Central Asia. The current people of those nations are also currently identified as Turks, even those in China (the Uyghurs). Turks are a non indo-European race and are a member of the Altaic one as are the Mongols. The fact that many Turks that we see in England are from Turkey look like white Europeans is due to the fact that millions of European Muslims where expeled from Europe during the decline of the Ottoman Empire and also many where assimilated into the Turkish people that inhabited Anatolia (current Turkey) which the Turks themselves first settled in during 1071. They where actually in Iraq and Iran before Turkey.
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2008-07-23 13:44:27
Taz:
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Booo! Rubbish article. The commentator seems seriously confused and unable to grasp the relevance of Malcolm. Reading a few more books might help. MPACUK please don't publish the rantings of a seemingly very unread under-graduate. It is a little beneath you.
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2008-07-23 13:44:52
abu haadiya:
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Oh Allah! Bless this Ummah with another Malcolm X / Haji Malik al-Shabaaz. Ameen
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2008-07-23 13:57:13
I Sidat:
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Ha ha ha ha............................
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, was there nothing else MPACUK could publish i mean some comments on this article are as stupid as the article itself, there is no substance in debating the issue and how much of its actually true?
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2008-07-23 16:10:30
wendy mann:
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"vegetarian cannibals of the Hindutva"
an unnecessary comment made by the original poster. islam does not believe in race divisions and for good reason since in the human species there is only one race. what should be recognised is that race is shorthand for bigotry, petty prejudices and irrational fear brought by deceits and lies. islam does not accept bigotry, prejudices or lying. simply one should not look for idols but follow islam in the manner of the prophet. its not difficult. you succeed as a muslim you also succeed in any society or community since islam for everyone at all time.
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2008-07-23 17:44:26
thehook:
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I think the author him/herself missed the point on what Malcolm X stands for, and fell right in the hands of what the system wants.
You just fell right in the trap because you have said what the media wanted people to believe. Malcolm X wasn't against white people but rather, system and it's idealogical brainwashing which you, the author fell right into. That very word in which you said that Malcolm X is about white racism is like reading one sentence from a book and then completely saying, "that's Malcolm X." Malcolm X changed his mind and also the very drug and poison which Nation of Islam believed and still believes, and pushed by the government themselves. Writing about or quoting Malcolm X does not expand Zionism's political base or makes Muslims asdisgruntled, anti-white, racist and violent minority ( like Malcolm X and his followers in the '60's). He actually changed when he came back from Hajj and began working with anyone who believed in the right of human beings - black and white, and travelled to the four corners of the world to share what he believed. His words stand today and should be quoted more than ever because of what you have written and have believed. That very belief, that very mentality in which the system wants you to do e.g... "This is Malcolm X, someone against white, disgruntled, not content." He and still is, far ahead than any Muslims today. he was a pioneer and spoke right in the face of the system than hide like many so called "Muslim MPs" who take orders to not even visit Expo. No, give us more of Malcolm X and don't fall to "zionists growth." Zionism is growing due to our lack of action not because of what Malcolm stood for or what he said, or what is quoted from him. You fell right into the trap and it's you who should rethink what you have written. Wassalaam
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2008-07-23 18:32:08
Taz:
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Quote "the vegetarian cannibals of the Hindutva"
Just because they descend into racism it doesn't mean you have to as well.
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2008-07-23 21:58:36
Aman Fida:
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I think the author of the article needs to read Malcolm X's bio....
If we Muslims had a Malcolm X today - we may get somewhere.
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2008-07-24 12:41:04
Aman Fida:
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"I am not a racist... In the past I permitted myself to be used... to make sweeping indictments of all white people, the entire white race, and these generalizations have caused injuries to some whites who perhaps did not deserve to be hurt. Because of the spiritual enlightenment which I was blessed to receive as the result of my recent pilgrimage to the Holy City of Mecca, I no longer subscribe to sweeping indictments of any one race. I am now striving to live the life of a true Sunni Muslim. I must repeat that I am not a racist nor do I subscribe to the tenets of racism. I can state in all sincerity that I wish nothing but freedom, justice and equality, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all people."
Al-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz from his book 'The Autobiography of Malcolm X).
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2008-07-25 12:54:13
Muhammed (cape town):
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Salaam
The issue is not really worth debating. There is no problem with quoting anything from brother Malcolm or brother malik. He was striving for social justice for 'his' people until he realised that the whole human race was 'his' people. That is the essence of islam. However, while this is the ideal goal, it is not yet a reality. it seems some posters believe that the time of the 'them/us','black/white''master/slave', battle is over. While you may think it is over, they certainly dont. Have you heard of the book, "Clash of Civilizations'? They are basically telling you that you are not as advanced as they are and they must eradicate your 'otherness' if you are to remain in 'their' civilization. If you are familiar with global events, selective implementations of resolutions, varying scales of accountability for poiltical leaders (stooges), the reality is that this is how the whole operates. You cannot fight an enemy you cannot recognise. As a result of history society is shaped the way it is. Race was and is a central consideration to policy decisions. Do you think the americans could do what they are doing in iraq or afghanistan in a 'white' country? This does not mean you need to see the world in those dichotomous terms. You see the unity of mankind, even though some have rebelled, other gone astray, some are righteous. This is how we differentiate among types of people. Skin colour really is incidental. BUT when your history and your destiny have been determined by others based on your skin colour...then you would be a fool to disregard it in your quest to reclaim your destiny. Wassalaam
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2008-07-26 14:10:30
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