| Tariq Ramadan: Muslims Need To Stop Behaving Like Victims |
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| Thursday, 06 July 2006 | |
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This is an appeal to Western Muslims, but also to our non-Muslim fellow citizens. One year after the London bombings we have good reason to be concerned. The scars left by this atrocity and other terrorist attacks, and the ongoing "war against terror", have combined to portray Islam as a threat to Western societies. Fear, and the emotions that accompany it, has become a part of the public mindset. In this climate, arguments that were previously the sole province of the extreme right have found space within mainstream political discourse. The past is reinterpreted so as to deny Islam any place in the creation of Western identity which is now frequently redefined as purely Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian. Meanwhile many politicians have opted for the dangerous rhetoric of defending "Western values" and seek to impose strict limitations on "foreigners", while at the same time putting in place a whole apparatus of new security laws to fight terrorism. Hardly a Western society has been spared its own debate on questions of "identity" or "integration", but the implicit terms of the debate are often reduced to a distinction between two entities: "We, Westerners" and "They, the Muslims". Muslims have clear-cut alternatives faced with the new reality: they can adopt the attitude of the aggrieved victim or they can confront their difficulties. Nothing will change until they accept full responsibility for themselves, become constructively critical, and self-critical; until they respond to the creeping "evolution of fear" with a firmly grounded "revolution of trust". It is clear that governments, here in Britain and elsewhere in the West, have a role to play in bridging divisions , and in tackling extremism. To call upon Muslim scholars and leaders to be involved in this process, as Tony Blair did after the 7 July attacks, was a positive initiative. But it is important not only to listen to the recommendations but also to be committed to implementing them. Muslims will reject being dictated to, but the Government nevertheless has a crucial role in supporting and facilitating dialogue at the local level. The responsibility is a shared one however. Muslims must express confidence in themselves, in their ability to engage as full members of the societies in which they reside. The revolution I hope for requires self-confidence, especially among young Muslims. Their task is to reappropriate their heritage, and to develop toward it a positive yet critical intellectual attitude. They should affirm that the teachings of Islam summon Muslims to spiritual life and to self-reform, but that Muslims are also expected to respect the laws of the countries in which they reside. Western Muslims must develop a critical discourse that rejects victimhood, and that criticises radical or literal readings of religious teachings. It is also important not to conflate or confuse religion with separate debates: social problems are not religious problems and have nothing to do with Islam as such. Those who exploit divisions and fears seek to create precisely what they claim to combat: by perpetually accusing Muslims of not being integrated and of shutting themselves up in a religious identity, they try to isolate them. Thus, instead of withdrawing into isolation, Muslims in Britain and other European countries must make themselves heard, step out of their religious and social ghettos . We must commit to a far deeper degree of integration or "social mixing" in education and in our cities. We ought for example to ask ourselves if faith-oriented schools, are a solution in achieving better understanding or whether they will be counterproductive. Muslims have a responsibility to be fully engaged in helping to reconcile the societies in which they live with the proclaimed ideals of those societies. It is vital to constantly measure ideals and values against human rights and equality as they operate in practice, and Muslims must not be afraid to measure words against deeds. But all of us, Muslims and non-Muslims alike, have a duty to address the flawed discourse that perpetuates the notion of "us" and "them". Our societies are awaiting the emergence of a new "we". A "we" that would bring together men and women of all religions and those without religion, who would undertake to resolve the contradictions of their societies. This coming together of citizens who seek to struggle together for their future, is also the best hope for isolating the extremists. The writer is professor of Islamic Studies at Oxford University. He will speak at Islam Expo which runs until Sunday at Alexandra Palace, London Readers have left 22 comments.
Bilal Patel:
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I agree to a large extent with what is being said in the article. One thing that Muslims must not do is to accept the terms of the debate, and accept it's labels, thereby granting legitimacy to a false discussion about Muslims. The rules of the game have changed, and Muslims will no longer want to seek the approval of the Great White Master in order to function as citizens. Muslims must seek to argue issues on their own terms and it is not up to Tony Blair or anyone else to seek a Pavlovian 'Islam is a religion of peace' from the House Muslims (pacified Uncle Toms like Khalid Mahmood and other so-called 'community leaders'). In terms of the war on terror, the response of Muslims should be the realistic 'If you bomb Muslims in their countries, Muslims will bomb you in yours, whether you like it or not'. There is no negotiation with this stance simply because it is a fact.
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2006-07-06 23:55:43
Ashraf Berielwi:
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What a load of rubbish! Instead of speaking out against atrocities we must criticise ourselves and the Quran. He should tell that to the Palestinian children who are being bombed at the moment. Maybe they are not victims for him. Mr Ramadan needs to think more for himself instead of parroting the formulas provided by his non-Muslim interfaith connections. The ones who convinced him to call for a ban on some Quranic verses, for marriage of Muslim women to non-Muslim men to be allowed, and claiming the authority of an alim, which he is certainly not, even by a long shot. All scholars of all the major schools of thought agree that to criticise the Quran is kufr, yet we find Mr Ramadan encouraging Muslims to do precisely that over and over. Does he not realise what a dangerous consequence that will bring for him on the Day of Judgement? Everyone should be aware that showing appreciation for this kind of thinking is also very dangerous. It could lead to the stamping the heart with a seal of ignorance.
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2006-07-07 00:07:08
R Davies:
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Surely Mr. Patel if Muslims consider it legitimate to respond with violence to any act of violence by non-Muslims regardless of their involvement in the act of violence, as you claim. Then surely by logical progression if non-Muslims are subjected to violence by Muslims in one part of the world, then non-Muslims have the right to take violent action against the Muslim community wherever they find them. So if a Muslim in Afganistan kills a non-Muslim in the name of Islam or whatever, does this mean that non-Muslims in UK have the right to attack Muslims?
It seems to me that you want the right to carry out acts of violence on a basis they you seek to deny non-Muslims. That I would suggest is a very dangerous path to follow.
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2006-07-07 07:29:02
kal:
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It is important not to overlook the racist undertones to this debate. Through the 90s, outright racism was on the wane. By general substituation of the word 'muslim' for 'black', you can say what you like, about much the same people, but without the anticracist comeback. In fact, liberal society will violently defend your 'right to criticise religion'. Regarding the foreign policy issue, the relationship between us and Iraq is very much a 'perpetrator/ crime' one. True, Blair lied; true, most of us still didn't support him; but also true, we reelected him. Why are the Israelis currently attacking the whole of the Palestinian population, if not on because their elected Govt is anti Israel? The only way to overcome this reasoning is to overcome it everywhere. We must stop ALL the atrocities with 'jaw jaw'. Otherwise mendacious megalomaniacs like Blair and cleptomaniacs like Bush and his neocons will lead us into endless 'war war'. This includes withdrawal and reparations to Iraq and Afghanistan, apply international law to Israel, and punishment for crimes against humanity wherever they occur via the Intenational Criminal Court.
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2006-07-07 12:50:28
Bilal Patel:
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Oh dear, R Davies clearly doesn't understand the difference between reality and what we want. We don't always get what we want. For example, Blair wants the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq to be cost free. This is not the reality. For, if the Great White Man drops a bomb upon the black hoardes, then you can't blame the black hoardes from learning the lesson and striking back. This is the reality and neither R Davies nor any other apologist can explain it away except through racist arguments. You declare war on others - others will declare war on you. Simple.
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2006-07-07 14:27:28
Sajid:
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I agree with Asraf, the is a reason why Tariq Ramadan is being promoted so much by the Western media. He is calling Muslims to ignore Ulama and do ijtihad for themselves. This is like asking patients to write their own prescriptions. Tariq talks a lot of good things but if you look carefully, in between his many nice words there is nasty bits of poisons. Poisons against scholars, poisons against verses of the Quran, poisons against hadith and against Muslim workers. Actually, he admits in the Prospect Magazine interview (July 2006)that it was only the US ban that made him a hero. Could this be a ploy of US to make Muslims accept him. Why did the US Embassy sponsor him in their Rome conference when he is supposed to be banned from the US? We need to be very careful with this guy . He is dangerous and as Ashraf says, he is dabbling in kufr. Also because of his continuous attacks on Ulama and the Quran, and his calling for European version of Islam, he is now banned from going to Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
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2006-07-07 16:40:36
Saj:
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Mr R Davies states
"if non-Muslims are subjected to violence....then non-Muslims have the right to take violent action against the Muslim community wherever they find them" Mr Davies in case you hadn't realised this is what non-muslims do anyway it is policy. Al Qaeda attacks America so non-muslims kill and slaughter INNOCENT children in Afghanistan and then INNOCENT children in Iraq and soon INNOCENT children in Iran. This has always been the way.
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2006-07-07 19:15:22
shuja:
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I am shocked by Ashraf's comment…did Tariq Ramadan really say that Muslim women can marry non-Muslim men in Islam? I wonder if he would allow his daughters to marry non-Muslims? Maybe that should be his punishment from God!!!
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2006-07-08 07:20:32
wendy mann:
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i think tariq ramadan may have a serious point in that muslims do need to be more of society, to integrate so as to have their voices heard from positions of influence and power.
the first step must be very much along of mpac, in getting the wider community to understand one voice is better than many lost in the wiond and that muslims must recognise where their interests lay. it certainly does not lay with blair who is a signed up member of the neo conservative ideology. however it is not for tariq ramadan to deny islam to muslims, solely because it serves his political interests and gets him access to people with power. there are just too many of this self serving individuals who get more airtime than is deserved.
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2006-07-08 11:52:35
Maulana Hafeezud Din:
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Who is this Tariq Ramadhan? This man has insulted the Holy Qur'an and the Ulama! Marriage is allowed with Ahl ul Kitaab; tell me when the kuffaar stated that Hadhrat Esa and Hadhart Uzair (Alay Himussalaam) were the sons of Allah Taa'la (Allah Taa'la forbid), then they are NO longer Ahl ul Kitaab, but, Pagans and Mushriks.
(Maulana) Hafeezud Din Birmingham
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2006-07-08 11:53:37
Mohsin beg:
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I dont think their has ever been a problem, with the Western Muslims. The problem is this : We are being used as a "SCAPEGOAT" for the failure of government policies. I mean TONY BLAIR is hugely in DENIAL, that 7/7 was interlinked due to the IRAQ WAR. Muslims make a Positive contribution to the European Economies, and even in Sports, look at "Zidane" or arts look at "Cat Stevens". Especially when it comes to Entreprenuship in the retailing and Food Sectors, we are at the forefront. WE are made to feel we are "backward" and "Isolated". What we need is to weild political and MEDIA influence. We need to be more proactive and not reactive. We need to be at the forefront in all important phases of life. 10 years ago , all this "Rheortic" we hear against MUSLIMS today would never EXIST, if Blair;s pathethic GOVERNMENT didnt INTERVENE in the WAR. Bottomline : BLAIR wants us to support his IRAQ WAR. Well aint happening !!!
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2006-07-08 20:42:48
R. Davies:
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I would like those who have responded to my comments to re-read it, and think.
Far from advocating any form of violence, I am challenging everyone to be judged upon the same criteria. The concept of an eye for an eye results only in vast numbers of blind people. Mr. Patel's claim of racism exists only in his own head, and is largely transference of his own prejudices.
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2006-07-10 07:02:56
Reply to Wendy:
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Yes, Muslims do need to be part of the wider society and have their voices heard, but we cannot have puppets like Tariq Ramadan telling us that the price we must pay for entry into society is allowing free-access to our daughters and critising verses of the Quran. We can be part of society without having to give up the core aspects of our religion and cultural values. Tariq Ramadan is an intellectual puppet just like the political puppets leading our countries in the Arab world. Attacking the Quran takes one out of the fold of Islam. Following him is a path to kufr, the is no doubt about this.
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2006-07-10 10:08:55
R. Davies:
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The comment "Reply to Wendy" identifies the core of the issue.
In the UK women are not chattel and have not been regarded as such for over a century. You do not own or have charge over your daughters, mothers, sisters or aunts, they may do as they wish. Further this country has a well established tradition of being able to challenge all and any ideas robustly, including verses of "Holy Texts". Sometimes it's very hard to accept. These freedoms and rights are the cornerstone of this society, and have been won over the centuries through bitter struggle. These rights also include the right of freedom of worship that allows non-Anglicans to establish places of worship virtually wherever they wish. It is these rights that have helped create the dynamic and diverse society that UK is today, wealthy and tolerant. Were this not so there would probably be no Muslim communities to speak of here.
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2006-07-10 18:40:43
Reply to Ashraf:
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I beleive we should follow professor Ramadan. He is a real professor because he has many degrees and the important people like the PM respect him. Islam has to be reformed before it can become acceptable to western people. We are all western people because we grew up here we have western values. I don't mind if my sister don't wear hijab or have a non-Muslim boy friend. When in Rome do as the Romans do.
Salman Khan (BA Islamic Studies graduate)
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2006-07-10 19:16:47
Mike:
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Bad luck guys, you live in the west so the quran & islam is free to be critisised whether you like it or not. Accept that some of your women will run off with non-muslim men whether you like it or not. Accept that if you carry out acts of violence in the name of your religion you will get it back...worse. By the way, have you read 'the Satanic Verses'? It's a great book!
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2006-07-11 05:38:15
Moulana:
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How nice!! When we stop acting like victims the oppressors will be able to continue to victimise Muslims around without any fear of us speaking out. What a brillian plan Mr Ramadan? Have you taken a look at the number voices on behalf of victims in the Jewish community out there? I guess not, you are probably too busy with your INTERFARSE DIALOUGE and leaning new ways to slag off the Muslim community and criticise Islam and the Quran. Your are false prophet who seeks only your own publicity at the expense of Islam and Muslims. The Prophet Muhammad on who be peace has warned us about people like you!!! Dajjaluna kazzabun!!!
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2006-07-11 09:57:00
Reply to Mike:
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People are free to criticise everything in the West unless it happens to be connected with the Jewish community in some way. Try criticising the Holocaust industry and see what happens to you. Look what happened to the Mayor of London. Yes, some of our women will run off but our but we should try to minimise the numbers, what Tariq Ramadan is trying to do is open the flood gate and make it hard for our women to marry Muslims with being accused of isolationist practicises. As for your reference to the satanic verses, I can see why you are attracted to it. You wrote about bombing and killing like satan himself would do it - with glee !!!
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2006-07-11 14:02:29
Arzu:
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I think Tariq Ramadan is a very sincere person but also very confused and malleable. His main aim is to make Islam and Muslims acceptable to the West but he does not have the deep knowledge and intellectual capacity you need for that kind of thing and so he is constantly relying on ideas offered to him by non-Muslim academics. If you read his book all you find is old Orientalist arguments repackaged to make it look like it is coming from a “Muslim” mind. It is quite sad to see him acting, as someone said below, as an spineless intellectual puppet.
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2006-07-12 14:29:17
mohsin:
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Re: Salman Khan To "reform" the teachings of the Quran, to undermine the implementations of the "Sunnah", to suggest that muslim sisters should have, "kaffur" type Sexual relationships, commit "Zina", removal of "Hijab" which you seem to be advocating, my suggestion to YOU, would be, its better if you LEAVE this DEEN, and get OUT from being a "MUSLIM". Bottomline, you either accept ISLAM completely or you dont. No middle parts. Its potentially "passengers" like yourself whose activities would potentilly reflect the wrong kinds of image, of what being a Muslim is all about. In ISLAM, a Muslim, is a Muslim. None of this rehortic about "moderate islam" etc. Being a Muslim, means carrying a specific set of values, if you cant implement those values, you better evaulate who you really "are". Am fedup from "hyprocites" in this Community of ours like yourself. Your views, reflect your thoughts, and your thoughts are embedded in your actions. You must be reflecting the "FALSE" image of what the belief of a "MUSLIM" actually is. WE dont take our "GUIDANCE" from the "KAFFURS" about our DEEN. And Stop posting that Pathethic title of a BA islamic studies.
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2006-07-22 14:52:33
Not Barelvi:
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Muslims should stop acting like victims - taking a beating by everybody. A victim always blames someone else for their problems. The fact that Muslims sit idly while their puppet governments sit around and Lebanon burns is a good example of victim mentality. They sit around blaming America, UN etc but if they understood that the bombing of Lebanon could be stopped if the Arab governments imposed an oil embargo - how will the planes, tanks work without this oil? So why arent these Arabs helping the Lebanese by revolting against these puppet regimes?
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2006-08-08 17:47:10
tariq patel:
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tariq ramazan listen talk sense den come in real wolrd, 2live u need to fite, fite for our rites n deen,if not your letting everyone walk over you,,you need to sit back and take a look around and see whats actually going on around the world rather than commenting on muslim,,
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2007-05-30 14:54:40
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