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Muslims are the Problem Print E-mail
Saturday, 03 May 2008

boris_johnson.jpgBoris Johnson called Islam “the problem” and has now been elected Mayor of London. Islam is not the problem. Boris Johnson is not the problem. Our Muslim leaders ARE the problem.

With nearly 1 million Muslim Londoners our leaders should have mobilised the Muslim vote to stop the rise to power of a Zionist Islamophobe. But they stood back and watched as Ken Livingstone, the most pro-Palestinian and pro-Muslim elected politician we’ve ever had, was hounded from power.

The Zionists and Islamophobes who hated him for sticking up for Muslims were not passive like our Muslim leaders.  

Under-funded volunteers can’t save the Ummah alone

MPACUK is under-funded and we rely on volunteers giving up their weekends and evenings to defend the Ummah. Yet our London branch distributed 60,000 leaflets, got hundreds of posters up in Muslim shops and used new technology to spread the message online, in the media and even in text alerts.

MPACUK wrote to every mosque in London about the election explaining what they could do to educate and mobilise voters. A few outstanding mosques explained the importance of voting in their Khutbahs and held talks and workshops about the elections. A few organized voter registration drives. Most mosques still did nothing.

Every mosque can reach thousands in their community. And many Muslim organizations MPACUK contacted also refused to take part in the campaign. Among the most prominent we put in calls to British Muslim Forum and local ISB branches – but they weren’t interested in doing the work.

Our Muslim leaders should have stopped this Zionist Islamophobe, but they refused to lift a finger.

Our Leaders have done nothing to stem the tide of hate.

The fact that so many of our fellow citizens have voted for a candidate who has openly spread hate against Islam should ring alarm bells! Our mosques could reach out to our non-Muslim neighbours and dispel the Islamophobic myths spread in the media and by the BNP. There are over 2000 mosques in the UK – if every mosque held regular Open Days it would go a long way toward stopping the rising tide of Islamophobia. Ignorance leads to fear – but surely it’s not too hard to just invite people in for a cup of tea and a chat with ordinary Muslims?

The Missing Islamic Obligation: Accountability

Abu Bakr, upon acceptance of the Khilafaat, gave a speech in which he called upon the Muslim community:

“So if I do the right thing, then help me and if I do wrong, then put me straight. Truthfulness is a sacred trust and lying is a betrayal.”

Will you hold your mosque committee accountable for failing to lift a finger to stop a racist Islamophobe becoming Mayor of London? Will you demand they now hold a voter registration drive? Will you demand they educate our community about the importance of empowering ourselves through voting and politics? Or will you allow them to leave it to the thugs outside the mosque who are hood-winking our youth to think it’s haram to vote?

How can we recite Qur'an everyday and yet not lift a finger to stop the rise to power of a man who said that Islamophobia is the natural reaction to our beloved Qur'an?

"And the Messenger will say (on the Day of Judgement), "O my Lord, indeed my people have taken this Qur'an as a thing abandoned"
(Surah 25: 30)

We must now redouble our efforts to empower the Muslim community!

It’s not too late to take action – please contact us now to find out more about becoming a volunteer: email info@mpacuk.org, telephone 0870 7605594. Or if you can’t give up your time for the Ummah then please donate to MPACUK to enable others.




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Readers have left 47 comments.
non-londoner sis: Quote

assalamu alaykum,

although i am not from london, i have been anticipating for these elections and watching them with a close eye! i've been constantly refreshing my browser to see the latest re. the elections, hoping that ken livingstone would win... subhanallah, when i saw that boris won, i knew that muslims didn't do enough.

i would like to thank mpac for their great efforts in campaigning and raising awareness, may Allah swt reward you all! it sickens me how some muslims are too thick in the head to realise that they're the ones harming their own selves! from where did these conclusions that voting is kufr come from, i seriously don't know. as a brother put it, it is only a handful of "scholars" that came out in the last century that promoted such opinions, which have no basis for it. furthermore NO scholars or institutes anywhere in the muslim world back them up for such views.

Allah protect us from the harm this man may bring us...
(1) 2008-05-03 00:14:05
CrazyFrog: Quote

MPAC should consider that some voters would have voted for Boris Johnson on the basis that organisations like MPAC are so openly and distastefully slandering Boris' campaign? Yes I do think MPAC have added negative value to Ken Livingston.
(2) 2008-05-03 01:00:44
Atiq Malik: Quote

You did what you could? GLA constituencies that had Muslim population gave KEN good lead.

1. NORTH EAST CONSTITUENCY (containing Boroughs of Hackney, Islington and Waltham Forest)

KEN: 96,402
BORIS: 57,394

2. CITY & EAST CONSTITUENCY (consisting Boroughs of Barking & Dagenham, Newham, Tower Hamlets and City of London)

KEN: 94,921
BORIS:49,666

Please email your private email address and I will explain you how to lobby and what mistakes you made in your recent campaign against Boris.

In the meantime I assure you that I will do my best that Muslim community is not ignored by our new Mayor.
(3) 2008-05-03 02:51:09
Taz: Quote

It says a lot about the Tory party and Tory voters that they are willing to nominate and elect a proven racist and general moron with no track record of success to run the most important city in London. MPAC please hold this Islamophobe to account.
(4) 2008-05-03 06:01:39
John: Quote

I do find it alarming that while this site has been banging on about Boris, Richard Barnbrook has just won a seat on the GLA for the BNP.

Sense of proportion needed chaps!

John
(5) 2008-05-03 06:17:43
Haidar: Quote

Livingstone loses by over 150,000 votes.
The people have spoken good riddance to bad rubbish.
MPAC should be ashamed of themselves begging people to vote Labour.
Labour is the enemy of Muslims. Ken since he came to power appointed an ex CIA man to run our tubes, he awarded contracts to ex Mossad men to provide our security and he awarded contracts to Bechtel to build our infrastructure.
Google VERINT, BOB KILEY, BECHTEL.
You described Atheist Ken as friend to Islam.
The same Ken who bought DUM DUM bullets from the Israelis which killed Jean Charles de Menezes who looked like a muslim.
(6) 2008-05-03 06:54:58
nash: Quote

Muslims are the problem. Every time I mentioned the elections in front of Muslims they felt obliged to tell me that Brian Paddick is gay and possibly they could vote him. Well, now that Boris is Mayor, I'm waiting for him to shove a pork sausage up the Muslim community's arse. And when he does, be sure it'll be a large one.
(7) 2008-05-03 07:56:24
Liberty: Quote

Ken Livingstone hounded from power? Racist, islamophobic zionists storming polling stations throughout London brandishing ballot papers. We must definitely do something about democracy and free speech before it gets out of hand.
(8) 2008-05-03 10:31:51
Colin: Quote

Hurray, no more hugs for the Mayor from Qaradawi, at least until MPAC can get the Lomdon Muslim vote organised.
(9) 2008-05-03 11:15:56
altab: Quote

boris is like the BNP.
(10) 2008-05-03 11:22:54
David: Quote

Ken alienated a huge number of his supporters, especially women and gays, by his inviting that muslim nazi over from Egypt.

There is also the factor that you lot being so hysterically anti-Boris, calling him racist etc, has really pissed off the native whites in the outer london boroughs who fear they are losing control of their own country and don't being dictated to by immigrants.

Then there is the cronyism and corruption of ken, his view that london is his personal fiefdom, and council tax payers' money his own private funds to do with as he wishes.

Think of Boris' victory as the revenge of the white natives against years of PC and pandering to the ethnic minorities.
(11) 2008-05-03 12:02:16
Armani: Quote

Mpacuk conducted a brillinat campaign based on political Islam and what can be achieved by the power of the ballot box. Indeed there has never been a greater campaign to mobilise Muslims and inshallah political Islam will continue to grow.

However, I do not agree with the above comments that muslim leaders are to blame as it is early days for many of the leaders in terms of doing politics. Many have always preached about Islam and not political Islam.

In the end 2 main things lost Mpacuk the cause of having ken livingston elected.

1) the bnp who detest him and tried to make sure he was deselected as their agenda for racial supremacy and ensuring greater economic propsperity and jobs for white people before others was better represented by johnson.

2) The muslims who are unwilling to vote because of their beleif that Islam forbids it together with Muslims who are unwilling to vote for a party whose leadersip should be in the Hague on charges of war crimes. Hooking up with NEW LABOUR meant Lvingston had no chance of gaining the hearts and minds of thousands of muslim voter who will simply will never vote New Labour ever again.

WEll done Mpacuk for helping ensure that the elections for mayor produced the biggest turmnout ever.
(12) 2008-05-03 12:10:33
Ash: Quote

Well said, couldn't say it better myself, well done mpac for highlighting the issues we have in the UK, I was devistated when I heard that Boris had become mayor, its a blow to all londoners, i really hope the next term goes smoothly, because I fear that if anything goes wrong under Boris's watch there will be hell to pay for ethnic minority communties..

saying that though I think theres a postive edge to Boris being elected mayor, which is when he cocks up with the usual blunders (and i assure you he will) the conservatives will pay, with votes at the next general election, we must do all we can to keep them out of power, i know its the lesser of 2 evils, but until parties like Respect & The Liberal Democrats command the number of MP's and councillors to get any real control, we can only hope that labour stay in power.

what a sad day yesterday was...
(13) 2008-05-03 12:56:56
Raghi: Quote

Before you guys have a go at each other. I think you should call for someone to check the machine that did the counting. If you ever used a computer you will know that it always makes mistakes and also it can easily be manipulated.

I have reason to suspect that there is something fishy about the Boris result....watch this space!!!
(14) 2008-05-03 13:58:37
Rob: Quote

David do you mean the way the jews in germany were pandered to by the ruling elites of germany before hitler came to power.

I am sure that is not want you mean but your hatred for ethnic minorities who are not white is disturbing.

The reality of what is happening at the moment is that the people of england do not want a scottish PM,just like they did not want a welsh PM until blair was made leader of labour and they won.

Labour should pick a english leader and withdraw from iraq and they will win the next election, as long as they make sure that david camerons picture is shown next to the words i am a zionist.
(15) 2008-05-03 15:15:56
wendy mann: Quote

Ken alienated a huge number of his supporters, especially women and gays, by his inviting that muslim nazi over from Egypt.
— David


you are not correct in calling qaradawi a nazi.

he presents views and opinions and has every right to - may i say - in the same manner that those like you who call him a nazi without any justification and feel that you have every right to do so.

there are many people who are not muslims (the african anglican church for instance, the ultra orthodox jewws, who are anti homosexuals because of their faith beliefs, who believe womens position in society is looking after the home and caring for the family and who do not condone the zionist subjugation and occupation of the people of palestine. that does not make any one of them 'nazi' any more than qaradawi.

the problem with neo-conservative zionists is that they see anyone that is not one of them as the enemy, there is no room for pluralism. now that is what i would call a nazi.

(16) 2008-05-03 16:12:49
mark uk: Quote

Where did you get the idea that computers make mistakes? Computers never make mistakes
A computer might break down but they don't make a mistake. Almost every plane crash in the world is due to pilot error and the ones that arent are because or something failing. Not because a computer has made a mistake. Its impossible. Humans make mistakes and you are making excuses.
(17) 2008-05-03 16:39:22
Eggs in one basket ?: Quote

Brothers and sisters please calm down.

Boris Johnson's ideas about Muslims or indeed most ethnic minorities are not unknown.
But as Mayor of London he cannot abuse his powers to harm Muslims because he is sure to be stopped and sacked---that is the difference between Boris Johnson's London and a country which is ruled by Asif Zardari.

I may humbly submit that MPACUK started supporting Ken rather late. It was I ( amongst other commentators) who pointed out during MPACUK's initial "balanced" reporting about Ken and Boris as candidates that just because Boris's grandfather was a Muslim did not make him Muslim-friendly.

Unfortunately in the tradition of Western democracy we will have to accept the result.

MPACUK's rants and raves about that which is past (including the crimes of omission by mosques) are not in the wider interest of the Muslim community for the next 4 years.

Boris should be aware that he will be watched by Muslims and should his hands or tongue harm Muslims he will be held to account by courts and by Parliament.

But at the same time it is the responsibility of MPACUK and other institutions who supported Ken that the repeated mourning of defeat and acknowledgement of being in the losing opposition will do nothing except help our enemies.

Muslims should learn from the Jews who bank-rolled the BNP's Islamophobic hate-campaign whilst publicly pretending to be victims of BNP's neo-nazi trash and opposing them.

Whatever the BNP do to Muslims in Barking or Blackburn does not affect the Jewish community in Golders Green which simply is out of bounds for BNP's dole-scroungers. Is that not true?


Clever people that Jews are, nobody can even guess who side are they on. That is a lesson we must learn.

It is like the USA where Jews pretend to support the Democratic party whilst secretly funding and lobbying the GOP-Bush administration to bomb the Muslim world to the stone age and send those who survive to G'tmo.

On the other hand MPACUK are constantly mouthing off their dislike for Boris which is detrimental to the Muslim community as a whole and should stop.

I hope I have explained my point that by castigating Boris prematurely we are pushing him to the Israeli/Indian lobby and effectively doing their work for them.

The better thing to do would be for MPACUK to

1. Welcome Boris Johnson and congratulate him on his success

2. Emphasise that Muslims support the Tory party too and the common things between Tories and Muslims and

3. Try to influence the Tory party policies from inside rather than stay in opposition.

It does not even require a deft reading of the wind to know that the Tories are coming. Let us prepare ourselves for that moment. Not just for our sake. But also for the sake of our children and our brothers and sisters all over the world who suffer the atrocities of Zionism and its slaves....
(18) 2008-05-03 17:06:27
Good Job MPAC: Quote

Assalaamu alaikum

MPAC, you did your job and did brillaintly too.You were accountable, you put time, effort and didn't hesistate and did what many Muslim organisations and rhetorics who sit and do jack and watch WOULDN'T DO. You rolled your sleeves up and you steered the ship like leaders.

Though I am devasted that Boris won, it is ONLY THE BEGINING! People, the work has just begun. Don't lose heart. It is now, we need faith, brotherhood, and unity more than ever.

I thank you MPAC for waking many of us up. Don't lose heart. This may seem as a bad day due to Boris winning BUT it is a good day for Islam. The Muslims are waking up. It's created something positive which many of us may not see.

This is just battle, one battle out of many to come. The way these years have flew by, so will the next ones but this time, we prepare.

Proud of MPAC bros and sisters in Islam, and all who voted and did their best. Your efforts will not be forgotten and Allah SWT is Aware of what you have done.

It has woken most of my family up.
(19) 2008-05-03 17:28:31
p: Quote

I was really p****d off. Sorry for the language but I was to get the my frustration to the leaders. I told my friends and family to vote and did the best i could.

There are 600000 muslims in the london. The largest muslim population. But we bikiring like idiots between ourselve shirk or halal.

But maybe we deserve due to ignorance and in-activity. I should have more patience.

For surely Allah(swt) says:

"Allah does not change a condition of a people until they change themselve"

insha-allah Allah(swt) will change our condition.
(20) 2008-05-03 18:00:40
Haidar: Quote

Muslims are NOT the problem.
The problem is the Muslim leadership which is controlled by MI5 and all came out instructing Muslims to vote Labour.
You are so wrong.
Boris grandparents are Turkish and Muslim. They left Turkey when it became Atheist.
Boris wife is a SIKH INDIAN.
So it is you who are racist NOT Boris.
London is a much more congested and polluted and dangerous place for all of us under Labour.
Labour is the enemy of Muslims.
Labour created Israel in 1948.
Labour supplied Israel with Nukes in 1968.
More than 50% of Labour MPs are zionists.
Yet you call Boris our enemy and tell us to vote for Labour.
MPAC, MCB, etc are controlled opposition and simply offshoots of the Labour party.
Wake up brothers and sisters.
Peace.
(21) 2008-05-03 19:10:39
Colin: Quote

The lib Dems, who like to boast their multicultural credentials, must be very embarrassed when Ash groups them along with the ghettoistic anti-Jewish (AKA anti-Zionist) Respect party, as potential saviours of the UK.
(22) 2008-05-03 20:44:57
Clifford Ishii: Quote

So now we will have a fatwa against Londoners and Boris for messing up Islam and it's plans?
(23) 2008-05-03 20:49:55
Khan: Quote

I'm glad boris has been elected he's good.. i think mpacuk makes a poo out of everything!
(24) 2008-05-03 21:15:16
Miah: Quote

All this talk about Ken losing because the Muslims didn't do enough, but has anyone done any analysis on the Muslim votes? Are we sure the Muslims didn't vote?

Maybe some Muslims voted for Boris because they didn't want to give victory to a war mongering party.

Apparantly only 45% people voted, so what happened to the other 55% who didn't vote? So just blaming the Muslims isn't right
(25) 2008-05-04 01:58:03
America the beautiful: Quote

It seems my British cousins will not go softly into that goodnight. I guess all those riots across Europe did not have the desired effect.

Same in America with illegal aliens they held a big march scared the crap out of everyone and made themselves a national problem, now enforcement is up and so is a fence.

Good job scaring the crap out of Europe Muslims, because that is all you have done. Kickback relax and wait for the rest of Europe to elect conservative leadership that is going to limit immigration, increase assimilation, and boot out the ne'erdowells. The more of a nuisance Muslims make themselves the less friendly Europe will become. And judging by this post some Muslims plan on doing just that.

Islam killed multiculturalism in Europe. Thanks! Couldn't have done it without you.
(26) 2008-05-04 02:33:58
Some Have No Sense Whatsoever: Quote

Well khan, you're words sure shows how intellectual and how amazing phrased at the english. So much so, a 9 year old can do better.

Stop embarrassing your self and share some constructive comments or critisms.

Has he took Shahadah?
Does he pray 5 times a day?
Does he fast?
And rest of the five pillars.

Answer is..NO!

Learn what Islam is before coming out with that kind of nonsense. Many Arabs who are agents, spies and so is case in all communities. The NAME and lineage means NOTHING!!

You play anti-semitism card, and now you play racism card. Get a life!
(27) 2008-05-04 03:17:33
Pedant: Quote

Before you guys have a go at each other. I think you should call for someone to check the machine that did the counting. If you ever used a computer you will know that it always makes mistakes and also it can easily be manipulated.

I have reason to suspect that there is something fishy about the Boris result....watch this space!!!
— Raghi


The votes were counted by hand under the supervision of observers from any party. The reason Johnson won is simply that more Londoners preferred him to Livingstone.
(28) 2008-05-04 04:53:02
naz: Quote

So now we will have a fatwa against Londoners and Boris for messing up Islam and it's plans?
— Clifford Ishii


Only if you issue it.
(29) 2008-05-04 09:06:14
naz: Quote

I'm glad boris has been elected he's good.. i think mpacuk makes a poo out of everything!
— Khan



Mmmmmm its early days yet.Give it time you just might change your mind!
(30) 2008-05-04 09:07:32
Steve: Quote

Great news! Is Europe finally waking up? Love the picture with those cute Israeli soldiers!
(31) 2008-05-04 09:48:28
Robert Oppenheimer: Quote

Congratulations to London for electing a patriotic, pro-British mayor! Down with the MPAC.

Long live, Boris!
Long live, Great Britain!
Love live, USA!
Long live, Israel!
(32) 2008-05-04 10:24:58
Inshallah: Quote

I'm glad Boris is the new mayor. He's smart enough to know that Islam is a useless and anti-human ideology.
Go Boris!

And before some brainbox accuses me of being racist, I feel I must point out that Islam isn't a race and it's no more possible to be racist against a Muslim because of his or her ideology that it is to be racist against someone for being a socialist or Christian.

Hah!
(33) 2008-05-04 11:09:49
steveo: Quote

Great news! Is Europe finally waking up? Love the picture with those cute Israeli soldiers!
— Steve


Beat me! I was gonna say exactly the same.
(34) 2008-05-04 12:21:12
markuk: Quote

Well khan, you're words sure shows how intellectual and how amazing phrased at the english. So much so, a 9 year old can do better.

Stop embarrassing your self and share some constructive comments or critisms.
— Some Have No Sense Whatsoever
Classiic! This idiot is attacking someone's english because they are angry about the voting for Boris. You want to check your own spelling.
"Stop embarrassing your self and share some constructive comments or critisms."
(35) 2008-05-04 12:30:34
Mohsin: Quote

Aslaam Alkium

Londoner Muslims, dont let this "Boris Johnson" impose pressure on your peace of mind and security.

The Key to success, inshallah, is Knowledge-Education, Economic power and Political Power.

Take the pressures in a very positive way, the majority of the Londoners have clearly chosen him. It shows how Londoners look upon muslims.

Compete, more competitively in all spheres of the economy. Political powers becomes submissive to thou who is economically powerful.

Let them play the Political games, at this time the muslim community should become mor united, have more solidarity. Then we find the theme from which we can constructively wave our positive influence.

Boris came at a perfect time.
(36) 2008-05-04 13:15:38
Michelle: Quote

Muslims are not a welcome presence in the UK. They are tolerated at best, and despised by many. Their presence in England in large numbers is a historical mistake that no one has the courage to admit and try to correct.

Muslims should remember that they remain a small part of the population, and the more they rail against a particular candidate based on religious/political bias, the more they will induce non-muslims to vote for him.

If muslims were smart, they would shut up until they have a serious majority of the population in London, and elsewhere, and then they can control the "democracy" to their benefit. This is obvious, and clearly the plan in some quarters.

The only question is whether the English will permit this to occur, or whether they will wise up in time. Lets see in 30-50 years. Luckily, I'll be dead by then. Unlikely, my children will have to live in this soon to be godforsaken country.
(37) 2008-05-04 16:17:51
Eric the Half a Bee: Quote

Hi wendy mann,

since you have mis-understood totally the significance of David's comments regarding that muslim nazi from Egypt I will explain.

Sure that egyptian preacher is allowed to hold the views he holds, no one disputes that. Just as I am allowed to find his views repugnant and say so.

The point is, however, that Ken, a representative of progressive politics, of the left, who has always supported the human rights of gays and women, invited over someone (that aforementioned egyptian cleric) whose political views are at odds with the views of Ken's constitutency of progressive voters, a large number of whom are gays and women. And who took offence at Ken doing so.

Thus Ken lost the votes of most gays and of most women.

regards
(38) 2008-05-04 17:18:12
gordon: Quote

Do you guys actually like living in this country? Or do you just put up with it for the money?
(39) 2008-05-04 19:47:12
Armani: Quote

I love it when the racists say that Islam isn't a race it shows why racist have so few brain cells that they can barely be considered human.

Keep up the god work Mpac. The anti-muslim and racist comments on your website show that you are doing a treeeeeeeeeemendous job

yeaaaaaaaah
(40) 2008-05-04 21:20:37
Armani: Quote

Keep up the good work Mpac the zionist are really riled even though they have the
boris utterly and totally brainshed into the zionist cause by offering up their fair (matter of opinion) maidens.
(41) 2008-05-04 21:37:26
Veritas: Quote

Quote from post 20 above -

'Muslims should learn from the Jews who bank-rolled the BNP's Islamophobic hate-campaign whilst publicly pretending to be victims of BNP's neo-nazi trash and opposing them.'

Do MPAC have moderators that censor comments like this ? Perhaps they should know that under British law this comment would quite clearly constitute hate speech, and indeed libelous as well.

It's comments like these, redolant of 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion'(favourite fictional reading material of the BNP and others funnily enough) and Nazi style propoganda that really do not do the Muslim community in this country any favours.

The person that posted this overtly rabid anti-Semitic comment should be aware that it is exactly the equivalent of the type of comments mad by BNP activists with regards to Muslims.

Repugnant !
(42) 2008-05-05 02:25:14
Cathy Pearson: Quote

Boris got elected because people too embarassed to openly vote for BNP chose to vote Boris.

Boris got in thanks to the BEXLEY RACISTS.

London is what it is because of its diversity, vibrancy, financial expertise, cultural excellence. Well, MR./MISS/MS/MRS BEXLEY RACIST: Bexley isn't ANY of those things.

So, you are NOT LONDON.

Bring back Ken. The ONLY British politician to speak up for child victims of Palestine, and against the Gorgons of Tel Aviv.

Shame on Boris the racist Zion-Lover (as ALL Zion-Lovers are).

Britain for the British: we don't want Zionists here!
(43) 2008-05-05 21:52:30
shan: Quote

Michelle i am sure you know what freedon of speech is,as muslims we are always lectured about peoples right to speak out.
so when muslims use freedom of speech bigots like you keep forgetting the mantra we are lectured with freedom of speech and you should remember that as well.
it was the irish-the jews-the asians and the black people who were the problem before muslims were chosen to be scapegoated,it seems the british people need someone to look down on to make their lives worth living.
(44) 2008-05-06 10:31:53
wendy mann: Quote


The point is, however, that Ken, a representative of progressive politics, of the left, who has always supported the human rights of gays and women, invited over someone (that aforementioned egyptian cleric) whose political views are at odds with the views of Ken's constitutency of progressive voters, a large number of whom are gays and women. And who took offence at Ken doing so.
— Eric the Half a Bee


i think you have relied too much on the media representation of qaradawi than what he actually states.

the fact is islam insists that men and women are equal but have different roles in society. that is as much a common view in a progressive society that we live in, clearly we do not claim men to be better mothers than women - do we ? so why pretend it is the case?

the koran does not dictate any punishment against homosexuals it like judaism and christianity claims it to be a sin. qaradawi like many anglicans , catholics and orthodox jews expresses an opinion . in a progressive society it is a valid one across all sectors of communities. why should he be censored but not say anglican clergy ?

the fact is i dont see why anyone should condone to our children anal penetration as a lifestyle choice nor do i see hoards of muslim vigilantes here in the west seeking to kill homosexuals - i have however witnessed british - christians do so in this country - (bnp soho nail bomber)

it is this reliance on the neo conservative zionists version of events that is worrying rather than seeking the actuality of what is being stated and the context of those statements.

(45) 2008-05-06 14:55:17
wendy mann: Quote

Muslims are not a welcome presence in the UK. They are tolerated at best, and despised by many. Their presence in England in large numbers is a historical mistake that no one has the courage to admit and try to correct.

Muslims should remember that they remain a small part of the population, and the more they rail against a particular candidate based on religious/political bias, the more they will induce non-muslims to vote for him.

If muslims were smart, they would shut up until they have a serious majority of the population in London, and elsewhere, and then they can control the "democracy" to their benefit. This is obvious, and clearly the plan in some quarters.

The only question is whether the English will permit this to occur, or whether they will wise up in time. Lets see in 30-50 years. Luckily, I'll be dead by then. Unlikely, my children will have to live in this soon to be godforsaken country.
— Michelle


do you know anything about the 'jewish problem' according to the nazis?

do you know anything about how the jewish population was dehumanised and demonised by inadequate and ill informed patriots so that a people turned a blind eye to genocide?

i doubt it because if you did you would realise how much like a nazi you sound.
(46) 2008-05-06 15:00:53
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Ken lost because although he energetically spoke up for the victims in Palestine and Iraq, he didn't speak up for the everyday victims in London. Like much of the Left, although he liked to remind us of his working class roots and commitment to the proletariat, but in truth he had abandoned them long ago. He used the Muslim community when he needed it but he did little or nothing to improve their lot. He certainly did nothing effective to improve employability amongst young marginalised Muslim men. His cronies seem to have shoved vast amounts of money in the direction of other minorities mainly their own ethnic groups.
While we may not like Boris, he has no friends in City Hall and perhaps just for once Muslims together with other marginalised groups will get a fair crack of the whip.
(47) 2008-05-06 19:48:38
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