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£5,000 TO FIGHT AN 'INTELLIGENT PALESTINE CAMPAIGN' Print E-mail
Tuesday, 04 March 2008
massacre_s.jpgOver 130 dead Palestinians and most Muslim groups have still done nothing to help them. Most Mosques will still be talking in Urdu and saying the traitor’s mantra - ‘no politics in the mosque’. Muslim groups will continue to pacify the Muslims, teaching them about trouser length, the beard and some sort of arcane knowledge of the so called ‘self’ - so they dont prioritse anyone else but themselves.

Other more sincere groups are sending Money to Palestine, that no matter how good intentioned, is simply not a feasible solution to the problem. Instead of addressing the root cause of the problem right here, they try to send bandages for the bullets they were not clever enough to stop in the first place. The reason why Israel gets away with it is because of their political and media power – and the money and time they spend to get it.

Muslim groups have created Muslims who simply do not know what to do, wasting their energies on sending bandages instead of stopping a war machine in the first place. Or worse walk around calling themselves practicing, but in reality being pacified with endless talks that don’t help anyone, but make everyone, feel like they are some how more Islamic because of it.

Why Is MPACUK’s approach so radically effective?

Once the Muslim, is educated, is taught to become a thinking and aware Muslim, that is active and engaged in protecting the community, he does not sit in idle talks feeling holy, he or she is out in the community ‘being good’.

MPACUK teaches Muslims to be true to their faith, stand up like men and women, not slaves or cowards. Real Muslims, a Muslim that is awake and spreads justice amongst the world, instead of a ‘dead’ Muslim that talks and sleeps but never acts to stop any crime or evil on this world.

MPACUK now has three branches, we intend to educate the Muslim public on how to get politically involved in the very process that ensures this Government backs Israel and teach you how the Israel lobby forces much of the Media into silence.


'Intelligent Action' For Palestine Campaign – Stop the Crime At Source


There is no point crying every time you see a Palestinian murdered, then give a few pounds to make yourself feel you have done something. Instead its time finally we take a long term approach and start to stop this crime at the source of the problem.

Its time to fund a proper year by year fight to stop Israel’s crime, hitting at the beating heart of the beast – its political and media muscle.

MPAC is the only group in the history of Britain to defeat a pro Israel MP. See VIDEO of MPAC campaign here. We have the know how to fight and win – we just needs the funds.

Here is the first stage of the intelligent Campaign.

   1. Give out a nationwide leafleting campaign to educate Muslims about how to politically engage with their MP and demand they defend the Palestinians, most Muslims simply do not understand how to make a political difference. It will also educate thousands of Muslims on how to tackle the Media war they are winning - this will cost over £1200 pounds

   2. MPACUK.org wants to deliver three talks this year on what you can do for Palestine to educate the Ummah so they are armed with real practical solutions on how to protect the Palestinians instead of going for a March or sending money over which are both the worst ways to actually stop the situation (better then nothing – but not strategically good enough to stop anything). This will cost us roughly £1000 pounds.
  
    3. Lastly we would like to send 3 members of Parliament over to Palestine to see for them what is going on there. Israel’s friends send approximately 12 Members of Parliament plus other journalists and other important political players every year. The Muslims currently send none. Thus most powerful people in the world then only hear one side of the story. MPAC wants to reverse this – we would ideally like to send more then three every year, but let us start small. It costs approximately 1000 pounds per MP to go to Palestine and see what is really going on there.


To fund this campaign please call: +44 (0) 870 7605594 or email us on info@mpacuk or use the facilty on our website to:
Eventually we need paid offices and staff to lobby right around the year - lets start small and grow.


Is the blood of 130 Shaheed not worth a few pounds of your money to fight for their families they left behind?

 

TRUST MPACUK - TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THE UMMAH, INSHAALLAH!





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Readers have left 32 comments.
Dom: Quote

Perhaps they are more concerned to help thousands of Darfuris, Iraqis, Afghans or Pakistanis grieving and injured over the weekend. No, wait, those guys were attacked by Muslims. It wouldn't look good.
(1) 2008-03-04 03:03:56
GL: Quote

If you want to do something that will make the government here stand up.

Why not get all the Muslims in this country to take their money out of haram banks and accounts and put them into an Islamic bank? Money is something that the government understands well, if banks start reporting losing lots and lots of customers they will take notice. Sure, banks such as HSBC do have Islamic Banking windows but why use such things when there are 100% Islamic banks such as the Islamic bank of Britain.

Why not get the Muslims in this country to boycot all the stores that sell Israeli products of which there are so many?
(2) 2008-03-04 10:24:36
A A: Quote

Perhaps they are more concerned to help thousands of Darfuris, Iraqis, Afghans or Pakistanis grieving and injured over the weekend. No, wait, those guys were attacked by Muslims. It wouldn't look good.
— Dom


What are you trying to prove DOM? You GIYUS make me sick. You try to divert the topic and take the focus off your murdering zionist friends who are killing Palestinians. I bet you sickos jump up and down in glee everytime a palestinian child is brutally killed in cold blooded murder.

Stick to the topic. They are trying to raise money to raise awareness of the brutal actions of Israel and to highlight the plight of the Palestinians who's country Israel has occupied illegally to commit war crimes and genocide/ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

(3) 2008-03-04 10:39:34
A A: Quote

If you want to do something that will make the government here stand up.

Why not get all the Muslims in this country to take their money out of haram banks and accounts and put them into an Islamic bank? Money is something that the government understands well, if banks start reporting losing lots and lots of customers they will take notice. Sure, banks such as HSBC do have Islamic Banking windows but why use such things when there are 100% Islamic banks such as the Islamic bank of Britain.

Why not get the Muslims in this country to boycot all the stores that sell Israeli products of which there are so many?
— GL


Good points but are you already involved in promoting such boycotts? If not why not. It is easy to tell others to do stuff but harder to join them and try to make a joint effort to stop war crimes being committed by Israel.
(4) 2008-03-04 10:52:37
GL: Quote

As-Salamu Alaykum,

You make a very good point is very easy for me to sit here and say that but not to do something my self.

Could you tell me, do we have a database for the email addresses of all the Mosques in the country so that i could start something?

Many Thanks

As-Salamu Alaykum

GL
(5) 2008-03-04 11:30:47
Dom: Quote

Perhaps they are more concerned to help thousands of Darfuris, Iraqis, Afghans or Pakistanis grieving and injured over the weekend. No, wait, those guys were attacked by Muslims. It wouldn't look good.
— A A


What are you trying to prove DOM? You GIYUS make me sick. You try to divert the topic and take the focus off your murdering zionist friends who are killing Palestinians. I bet you sickos jump up and down in glee everytime a palestinian child is brutally killed in cold blooded murder.

Stick to the topic. They are trying to raise money to raise awareness of the brutal actions of Israel and to highlight the plight of the Palestinians who's country Israel has occupied illegally to commit war crimes and genocide/ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

— Dom


I certainly don't take joy from that. But it is notable that you don't really give a toss about any of the other things I mentioned. Human rights and Muslim life. It isn't me making you sick, you just are. The reason those issues don't get any attention from the ummah at large is that there isn't such a clear and external enemy on whom to focus your rage, but in fact very severe things happen daily all across the Muslim world. And you don't care about those.
(6) 2008-03-04 13:14:13
bigeasy: Quote

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=29629935
(7) 2008-03-04 13:59:00
Sam: Quote

I'm advised that Pakistan operates interest based banking system, so more Islamic routes being provided by HSBC, Lloyds TSB etc than in an Islamic country. No wonder the Ummah is in such a mess. Our leaders are puppets with no spine.

Re. boycotting, I do boycott all Israeli products. But the number who do this are a few. Is impossible to get my family to understand why they should boycott these countries. Sadly everyone pre-occupied with their own trivial problems. Trivial because Masha'Allah we have food on our table, no-one can bomb or maim our children without a fair chance of justice being done and no-one's going to bulldoze my home, shame on any muslims who wear CAT clothing. Those with tangible power, ie rich arabs flout these boycotts such one who has shares in Disney Paris just for greed. Allah SWT will brandish them with the money they have acquired through unethiccal means. With great wealth comes great responsibility.
(8) 2008-03-04 14:22:39
Mohsin: Quote

HSBC owns Islamic Bank of Britain. It would be an extremely difficult process and we all know for a fact that the mainstream, multi-millionaire banks would not take this lying down and neither would the government.
(9) 2008-03-04 15:39:07
Menachamendel: Quote

AA writes -
"...awareness of the brutal actions of Israel and to highlight the plight of the Palestinians who's country Israel has occupied illegally to commit war crimes and genocide/ethnic cleansing of Palestinians."

AA you are either plain stupid & ignorant or just a plain simple bigot. Which is it?
According to you Israel's reaction to years of indiscriminate rocket attacks is "brutal". What do you call the daily rocket attacks by your Hamas terrorist friends? A friendly gesture or brutal?
You claim "Israel has occupied illegally to commit war crimes and genocide/ethnic cleansing of Palestinians." To give you a simple history lesson - in 1967 the Arabs declared war on Israel - in the subsequent war Israel DEFEATED the enemy & thus gained territory as a result. That is NOT ILLEGAL occupation. As for the charge of "ethnic cleansing/genocide" - this is utter rubbish, if Hamas & Fatah want to msake peace Israel has been willing & waiting to talk. But lets face it, you lot donb't want Israel & the Jews there. You rewrite the whole history of the region to show it was always muslim land,wrong - muslims are late-comers & then you try to show the Jews "stole" the land that is Israel - wrong again, muslims received over 75% of Mandate Palestine. As for ethnic cleansing, this is just what the Israelis fear from your brothers,read the Hamas charter, its all there.
If you truly wish to see an end to all the misery, pain, hurt, deaths on both sides I suggest you all STOP SUPPORTING blood thirsty Hamas & Fatah terrorists who are daily firing indiscriminate rockets & planning "suicide" killings in Israel.
(10) 2008-03-04 17:30:01
Menachamendel: Quote

AA please note, here is the counter to your asertations that Israel is intent on genocide and all the other unfounded racist slurs you emmit, from a journal -
"Humanitarian aid in the form of medical supplies and food were transported into Gaza from Israel on Sunday despite ongoing rocket attacks on western Negev communities emanating from the region. Thousands of units of blood and other medical supplies, as well as basic food items were brought through the Sufa crossing in 62 trucks from Israel."
Doesn't seem to me to be the right sort of genocidal proof you scream about from the ignorance of your bigoted mind. I suggest, just the opposite. Agree?

(11) 2008-03-04 17:47:08
name this quote: Quote

"He hath disgrac'd me and hind'red me half a
million; laugh'd at my losses, mock'd at my gains, scorned my
nation, thwarted my bargains, cooled my friends, heated mine
enemies. And what's his reason?

I am a Palestinian. Hath not a Palestinian eyes?
Hath not a Palestinian hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections,
passions, fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons,
subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed
and cooled by the same winter and summer, as a Jew is?

If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we
not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you
in that.

If a Palestinian wrong a Jew, what is his humility?
Revenge.
If a Jew wrong a Palestinian, what should his sufferance
be by Jewish example?
Why, revenge. The villaiy you teach me
I will execute; and it shall go hard but I will better the
instruction."

forward this quote!!!!!!!
(12) 2008-03-04 18:12:01
shape shifter: Quote

Perhaps they are more concerned to help thousands of Darfuris, Iraqis, Afghans or Pakistanis grieving and injured over the weekend. No, wait, those guys were attacked by Muslims. It wouldn't look good.
— Dom


Israelis apologest arguement is that they should be free to slaughter Palestinians because other people are killing each other in the world!
If thats your morality say hi to the ****roach under the stone with you from me or better still learn some ethics from it....
(13) 2008-03-04 19:02:20
colin the Athiest: Quote

Perhaps they are more concerned to help thousands of Darfuris, Iraqis, Afghans or Pakistanis grieving and injured over the weekend. No, wait, those guys were attacked by Muslims. It wouldn't look good.
— A A


What are you trying to prove DOM? You GIYUS make me sick. You try to divert the topic and take the focus off your murdering zionist friends who are killing Palestinians. I bet you sickos jump up and down in glee everytime a palestinian child is brutally killed in cold blooded murder.

Stick to the topic. They are trying to raise money to raise awareness of the brutal actions of Israel and to highlight the plight of the Palestinians who's country Israel has occupied illegally to commit war crimes and genocide/ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

— Dom


AA ........ Hamas started the violence with rockets, would you weep for an Israeli child killed or maimed? No, I thought not.
(14) 2008-03-04 19:24:48
Tom: Quote

Hey A A....Why blame the the Israelis for trying to put a stop to the rocket attacks coming form Gaza? If somenoe was shooting at your house and you asked them to stop and they refuse... what would you do? Really! An 8 year old isreali boy had his leg amputated due to a rocket attack from Gaza... was he a murdering Zionist too? Where is your compassion for him?
Why don't the Palestinians take a page from Mahatma Gandhi and try peaceful resistance? Then they call on the sympathies of the world to stop any aggression on the Israeli side. I do not agree on firing random missles at civilians and then crying foul because Isreal shoots back. If both sides stop shooting no innocent children will die in the cross fire.
What do you think A A?
(15) 2008-03-04 21:50:15
mal: Quote

The most important things to boycott: Intel computer processors and websites that use PHP script (like the mpacuk forum)
(16) 2008-03-04 22:39:47
Barbarossa: Quote

Boycotts are a nice gesture but nothing to what the article is actually saying - political involvement, and getting involved in meeting and lobbying your MP.

Israel's Zionist friends probably help your local MP with money and time more then you do - who do you think he will back in this war?

Don't worry about pointless boycotts and - get political and do a fund raiser to send an MP over.

Else the Zionist word twisters and shape shifters who are trying to hijack this thread and divert you away from thinking clearly about the issue will have won.

The poster 'mal' is a classic example of how they want you to focus on pointless actions so you do not spend your energies on what really works.
(17) 2008-03-05 01:19:23
Barbarossa: Quote

If you want to do something that will make the government here stand up.

Why not get all the Muslims in this country to take their money out of haram banks and accounts and put them into an Islamic bank? Money is something that the government understands well, if banks start reporting losing lots and lots of customers they will take notice. Sure, banks such as HSBC do have Islamic Banking windows but why use such things when there are 100% Islamic banks such as the Islamic bank of Britain.

Why not get the Muslims in this country to boycot all the stores that sell Israeli products of which there are so many?
— GL


What a stupid thing to ask? Do you think getting all the Muslims to do this is practical? If so - go ahead and do it, update us on how far you got?

Read the article - and act upon it - stop asking Muslims to waste their time on something that is not within their capability.

Typical Muslim, doesnt do anything and then gives solutions that will never work!
(18) 2008-03-05 01:24:10
A A: Quote

As-Salamu Alaykum,

You make a very good point is very easy for me to sit here and say that but not to do something my self.

Could you tell me, do we have a database for the email addresses of all the Mosques in the country so that i could start something?

Many Thanks

As-Salamu Alaykum

GL
— GL


Email MPAC using the details on this website and hopefully someone should be able to help you with that.
(19) 2008-03-05 10:14:42
A A: Quote

To all the GIYUS trying to justify Israels ILLEGAL AGRESSION you guys are sick and twisted terrorists.

"Oh they started it so its justified"

"Others kill too so it's alright"

"You have no clue about history, we are superior and have the right to murder Muslims"

And so on and so on. How pathetic you sound. It doesn't matter how intellectual you try and make yourselves sound you are all sick twisted individuals who support the actions of ISRAEL THE TERRORIST STATE.

You seem to be enjoying seeing the killing. That is sick.You guys support terror and should be investigated under terrorism laws.
(20) 2008-03-05 10:22:06
A A: Quote

Actually does anyone in MPAC want to capture the IP addresses of those that are supporting Israel's terrorism and report them to the police as highly dangerous terror suspects?
(21) 2008-03-05 10:38:42
Rob: Quote

Tom what would you do if someone took your home and kicked out your family and called you terrorist when you wanted what was yours.

no occupation no resistance.
(22) 2008-03-05 12:33:04
Menachamendel: Quote

AA - you have a deeply disturbed and sick mind. If you came to me for a consultation,based on your writings I would suggest you go for a long course of psychological assesment and anger and hatred management.
Oh brother do you need it and sooner rather than later.
(23) 2008-03-05 13:08:32
Colin the Athiest: Quote

Actually does anyone in MPAC want to capture the IP addresses of those that are supporting Israel's terrorism and report them to the police as highly dangerous terror suspects?
— A A


AA: MPAC have my and other email addresses and they are welcome to send them to the police .... however, I and most others here are not anti muslim or pro israeli. All I am here for is to debate with rational people about very important British and World Affairs. It's a pity you do not. Wipe the froth from your mouth, take the blinkers off and interact in discussion with believers and non-believers and we all may just start understanding each other.
(24) 2008-03-05 22:13:58
m: Quote

AA..you are no better than the people you say are terrorists,,your knowledge is limited and your language incediary..MPAC is a public forum..you are incapable of seeing the whole picture..hamas relish civilian deaths more than israel..and im not pro israeli or anti muslim im just someone who reads books about real history from both sides of the issue,,not websites that spread hate like im sure you get your info from..i saw a kids funeral this morning on euro news in palestine,,it looked like a PR exercise for hamas..israel and palentinian civilians are the losers here..you relish in this..you are a hypocrite sir..your answer to me will be 'you zionist' etc..well im not..
(25) 2008-03-06 16:22:34
SSW: Quote

Instead of barking at each other about who is more of a terrorist! why not both use your heads to solve the situation. think peace not who stole whose candy first! so far what i have seen of mpacs doing is 'nothing' but cause 'trouble' in the media eye!
(26) 2008-03-06 18:34:58
Tom: Quote

Hey Rob, if someone took my home and kicked out my family and called you terrorist I would fight with all legal means at my disposale, if it was a military force I would fight that military... I would not kill men, women and children indescriminately because I am not a murderer.

Murderes always find justification for their actions but it never makes them right. How can murder solve anything? Even if you kill all the people who did you wrong you would soon find another justification to kill. Imagine all the injustice done in the world. Now imagine every one that was wronged began to kill indiscriminately... who would be left? No one... we have all been wronged, we have all been hurt, all been humiliated.

I am a Canadian and we seem to have this image of a peace loving country... Have you read our history? Some of it is pure evil. The native population have died by the hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, we have stolen their children to re-educate them and break their culture and then let them die of disease and neglect, not to mention the sexual abuse. This is our history. I wish I could say things are better now but the pain of this history is still with them. Yes they fought... and they died. Their land was taken from them through death and promises. Have they resorted to killing anyone they hold respensible for their pain? Man, woman or child? No. They do not resort to evil because evil was done to them. They are proud of their culture and heritage and do the best they can to move on and make live better for their children. They do not teach thier children to hate and kill. They are Good people.
I will not say that our native population has suffered more than the palistinians but I will say that if murder was justified they have more than enough justification.

And Rob... there is a difference between murder and resistance. If passive resistace worked for Gandi and the Indian people against the British why won't it work for the Palestinians?
Tom
(27) 2008-03-06 22:32:15
Rob: Quote

Tom you try peaceful means for decades nothing happens,you protest your are beaten and your bones broken.

your children in frustation throw stones and they are shot and killed,the law does not help you.

this goes on and on what will you do,the guy who took over your home is armed to the teeth by his buddies,but when you throw a stone you are called a terrorist but when he shoots all types of weapons at you and your family he is classed as defending his home.

please respond honestly what will you do, you do not have weapons with pinpoint accuracy nobody helps you what will you do.

the reason why the natives cannot fight back is because you have wiped them out to near extinction,what can hundreds of thousands of natives do against tens of millions of non natives,so your analogy on this occasion is flawed.

passive resistance did not work for gandhi it was world war two that forced us to leave.
(28) 2008-03-07 10:35:52
Barbarossa: Quote

Actually does anyone in MPAC want to capture the IP addresses of those that are supporting Israel's terrorism and report them to the police as highly dangerous terror suspects?
— Colin the Athiest


AA: MPAC have my and other email addresses and they are welcome to send them to the police .... however, I and most others here are not anti muslim or pro israeli. All I am here for is to debate with rational people about very important British and World Affairs. It's a pity you do not. Wipe the froth from your mouth, take the blinkers off and interact in discussion with believers and non-believers and we all may just start understanding each other.
— A A


You are a pro Israel racist - please stop hiding behind the cover of being British.
(29) 2008-03-07 12:32:21
Tom: Quote

Hey Rob, I hear what you are saying. I will say that if it came down to it I would kill and die to protect my family. But I would not murder children to get a house or a piece of land lost to my family decades ago. You mention that the Palestinians don't have any weapons of pinpiont accuracy... does that make it ok to taget civilians? What about suicide bombers... they seem to be accurate. They target women and children and they kill women and children. How can you justify the deliberate killing of children no matter what their grandparents did?
Let me ask you... would you kill children to try and get whats yours? If a gang of thugs took your possessions, beat you and humiliated you. But they are armed to the teeth and you don't feel you can fight them head to head do you then resort to killing the women and children in thier extended families? Are you willing to stap a bomb to your sons back to get revenge on the people who wronged you?
Does the end justify the means?

There is no way things will every return to the ways things were before the creation of Isreal. There is no way to return North America to a time before the white man came. Or to return Germany to the way it was before the concentration camps. The only thing that can be done for a positive solution is to negociate a peace and create a Palistinian state. Nothing will be solved by more killing.

I would like to khow your views on the I.R.A.. Were their actions justified? Did the people they killed deserve to die?

Tom
(30) 2008-03-09 04:24:35
Tom: Quote

Rob, I think you missed my point with what I said about the natives in Canada. Its not about how many you have to fight with or your odds of winning anything but how you conduct yourself. Are they happy about the past or their current situation? No. Are they willing to kill women and children to vent their anger at those who now live on what was their land? No way. They do not strap bombs onto their sons to use them to kill as many innocents as they can. They do not fill their childrens heads with hate and bloodlust so that the cycle of violence continues.
Tell me... what is your line that has to be crossed before you resort to murdering women and children? Do you think you will celebrate over their deaths and feel justified in your actions?

So... what would it take?

Tom
(31) 2008-03-09 07:56:05
Tom: Quote

Rob, I think you missed my point with what I said about the natives in Canada. Its not about how many you have to fight with or your odds of winning anything but how you conduct yourself. Are they happy about the past or their current situation? No. Are they willing to kill women and children to vent their anger at those who now live on what was their land? No way. They do not strap bombs onto their sons to use them to kill as many innocents as they can. They do not fill their childrens heads with hate and bloodlust so that the cycle of violence continues.
Tell me... what is your line that has to be crossed before you resort to murdering women and children? Do you think you will celebrate over their deaths and feel justified in your actions?

So... what would it take?

Tom
(32) 2008-03-09 08:06:26
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