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| HEAT OR EAT? Our Government is Putting Zionist Interests Before Our Elderly Citizens |
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| Tuesday, 05 February 2008 | |
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With energy prices soaring, the current Government’s provision to make sure that pensioners are warm and properly cared for in winter is becoming more and more inadequate. At the same time it is impoverishing the elderly and their families, who increasingly have to pay for basic social services. So who do I blame for this horrible mess? I blame the warmongers in our Government. I blame the Neocons and the Zionists who are dictating how the Treasury spend our money. Let's take Iraq as an example. Our Government has wasted over £6 billion already on this illegal and immoral war, which instead could have been spent on caring for the elderly and the vulnerable. In fact, experts say the figure of £6 billion plus still underestimates the true total because it does not take into hidden costs such as extra salaries and the long-term care for soldiers who have suffered mentally and physically. Let me give you some statistics: - The cost of bowing to the Zionist Lobby is having such great effect on the Social Services that 2.2 million pensioners, before housing costs, and 1.8 million after housing costs, are in poverty (1) - In the winter of 2005-2006 there were 23,200 more deaths in England and Wales amongst people over the age of 65 compared to levels in the non-winter period. Unfortunately this is set to rise (2) - This country has one of the highest winter death tolls in Europe - higher than many countries with colder climates and higher fuel prices (3) Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that our Foreign Policy and the money we have spent on it is the sole reason for the deaths of our elderly but it definitely is a big contributor. Unfortunately, the longer our country continues to listen to the right-wing Neocons and Zionists, the situation is just going to get worse. The warmongers in our media, in our Government and in public life don’t care about Britain. They just care about supporting the USA and Israel regardless of what impact it has on our economy and public services. If anyone does care for Britain, it’s MPACUK. References: (1) Age Concern Key Facts and Statistics 2007 http://www.ageconcern.org.uk/AgeConcern/Documents/Key_facts.pdf (2) Age Concern Key Facts and Statistics 2007 http://www.ageconcern.org.uk/AgeConcern/Documents/Key_facts.pdf (3) Help the Aged http://www.helptheaged.org.uk/en-cy/...ths_061106.htm
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davi:
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I blame the Palestinians. If we didn't give them so much aid. Actually no. I blame Norwegians. Stamp collectors. Elton John and anything else that springs to mind. It all fits the spurious, disconnected argument template you've established here in order to get a cheap shot in at the boogeyman Zionists.
Even the BNP would baulk at such a tenuous argument. Let's see...how can I blame Muslims for hay fever.
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2008-02-06 01:10:33
davi:
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I wonder how many of your members type "ZIONISTS" in response to the security question "Most of Planet Earth is covered by".
Yes - we freeze the elderly. We put snooker on the TV. We let down your tyres. It's us Zionists that made you miss your bus. We put chemicals in the water that ensures you don't get girlfriends. When Pakistan loses at cricket - look for the real reason: Zionists. It's not you are demonising us. It's not that you are deranged. We seriously control everything folks. Why do you think MPACUK is allowed to operate? That's right. They are MOSSAD agents. Zionists set up this site and post these stories - just to make Muslims look like deranged racists. Right - I'm off to sharpen my horns and put the blood of a Christian virgin into my special Zionist passover bread.
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2008-02-06 01:21:27
Paul M:
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A nice one to try and pin on the Zionists, but it won't really wash.
1. UK defence expenditure is at a fairly low historic level. 2. The war in Iraq was opposed by Israel (we now know the Israeli government warned the US government against it.) 3. The war in Iraq was opposed by most American Jews, over 75% of whom voted against Bush. (And the overwhelming majority of these are 'Zionists' and a bedrock of support for Israel.) 4. The war in Afgansitan is costing the UK more money and manpower than that in Iraq. How are the Zionists to blame for it? 5. Whereas Israel and the US Jews opposed the war in Iraq and had no involvement in the war in Afghanistan at all, good 'friends of the Palestinians' like Clare Short voted in favour of both in cabinet and on the floor of the House.
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2008-02-06 07:52:01
Andy Gill:
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Typical MPAC disinformation. The Age Concern report you refer to does not contain a single mention of Zionism. In the opinion of many people, the strains on Britain's social services are mainly due to large scale immigration, much of it from Muslim countries. If you care about this country (which I seriously doubt) I suggest you address this issue.
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2008-02-06 10:35:04
reality's sister:
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Dear MPAC:
I think you're stretching it a bit by conflating the Zionist infiltration of British establishment with lack of spending on care for the elderly. Whilst I agree that but for the war to protect another country, HMG would have more money to spend, I think that funding, generally is a bone of contention. What we as Muslims should be doing is to organise care/visits/transport for the elderly in the UK (regardless of religion). Why not mobilise Muslims to enquire about their elderly neighbours' welfare; offer to do errands, e.g. go to the shops etc; help with domestic chores; accompany them to hospital appointments; donate unwanted TVs etc etc. It is this kind of action that's going to benefit the Ummah more than all the Jilbaabs/Niqaabs and Beards put together. Muslim is as Muslim does; not 'Muslim is as Muslim dresses'. So, MPAC: how about organising training sessions on how to help your elderly neighbours? As for the Zionists: their days are numbered. Both is the US and in the UK, their nefarious influence has been rumbled, and the general public can see through their subterfuge. The 'goyim' are fighting back.
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2008-02-06 11:51:07
MAQ:
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Yeah this really was a bullet in the foot trying to establish a link between the Zionist agenda and the failings of our government to provide proper social care to the elderly.
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2008-02-06 13:40:49
Giggling:
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This was so funny, I just loved it, can you post some more jokes like this? I specially liked it when all the other zionists took your article seriously and got all excited about it! pavlovian or what?
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2008-02-06 14:04:26
Neil O'Rourke:
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It seems the article is upsetting the racists and war mongers. Its Common sense, we've wasted billion on a foreign policy when it would have been better we spent that money on the vulnerable and needy.
Of course the zionist dont care about public services. All they are worried about is Israel Israel Israel. they put Israels interest before the UK!
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2008-02-06 15:14:05
Craig:
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Dear MPAC: — reality's sisterI think you're stretching it a bit by conflating the Zionist infiltration of British establishment with lack of spending on care for the elderly. Whilst I agree that but for the war to protect another country, HMG would have more money to spend, I think that funding, generally is a bone of contention. What we as Muslims should be doing is to organise care/visits/transport for the elderly in the UK (regardless of religion). Why not mobilise Muslims to enquire about their elderly neighbours' welfare; offer to do errands, e.g. go to the shops etc; help with domestic chores; accompany them to hospital appointments; donate unwanted TVs etc etc. It is this kind of action that's going to benefit the Ummah more than all the Jilbaabs/Niqaabs and Beards put together. Muslim is as Muslim does; not 'Muslim is as Muslim dresses'. So, MPAC: how about organising training sessions on how to help your elderly neighbours? As for the Zionists: their days are numbered. Both is the US and in the UK, their nefarious influence has been rumbled, and the general public can see through their subterfuge. The 'goyim' are fighting back. To bring you back to reality. we have something called a welfare system that should be caring an dlooking after the vulnerable and needy. Speak to anybody in the public service and voluntary sector and they'll say to you that fudning is a problem not that this government does not have money but its because this government is more interested in spending on a foreign policy. And then on top of that we send our troops to war and then not give them proper equipment. We are not thinking as a government and are just bothered about pleasing the israel lobby.
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2008-02-06 15:20:18
Will:
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Typical MPAC disinformation. The Age Concern report you refer to does not contain a single mention of Zionism. In the opinion of many people, the strains on Britain's social services are mainly due to large scale immigration, much of it from Muslim countries. If you care about this country (which I seriously doubt) I suggest you address this issue. — Andy GillAndy, you a bit lost up there??? The reference are to the stats. And you need to check your stats about immigration. But I guess you wont cus you're a racist numptee. Most of the immigrants in the country are not muslims. Majority of them are European, and those from south asia (As you would refer to Pakis) are not all muslims. In fact its a split. They include Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims and other faiths. You must be a sun reader that blames immigrants for all the problems in the UK!
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2008-02-06 15:26:20
ravi:
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this story was clearly written by someone who wishes to discredit MPAC.
Find the Author and you've found your mole.
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2008-02-06 15:37:43
Battal Agha:
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You Muslims guys are an insult to Islam. You don't know what you are talking about. So sad..NO..so stupid yo Morons...
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2008-02-06 15:39:13
m:
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this is a cheap shot..are you naive or just stupid..do you think the money spent on iraq would be given to the people if we were not at war there..does tony blair work at mpac now,,;)
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2008-02-06 16:40:14
Charles Brooks:
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This is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. You truly are cretins.
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2008-02-06 16:52:11
Charles Brooks:
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So sad that you won't let me call you retards. But you know, you still are.
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2008-02-06 20:11:53
Tahira:
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Only someone deliberately playing dumb could fail to acknowledge that 6 billion pounds spent on the war on Iraq is 6 billion pounds less to spend on care for out elderly, hospitals, education for our British kids...
And maybe you don't believe MPAC about the Zionist influence on Western foreign policy (ooooh - must be just Muslims with conspiracy theories!), So read 'The Israel Lobby' by Harvard professors Mearsheimer and Walt.
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2008-02-06 23:48:53
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It's interesting to see the hatred from Zionists and their supportesr in the comments. They claim MPAC is the guilty one when they care about British interests.
How dare anyone suggest tha billions should not go to Israel the rogue state in the middle east. The only state that is allowed to commit atrocities far worse than Saddam openly and with the blessing of the same powers that strung him (Saddam) up. Mpac is right. Every penny spent on this war is because of those that beat the war drums and pushed the government into a war that slaughtered millions of innocent people who nobody really cares about because they were brown and Muslim. Those warmongers don't care about Britain or the British people. They don't care that the money wasted on war could have been put to a better use likesave the ailing economy and fractured and ragged, underfunded welfare system. For thinking people there is nothing ridiculous about this story and the link that it makes. The efforts that these guys go to to try and discredit anyone with a decent opinion just goes to show how finely tuned their defences and offences are. I am disappointed there are not more sane voices to counteract the propaganda that these guys spout against Muslims.
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2008-02-07 00:15:08
KB Player:
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“As for the Zionists: their days are numbered. Both is the US and in the UK, their nefarious influence has been rumbled, and the general public can see through their subterfuge. The 'goyim' are fighting back.”
I seek a little clarification from Reality’s Sister. The “goyim” is a Hebrew word meaning “non-Jews”. It is not usually used as opposite to Zionists but to Jews. So should the above paragraph read? “As for the Jews their days are numbered. Both is the US and in the UK, their nefarious influence has been rumbled, and the general public can see through their subterfuge. The 'goyim' are fighting back.” And could she(?) indicate who are these Jews who have this nefarious influence in the UK?
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2008-02-07 00:23:39
reality's sister:
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KB Player
My intention is absolutely 'Zionists' and not Jews in general. Semantics aside, we both know that Ultra Orthodox Jews are against Zionism. Any sane human being will see that Zionism is fictitous. Can the Red Indians claim back USA? And can the Aborigines demand that Australia should be returned to wilderness (which is sacred to them)? If not, then nor can Jews claim Palestinian land. Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fiction; so too is the State of Israel a fiction. Nefarious Zionist influence in Britain? Look at the various 'Friends of Israel' in your 'British' Parliament! You'd think it was the Knesset-in-Exile! What right has a Brish MP to be a friend of this country or that. He/she is elected solely to represent British electors; and the electors are NOT Israelis (unless of course they are Zionists with their usual subterfuge of 'dual nationality'). Zionists are also responsible for stirring up inter-community conflict. The Zionist lobby was the prime mover behind the Iraq war, with its grotesque $500 billion expenditure. Modern day anti-semitism (which, shockingly, is just below the surface in the vast majority of the British public) arises solely as a reaction to strident, in-your-face Zionism.
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2008-02-07 16:13:19
Anjum:
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KBPLayer
Never again will the Zio-Con Lobby in the US (and the UK) be listened to again. Tens of thousands of lives have been lost, and hundreds of billions of Dollars have vanished into smoke, and shrapnel, and bits of human bodies. You must recognise that Zionism is a monster that must be quashed. Then all people -- Jews,Christians,Muslims etc can begin a new life and the world can work towards peace. It is time to stop the Zionists haveing a laugh at our expense!
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2008-02-07 16:46:07
Paul M:
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Reality and Anjum - as mentioned above, it is now established that Israel advised the US against attacking Iraq and expressed no opinion on Afghanistan.
Most US Jews are Zionists but voted against Bush at both elections. Most US Muslims voted for him at the first election. Your paranoid 'The Zionists control the world' mentality is a great threat to the mental health and progress of the Ummah.
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2008-02-07 18:43:27
RSD:
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The desire and ambition to establish a state is a central element of the Jewish faith. The Books of Moses expound nothing more than the creation of that state together with the fundamentals of a constitution. It is no coincidence that at Passover that the Jews have repeated "Next Year In Jerusalem" as an abiding wish for the last two thousand years. But that is not what legitimises Israel. What legitimises this Jewish state is the treatment of Jews by Muslims and Christians for hundreds of years. Certainly Christians behaved abominably far in excess of the Muslims - but Muslims too denied Jews basic human rights and applied a bloody form of apartheid to them.
Israel will become irrelevant when Christians and Muslims can demonstrate that they can live as equals with Jews for an extended period of time, and not revert violence and oppression.
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2008-02-07 19:13:23
Davie:
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Any sane human being will see that Zionism is fictitous. Can the Red Indians claim back USA? And can the Aborigines demand that Australia should be returned to wilderness (which is sacred to them)? If not, then nor can Jews claim Palestinian land. If Native Americans were given a tiny part of America back, would the world begrudge them that? If Australian Aborigines were given a tiny part of Australia, would the world begrudge them that? I don't think so. So when the Jews are given a mere 4% of Bilad al Sham, with the rest being reserved exclusively for Arabs, why does everyone begrudge them that? Because of the "Palestinians"? Well even ignoring the fact that the Arabs have only recently taken to the Western Term for the biblical Jewish Holy Lands, what is it that Israel is the only part of "Palestine" that is expected to surrender land for a Palestinian State? Why not build "Palestine" out of "Palestinian" land given to the Hashemites Arabs on the EAST Bank of the Jordan? Why is it always "from the River to the Sea", when historical Palestine stretched as far as Amman in Jordan and up into Syria & Lebanon? When over 75% of British Mandate Palestine is on the OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER? Why is so much attention given to Israel/Palestine when much worse abuses of Human Rights are taking place across the Arab & Muslim world (e.g. the Russian treatment of Chechens, Darfur, the wholesale destruction of Palestinian refugee camps by the Lebanese army)? Nobody who screams at Israel gives a damn about anything else. Why? Because it's not about Palestine at all. It's not about the Palestians? It all just religious. It's Old Koran stuff. You can't bear the thought of Jews having won some land back from the Ummah (even if it is a tiny, bit of land, the size of Wales, with no oil!).
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2008-02-08 09:16:19
KB Player:
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Reality’s sister
Do you push semantics aside? You don’t care what words mean? But posting on a blog words are your only way of conveying your meaning. So I would still like to know what you mean, or think you mean by those “goyim” who are fighting back the "Zionists”. However your indifference to the meaning of words presumably explains how you can call Zionism “fictitious”. You may as well call communism or socialism or Scottish nationalism “fictitious”. These movements have existed and exist, for good or for ill. You’re right about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion being fictitious, or a mischievous fraud, though they are treated as historical fact by some eg Hamas. But how is the State of Israel “fictitious”? Fictitious states don’t normally have seats in the UN, a foreign policy and an entry in the Eurovision Song Contest. “Zionists are also responsible for stirring up inter-community conflict.” It’s fair to say that there is some inter community conflict or at least tension in Britain today – quite a lot of it caused by the 7/7 bombings, and various other jihadist attempts at random murder of British citizens. Are the “Zionists” responsible for those as well? “Modern day anti-semitism (which, shockingly, is just below the surface in the vast majority of the British public) arises solely as a reaction to strident, in-your-face Zionism.” Where do you hear about this latent anti-semitism in the vast majority of the British public? I can’t say I’ve ever noticed it in “the vast majority”. And what is this “strident, in your face Zionism”? Are there billboards and television advertisements saying “Support Zionism”. Or do you mean Israel’s foreign policy?
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2008-02-08 14:27:12
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Davie
Where is this new state you talk about? This Bilad al Sham, is it an internationally recognised country like America or Australia. Btw those two examples could not have been worse examples. Slaughter the natives steal their land and then after so many generations give them back a smidgen of earth as a token gesture? How can you compare that with what Israel has done to Palestine. Palestine is the one that has been ravaged plundered and the inhabitants slaughtered and imprisoned behind a great big concrete wall and when a few occupied houses are given back a great big noise is made in the media about returning land to the Palestinians. That is the only parallel you can draw from your ill thought out comparison if any. Israel is the one that does not give a damn about anyone else. Stop rewriting history and redefining geography with your biased, single tracked mind and get treatment for your superiority complex. Its bad for you.
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2008-02-19 09:46:29
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I couldn’t help but feel disgust and sadness after watching the C4 Dispatches programme, Heat or Eat: The Pensioners Dilemma aired Monday at 8pm. The programme discovered that the Government, despite its promises, is failing the elderly across Britain.
