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Ten Tips For Dealing With GIYUS Print E-mail
Wednesday, 27 February 2008

zionist_graffiti_170.jpg If, like many people, you are disgusted by the behaviour of Israel and happen to blog about, say, the latest massacre in Gaza; the desperate situation the Palestinians are in; the carnage in Lebanon or the provocation of UNIFIL peacekeepers; the threat of attacking Iran or any of the other nefarious deeds that Israel is allowed to get away with, then there is a reasonable chance that you may attract the attention of GIYUS.

You’ll know when that has happened when you find your post bombarded by comments (usually anonymous and looking remarkably similar) attempting to justify those actions and attacking you for daring to mention them.

A quick look at your stats will confirm that you’ve been GIYUSed. If this bothers you, here are some tips which may put a stop to the attack, or at least lessen the flow of moronic comments. Of course I can’t guarantee that they will work, all I can say is that they seemed to work for me when I became their target.

First of all don’t be intimidated, that’s what this little army of cyber soldiers want you to be. Instead you could try the following:

  1. Update your post straight away explaining what has happened and adding a little bit about GIYUS for those unfamiliar with this annoying pressure group. This also lets the GIYUS bots know that you’re on to them.
  2. If possible, add some links to previous posts you might have written on the issues to show that you are not going to be intimidated by their antics.
  4. Refute their ‘arguments’ in the comments. This is easy as they really don’t have any. Their comments go along the lines of “it is about time that Israel completely ignore any condemnation of our effort to stay alive and have a simple life in a and keep pounding at the Palestinians…”. Also they don’t stick around to argue, debate is the last thing they want and its what they are trying to stifle. They just do as they are directed by GIYUS.
  6. On no account say anything which they could construe as being anti-Semitic. That is exactly what they want. Not only is anti-Semitism so obviously wrong but you’ll be lowering yourself to their level. Their main objective is to ‘prove’ that anyone who disagrees with Israeli policies is a) anti-Semitic, b) a Holocaust denier, and c) an ‘Islamo-fascist’. To do this they try to blur the distinctions between ‘Zionist’, ‘Israeli’ and ‘Jewish’.
  8. Use reliable news sources to back up your points. If you can find items from Israeli sources, so much the better. Haaretz and B’TSalem are useful.
  10. Invite others to join in the fun, it makes the thread more balanced and much more interesting. It also saves you from having to repeat yourself or respond to every comment.
  12. Don’t delete their comments unless they really are particularly offensive. That just makes it look like you haven’t got an answer to them. Leave their comments up so we can all have a good laugh at them.
  14. Use humour. Believe me, these commenters have as much sense of humour as Ian Paisley on a bad day, and they don’t like having the piss taken out of them (who does?). The issues are deadly serious for both sides of the argument but the point here is to stop GIYUS bullying you into remaining silent about them.
  16. If other bloggers link to your post then even more people will see it thus rendering their efforts to silence you completely counter-productive. I’ll take this opportunity to thank the Curious Hamster, Obsolete and D-Notice for linking to my post which helped GIYUS’s attack on me backfire.
  18. GIYUS has been particularly effective in distorting or wrecking on-line polls. If you are conducting a poll about Israel and you find that GIYUS members turn up in great numbers to distort the result, my advice would be to shut it down immediately and post a message explaining why. I haven’t conducted a poll about Israel but it’s what I’d do if I found my poll being distorted by GIYUS.
Source: http://netherworld.wordpress.com/200...ng-with-giyus/

If you have any tips on how to deal with the GIYUS propaganda machine, please let us know in the comments section below.


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Readers have left 8 comments.
Hamza: Quote

One of the things MPAC UK could do is not to censor posts at MPAC UK (as you suggest) so as to expose their thinking and allow them to make their case so it can be refuted by other posters. I have had feedback that you don't allow posts critical of MPAC or posts which put the other side. (I wonder if you will censor this!)
(1) 2008-02-27 07:49:59
Colin: Quote

What on earth is GIYUS?
(2) 2008-02-27 09:28:33
Patricia Masood: Quote

Hamza

Your are so wrong.

From what I have seen MPAC does NOT censor posts critical of itself. Indeed, given that it is a 'Muslim' Public Affairs Committee, it even allows posts by 'Hadithite',Quraan-Denying Munafiqs (hypocrites) or Allah-partnering Mushriqs [one who associates partners with Allah -- e.g. "Al-Bukhari's word is the same as (or even greater than) a Qraanic Ayat"]. There are people who post here who believe in pedo-marriages, because they hideously believe that that's 'Islamic'.

So, the one thing MPAC doesn't do is 'censor'. Come on, how do you think so many supporters of Israel get their messages published?

As for GIYUS, when they have no legitimate arguments, what else can they try but foul means? You can't defend the indefensible.
(3) 2008-02-27 10:58:55
brother: Quote

Patricia

I am afraid that you just said a lie. You do censor messages. That's fine, it doesnt bother me because you have not published several of my messages but remember, hypocrisy is what is hated the most by Allah. But that's fine, he knows best, and this hypocritical behaviour of yours......
(4) 2008-02-27 16:10:20
K. Urban: Quote

A strong assumption of GIYUS, in Israels's case, is that whatever is being done by Israeli politicians is undenaibly good for Israel and must thus be blindly supported.
Israel is doing enormous damage to its own international image in the way it is abusing the Palestinians.
Whilst Israelis party and booze on, Palestinians get starved and incarcerated in the Auschwitz Mark II that is the Gaza Strip.
(5) 2008-02-27 16:35:18
john: Quote

Why on earth shouldn't Israels' supporters be organized?The anti-Israel movement is extensive and highly organized,(MPAC a regular contributor.)As for Gaza being Auschwitz,100% untrue and deliberately misleading and offensive.
(6) 2008-02-28 13:54:24
omar: Quote

PEOPLE

once again we are infighting. The article is on GIYUS and yet we have drawn our attention away from that.

Could we stop this censorship debate and confront GIYUS.
(7) 2008-02-28 14:26:52
J Ching: Quote

What on earth is GIYUS?
— Colin

http://giyus.org/
(8) 2008-02-28 18:59:10
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