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Melanie 'Mad Mel' Phillips now attacks British Shia mosques! Print E-mail
Saturday, 12 April 2008

melanie_phillips.jpg In the Washington Post David Ignatius observes that, in their testimony to the Senate on the war in Iraq, General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker portrayed the malign and nefarious influence of Iran as lying at the very core of the ongoing difficulties in Iraq. Ignatius makes two very important points:


Iran's covert campaign to reshape Iraq has been clear since the U.S. invasion in March 2003. Iranian intelligence officers prepared lists of Iraqis for assassination in the weeks and months after the war began; they sent Iranian-trained mullahs to take over the Shiite mosques of central and southern Iraq that had been smashed by Saddam Hussein; they pumped an estimated $12 million a week in covert financial support to their allies as the January 2005 election approached; they infiltrated all the major Shiite political parties, and many of the Sunni ones, too.

The Iranians have fixed the political game. They are on all sides at once. They have links to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his Dawa party; they funnel money to the Badr organization of Shiite cleric Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, which is a key recruiting ground for the Iraqi army; they provide weapons, training and command and control for the most extreme factions of the Mahdi Army. Moqtada al-Sadr, the Mahdi Army's nominal leader, is actually living in the Iranian holy city of Qom…

The first point is that, although Petraeus implied that Iranian meddling in Iraq was a recent development, it was actually clear from the get-go. Yet although the Americans (and the British) knew full well that Iran was a key factor in stoking the fires of insurrection in Iraq, they chose to remain silent about it and went to enormous lengths to avoid acknowledging it, even to the extent of issuing rules of military engagement against hot pursuit over the Iranian border to catch Iranian terrorists responsible for attacking coalition forces (and who can forget Britain’s humiliation last year over Iran’s kidnap of the 15 British marines when Britain’s terms of engagement forbade any act of defence in case of ‘escalation’ into war with Iran). So why has it taken all this time to say what was plain from the start, that throughout this period Iran has been waging war on us?

The second point is a grim one. For all the apparent success of the surge, the reduction in violence in Iraq and the reported ‘awakening’ by the Sunni Iraqi sheikhs to the iniquity of al Qaeda, the fact is that Iraq is now a puppet state of Iran. As Ignatius observes, Iran has fixed the Iraqi government, the Iraqi army and the Iraqi insurrection. Even Ayatollah Sistani, once no friend to the Iranian Shia, has now buckled under. The purpose is strategic. Iran is the great chess player of the Muslim world and it is steadily moving its pieces into a checkmate position. It is now playing in Iraq a similar role to the one it is playing in Lebanon, where it controls the government and has an army, in the form of Hezbollah, poised to attack Israel (again), and which it is also developing in Gaza where it is aiding Hamas.

But it’s worse even than that. For Iran’s chessmen are now in position not just here and in several other trouble spots around the world but also in the west. While Britain, America and Europe have been (rightly) transfixed by Sunni terror in the form of al Qaeda and the allied cultural onslaught by the Muslim Brotherhood, they have totally overlooked the fact that an Iranian Shia terrorist infrastructure has been built in British, American and European cities. In Britain, for example, dozens of extremist Shia mosques have sprung up in London alone, some of which are serving as the base for unknown numbers of Hezbollah cells in the UK. We don’t know about them because, unlike al Qaeda, they are not announcing their presence through sporadic attacks. They are, instead, waiting.

What are they waiting for? A signal.

Here is the nightmare scenario. Iran is racing to develop the bomb (the picture above shows Ahmadinejad at Natanz) while the west obligingly provides it with the time to do so. Le Monde, for example, has obtained documents showing that, contrary to the infamous American National Intelligence Estimate, Tehran was indeed pursuing a military nuclear program after 2003 (what a surprise). In response, President Bush may or may not attack Iran before he departs the White House. If he decides not to do this, history will record that he allowed this seismic threat to civilisation to realise its deadly ambition. But if he should decide to do it, the response is unlikely to take the form of rockets fired from Iran since it will very likely be paralysed by the US attack at an early stage. Instead it will unleash its sleeping weapon — its terrorist army around the world. Hezbollah will attack Israel from Lebanon, maybe along with Hamas from Gaza; in Iraq, it will attack US forces who will be sitting ducks; and Europe will be subjected to unquantifiable acts of terror.

When British officials are told about the threat from Shia radicals in their midst, they shrug it off. They believe that, since the British government will not join the Americans in a war against Iran, Britain will not be a target for retaliation. Once again, they could not be more wrong. To Iran, Britain and America are linked as the greater and lesser Satans; Britain indeed is seen as the very fount of historic western imperialism, particularly in the Middle East. So Britain would get hit regardless, even though there’s no longer any British spine to snap. And so probably would America.

The terrible thing is that we are have sleepwalked into this and are still in the same trance. Iran declared war upon the west in 1979 when Khomeini came to power. We ignored it. When Hezbollah attacked western interests in the decade that followed, we ignored it. When Hezbollah pointed thousands of rockets at Israel, we ignored it (and blamed Israel when it finally tried to fight it). And now that we have it in our own cities, we are doing nothing whatever about it. But we are thus ignoring an unconscionable threat, one that is within. We have been recklessly oblivious before, to the growth in our midst of al Qaeda. We are doing it again. Who can forget the placards on London’s streets waved by suicidally stupid British liberals during the Lebanon war proclaiming ‘We are all Hezbollah now’? That could soon be truer than anyone thought.

As I have said before, all roads lead to Iran. One way or another, the regime has to be taken out. It would be great if this could happen through the Iranians themselves rising up and overthrowing it. But how likely is this?

This is the decision President Bush is having to weigh. He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. The consequences of war with Iran, along the lines sketched out above, would be dire and would extend way beyond the region. But the alternative may be war with a nuclear Iran, genocide or the nuclear blackmail and inevitable throttling of the west — or all three. It’s a hard decision, made harder because the dilemma is largely self-inflicted through almost thirty years of supine refusal to acknowledge reality. But ultimately, the self-delusion has to end. The only question is whether it will do so in time to avert catastrophe, or will dawn amongst the ashes.

Source: The Spectator

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Taz: Quote

Melanie Phillips is an Islamophobic Zionist witch! She incites hatred against Muslims at every opportunity.
(1) 2008-04-12 09:13:08
David: Quote

You muslims really are such hypocrites calling Melanie Philips "MAD", when a cursory glance over the topics under discussion on this website include (believe it or not) the length of women's hair, izrael, izrael, izrael, izrael, whether some loon imman says alcohol is banned, and numerous other utterly crazed topics. Oh, and yet more Izrael, Izrael, Izrael (as if you haven't got enough problems in the muslim to deal with).

And you want to know the ultimate indication of your madness? Yes, it's the fact that you all believe in a (morally corrupt) sky pixie and follow the hallucinating and dribbling rantings of a warlord from the 7th century - a man who murdered and who is definitely not fit to be held up as a teacher and prophet. Yet you mad people hold this man up as a role model. No wonder the muslim world is in a moral and ethical mess.

Sheeeeesh, and you call Melanie 'mad'.
(2) 2008-04-12 12:09:24
Big Al: Quote

You muslims really are such hypocrites calling Melanie Philips "MAD", when a cursory glance over the topics under discussion on this website include (believe it or not) the length of women's hair, izrael, izrael, izrael, izrael, whether some loon imman says alcohol is banned, and numerous other utterly crazed topics. Oh, and yet more Izrael, Izrael, Izrael (as if you haven't got enough problems in the muslim to deal with).

And you want to know the ultimate indication of your madness? Yes, it's the fact that you all believe in a (morally corrupt) sky pixie and follow the hallucinating and dribbling rantings of a warlord from the 7th century - a man who murdered and who is definitely not fit to be held up as a teacher and prophet. Yet you mad people hold this man up as a role model. No wonder the muslim world is in a moral and ethical mess.

Sheeeeesh, and you call Melanie 'mad'.
— David


Rant the word of someone who has no actual answer, well you race & religious hate is noted as is your IP. This will be passed to the police. Your war on the real free world is well established, since who was your prophet or should I say your teachings, lets see Hitler, Stalin, j king, simonson, etc
(3) 2008-04-12 16:00:17
Raja77: Quote

You muslims really are such hypocrites calling Melanie Philips "MAD", when a cursory glance over the topics under discussion on this website include (believe it or not) the length of women's hair, izrael, izrael, izrael, izrael, whether some loon imman says alcohol is banned, and numerous other utterly crazed topics. Oh, and yet more Izrael, Izrael, Izrael (as if you haven't got enough problems in the muslim to deal with).

And you want to know the ultimate indication of your madness? Yes, it's the fact that you all believe in a (morally corrupt) sky pixie and follow the hallucinating and dribbling rantings of a warlord from the 7th century - a man who murdered and who is definitely not fit to be held up as a teacher and prophet. Yet you mad people hold this man up as a role model. No wonder the muslim world is in a moral and ethical mess.

Sheeeeesh, and you call Melanie 'mad'.
— David


Get an education, David. Particularly in Islamic History.
(4) 2008-04-12 16:39:09
shan: Quote

The muslim world is in no moral or ethical mess it is under foreign evil and despotic occupation.
once the occupation has been ended and muslim nations liberated,they can sort out their problems like all other nations.
mad mel is just another raving loony who is given airtime, i personally think raving loonies be they jews-muslims-christians or others should not be given airtime.
(5) 2008-04-12 17:21:54
K. Urban: Quote

I don’t know if anyone of you has witnessed the sort of fight in council parks where a gang of boys mercilessly and relentlessly kick and beat up their victim, goaded on by orders screamed by a rough looking girl.
And as the police cars come wailing to the scene, the boys scuttle off. She then claims to be the victim, adding to the trauma felt by the blood-soaked victim lying on the ground.

Well, the ‘up-market’ equivalent of the girl is Melanie ‘Felony’ Phillips.
And the gang of bullyboys is the Daily Mail. Or Tony Blair and the Bush Mob.
Or countless others.

You do feel rather sorry for Mel though. She has the unfortunate haggard looks of a jilted woman who has hacked off her hair because her husband has run off with a better-looking woman.
Now Mel has rejoined the gang, because she has noticed the gang is now tearing apart Shias.
And she will join others. Because she does not care.
Nor does she not use her capabilities fairly for the benefit of all mankind.
Only for her own kind.
Just as the Nazis protected their own whilst torturing others, so do Ms Phillips and the Israelis.
But as an intellectual like Tony Blair, Melanie Phillips gets others to do her dirty work.
She is a thorough disgrace to humanity, the gentle sex, and to Judaism itself.
(6) 2008-04-13 08:41:40
Barbarossa: Quote

You muslims really are such hypocrites calling Melanie Philips "MAD", when a cursory glance over the topics under discussion on this website include (believe it or not) the length of women's hair, izrael, izrael, izrael, izrael, whether some loon imman says alcohol is banned, and numerous other utterly crazed topics. Oh, and yet more Izrael, Izrael, Izrael (as if you haven't got enough problems in the muslim to deal with).

And you want to know the ultimate indication of your madness? Yes, it's the fact that you all believe in a (morally corrupt) sky pixie and follow the hallucinating and dribbling rantings of a warlord from the 7th century - a man who murdered and who is definitely not fit to be held up as a teacher and prophet. Yet you mad people hold this man up as a role model. No wonder the muslim world is in a moral and ethical mess.

Sheeeeesh, and you call Melanie 'mad'.
— David


Looks like the ZioNazi doesnt like MPAC mentioning IzzzzzzraeHELL much - that means only one thing - MPAC keep mentioning and putting a spotlight on the racist little state!
(7) 2008-04-13 12:40:04
Frank Cockburn: Quote

Spot on K.Urban.
An exceptionally well written comment.
(8) 2008-04-13 13:42:00
Ziggy: Quote

"Melanie Phillips is an Islamophobic Zionist witch! She incites hatred against Muslims at every opportunity. "

Ballocks, the activities of so many muslims incite that hatred. The acceptance of those activitied put the final nail in the coffin
(9) 2008-04-13 20:22:11
Paul M: Quote

Extraordinary.

Thousands of Shias have been massacred in Iraq and their holiest places destroyed.

Of course you can blame the context on the US invasion, although the situation for the Shias was not so rosy under Saddam either, but the people directly responsible are al Qaida in Iraq. And you cannot ignore, for context, a long tradition of hatred for Shi'ites which has entered al Qaida from various Islamic traditions.

When Shias are being brutalised (by other Muslims) it would not occur to MPAC to raise even the shadow of interest in the matter (except to blame it on the Americans, the Zionists etc. - and when Saddam was massacring them, that too was the fault of the Zionists...) but a few harsh words from Mel and all hell breaks loose.

If I were part of the Ummah, I would not be relying on MPAC to guard my interests!
(10) 2008-04-14 14:29:21
shan: Quote

PaulM for your information the shias under saddam were fully integrated into the government-army-police and civil service.
saddam was a socialist he dealt sternly with all those that challenged the writ of the state, otherwise why would he have killed his son in laws and his brother in law.
i really have a good laugh when non muslims shed crocodile tears for shias and muslim women, when in iraq they are killing shias and abusing women, under saddams rule women had more rights then they have now.
ALCIADA for sure is killing iraqis be they shias-sunnis or others.
in saddams 35 year rule around 50,000 to 150,00 people died in putting down treason and rebellion, after 5 year sof american occupation upto a million have died to date and millions more maimed or made refugees.
I suppose you would call that tough love.

(11) 2008-04-14 17:31:22
RSD: Quote

Melanie Philips' contribution serves only to cloud the issues, due to her notoriety. But that does not mean that in essence her statements are incorrect.
The roles of both Iran and Syria for several decades has been to destabilise the countries around it by manipulating one faction against another. Whatever happens the principal beneficiaries have always been Iran and Syria governments, but certainly not the ordinary people in any of the affected countries. The utilisation of proxy armed forces in the conflict against Israel enables both these regimes being faced with the consequences fo direct military engagement with Israel. It is indeed a clever strategy, but again it is at the expense of other people, mainly Muslims. However, it can also be said to be cowardly for both Iran and Syria to hide behind the skirts of their Lebanese and Iraqi proteges, hardly the manly martial image they like to present on TV and elsewhere.
Consider this - what if following the invasion of Iraq a stable Iraqi democracy had emerged in which Iraqis of all persuasions could live together in peace and prosperity - what would be the consequences for Syria and Iran? Democracy is a nasty virus which has the habit of spreading uncontrollably leading to ordinary change
(12) 2008-04-14 20:42:09
Taz: Quote

"Melanie Phillips is an Islamophobic Zionist witch! She incites hatred against Muslims at every opportunity. "

Ballocks, the activities of so many muslims incite that hatred. The acceptance of those activitied put the final nail in the coffin
— Ziggy


So you admit that there is hatred. Well done you. Thank you.
(13) 2008-04-14 20:42:37
Paul M: Quote

Shan - perfect. I wondered how long it would take someone to come along and say 'Saddam only killed a few tens of thousands of people'.

It is clear that for a lot of Muslims on MPAC Muslim life is very cheap, unless its loss can be pinned on the right party. Five Palestinians is a massacre, five thousand Shias (or Sunnis in the case of Syria / Hama) is putting down a little local difficulty.
(14) 2008-04-15 07:52:20
shan: Quote

PaulM it is perfect to point out the hypocrisy of people shedding crocodile tears for shias.
Treason in any part fo the world is put down using counter force to what has been used against the state.
Vannunu informed the world that israel had nuclear weapons he was kidnapped from europe and jailed in israel for 18 years,all he did was speak the truth so why was he locked up for 18 years.
palestinians throw stones they get shot in return,when palestinians shoot at israelis what does israel do blow kisses or strike with fighter planes-tanks and missiles.
so less of the patrionising please.
(15) 2008-04-15 11:02:53
Paul M: Quote

Shan - I was not crying crocodile tears for the Shias.

I was simply pointing out the inconsistency of howling when Melanie Philips criticises Shias, but not even bothering to look interested when tens of thousands of them are killed by Saddam or Al Qaida.

But maybe you are right, perhaps they are perceived as traitors by Mulims who read this web site, and are considered to deserve slaughter, them, their wives and their little children.

I wonder what others think.
(16) 2008-04-15 16:23:14
shan: Quote

PualM it is ncie to that you care, but what about the second half of my comments or are you saying that is what israel does slaughter women and children.
the reason why i say crocodile tears is simple the day occupation of palestine is ended we shall say you are for real in your feelings.
BTW saddam is dead and dusted when the current butchers of iraq are dead and dusted then we shall no longer talk about them, for the time beign we shall talk about the slaughter here and now not what happened decades ago.
Alciada and america are two sides of the same coin.

(17) 2008-04-15 18:26:55
Paul M: Quote

Shan - when you show a little concern for the hundreds of thousands of Muslims slaughtered by other Muslims, we will believe your crocodile tears for the relatively small number of Palestinians killed in their conflict with Israel.
(18) 2008-04-15 19:36:42
shan: Quote

PaulM so according to you the suffering of millions of palestinians and the slaughter of tens of thousands in the last 60 years is a relatviely small number.
does this have anything to do with chosen one syndrome,in which the suffering of the chosen ones matters and all other goyims do not matter.
as for crocodile tears i felt the pain of other muslims when they were being killed by a socialist american stooge saddam.
we are talking about the current butchers of palestinians and iraqis not what happened in history.
(19) 2008-04-16 10:49:35
Paul M: Quote

Shan - when it suits you, you refer to the last 60 years, when it does not, you insist that what worries you is what is happening in the present, not the past. Make your mind up.

I know you want to refer everything back to Palestine because for some reason it obsesses you, but run past me again why you and MPAC are very concerned about Melanie Phillips supposedly verbally attacking Shias, but not in the slightest worried about you fellow Muslims slaughtering thousands of Shias. I know you have tried to do this before, but it is so breathtaking a leap of morality and standards I need to see the trick repeated because the first time it was so incoherent. In your answer, please stick to the issue I have raised and try to avoid Palestine, me and whether or not I am shedding tears. None are relevant to the question.

Regarding Saddam as an 'American stooge' - how interesting. When the West traded and dealt with Saddam, it was responsible for his creation as if the principles of Baathism had been dreamt up in the synagogues of New York. When it boycotted him, it was responsible for 'genocide' because it was not providing enough food and drugs. When it replaced him, it was again responsible for genocide, because after he fell Muslims in Iraq decided that, in protest at the American occupation, they would kill each other's children and wives.

Whatever the West does in response to the hideous regimes the Muslim world throws up, it is always guilty, the Muslim societies from which these regimes have emerged are flawless and blameless.

Finally, with regard to 'goyims', you lack of any knowledge of syntax in semitic languages is shocking. If you knew any Arabic you would know that 'een' is the masculine plural and would assume that 'im' was the Hebrew equivalent (as in 'seraphim' and 'cherubim), so no need for an 's'. I suggest you go to the Mosque and get yourself a basic education rather than dabbling in things political of which you know so little.
(20) 2008-04-16 16:23:47
shan: Quote

Wel paulm the occupation and oppression has been ongoing for 60 years,so if you do not like it being called 60 years then i suggest occupation is ended and we will no longer debate on that point.
BTW my mosque does not teach any history lessons,so i shall visit my library to educate my self a bit more, since the chosen ones like you are naturally gifted and us lesser goyims need to be told now and then to get a education.
Finally the majority of hideous regimes in the muslim world are supported and fianced by hypocritical western nations to oppress their own people.
(21) 2008-04-17 10:44:56
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