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Friday, 01 February 2008

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Mujaahid: Quote

Graet lyrics and visuals, pity about the music. You'd reach a far wider audience with just the lyrics - powerful enough!
(1) 2008-02-02 00:18:24
Ibrahim Sidat (I Sidat): Quote

As heartbreaking and poingnant this is, my heart bleeds because the reality is that Palestine will never be free this land will always be occupied. Honestly what can the Palestininas do? they have no support and are up against people who are the world SUPER power with the most sophisticated and deadly weapons.
(2) 2008-02-03 02:07:52
Barbarossa: Quote

As heartbreaking and poingnant this is, my heart bleeds because the reality is that Palestine will never be free this land will always be occupied. Honestly what can the Palestininas do? they have no support and are up against people who are the world SUPER power with the most sophisticated and deadly weapons.
— Ibrahim Sidat (I Sidat)


They can do plenty ... Muslims can get organised and active. Greater super powers then this have been defeated by people who have faith in God.

Only those who do not truly believe - defeat themselves and make excuses about why they cannot do something.
(3) 2008-02-03 15:08:57
thehook: Quote

I never seen a Muslim poet reach a "far wider auddience." So that is out of the question and rebuffs what you just said. These guys work reaches far and wide than any poet we see in our communities.

Name one, just one, national spoken word avenue, platform, arena, venue for SPOKEN WORD in England run by Muslims? NONE.

And name one, who is in the mainstream of spoken word, from Muslims that reach far and wide audience, all over the world. None is the answer.

Great lyrics, powerful images and spot on
(4) 2008-02-03 17:35:40
Paul M: Quote

'Honestly, what can the Palestinians do?'

They can either accept the state of Israel, stop endlessly bombing it and reach a peace deal.

Or they can refuse to accept it, declare they wish to expel or impose dhimmitude on its Jewish majority and elect a party with an openly anti-semitic platform and then accept the consequences of their declaration of war.

I have no particular problem with their doing the latter. Whilst I believe that the Jews have a legitimate claim to Israel, I can completely understand why many, probably most, Palestinians do not and want to fight Israel to the death.

But currently they seem to think they can have a unilateral, one-way war on Israel and get plentiful electricity, medical and food supplies in return. In fact, to a very large extent this is what they have achieved. But as soon as the Israelis show a little irritation and, say, reduce the electricity supply, out comes the wailing and the claims of genocide.

Why don't the Palestinians, if they are intent seriously on destroying Israel, start by showing they can create their own electricity and manage for five minutes without Israeli assitance?
(5) 2008-02-03 17:55:04
boycott israel: Quote

many one who believe's in god! knows that god will help them... what is israel!!! god made the world...so what is israel to god! ha

its the same god who helpd all the prophet's at war times and he's the same god to day and 4ever...

palestinians will be free avery soon...ameen ameen ameen

some of you people are evil...
your lucky this is not happin to you! ha
what would of you done????????????????????

(6) 2008-02-03 23:36:59
david: Quote

I have a question to ask and that is why after 60 years are the Palestinians still living in refugee camps? I mean after the 2nd World War all the millions of displaced europeans soon settled down and became full citizens of the countries they sought refugee status in. Why hasn't this happened for the palestinians? Why haven't the arab states that house these squalid refugee camps given the people full citizenship? Is it because they want to use the palestinians as a weapon to bash izrael, to keep a mass of angry and uneducated palestinians to fight the izraelis? Do Tell me? (I am not jewish by the way, but am atheist white brit)
(7) 2008-02-04 08:00:17
I Sidat: Quote

'Honestly, what can the Palestinians do?'

They can either accept the state of Israel, stop endlessly bombing it and reach a peace deal.

Or they can refuse to accept it, declare they wish to expel or impose dhimmitude on its Jewish majority and elect a party with an openly anti-semitic platform and then accept the consequences of their declaration of war.

I have no particular problem with their doing the latter. Whilst I believe that the Jews have a legitimate claim to Israel, I can completely understand why many, probably most, Palestinians do not and want to fight Israel to the death.

But currently they seem to think they can have a unilateral, one-way war on Israel and get plentiful electricity, medical and food supplies in return. In fact, to a very large extent this is what they have achieved. But as soon as the Israelis show a little irritation and, say, reduce the electricity supply, out comes the wailing and the claims of genocide.

Why don't the Palestinians, if they are intent seriously on destroying Israel, start by showing they can create their own electricity and manage for five minutes without Israeli assitance?
— Paul M


Firstly Palestine and it's people have done everything they can, secondly the state of Israel has already been established there's no such notion amongst Palestininans and lastly whta would ISrael do without the aid of America, it's a fact according to Human Rights group and the UN Israel would disintegrate without American assistance.

Please use a bit of common sense!!!!!!!!!!!
(8) 2008-02-04 13:12:29
I Sidat: Quote

I have a question to ask and that is why after 60 years are the Palestinians still living in refugee camps? I mean after the 2nd World War all the millions of displaced europeans soon settled down and became full citizens of the countries they sought refugee status in. Why hasn't this happened for the palestinians? Why haven't the arab states that house these squalid refugee camps given the people full citizenship? Is it because they want to use the palestinians as a weapon to bash izrael, to keep a mass of angry and uneducated palestinians to fight the izraelis? Do Tell me? (I am not jewish by the way, but am atheist white brit)
— david


The israelis settlled in Arab land, Palestine now MODERN day ISRAEL was the ancestoral homeland of the palestininans, these people are waiting for the UN to re-establish that land something promised by Britain and the UN.
(9) 2008-02-04 13:14:53
I Sidat: Quote

As heartbreaking and poingnant this is, my heart bleeds because the reality is that Palestine will never be free this land will always be occupied. Honestly what can the Palestininas do? they have no support and are up against people who are the world SUPER power with the most sophisticated and deadly weapons.
— Barbarossa


They can do plenty ... Muslims can get organised and active. Greater super powers then this have been defeated by people who have faith in God.

Only those who do not truly believe - defeat themselves and make excuses about why they cannot do something.
— Ibrahim Sidat (I Sidat)


Plenty as in how exactly? everytime Palestine do something they get labelled as terrorists, remember the infamous march in Jenin durin the 90s? Yesss Palestininas were shot without any warning, do you have a reasonable idea that they can use?
(10) 2008-02-04 13:17:33
David: Quote

To I Sadat. Sorry but that's not an answer, you have totally ignored my question and my comments re the equivalent European situation and refugees at the end of the 2nd World war. I will ask again. Why haven't the surrounding arab countries that house the palestinians in refugee camps given these refugees full citizenship as they are required to do under international law???

And if my reading of history serves me correctly (I could be wrong on this) but the jews and palestinians were each given an equal part of the land currently under dispute - it was only because the surrounding arab countries immediately launched a military attack upon the tiny Izraeli state that this whole situation ever happened!

And, I want you to answer this directly, is it not true that the surrounding arab countries like Egypt also seized some of this palestinian state as well and still hold it? Indeed, the irony is that the recent breakthrough of the Gaza wall by Palestinians into "Egypt" was in fact a breakout into this parcel of Palestinian land seized by the Egyptians back in 1948 !!!!

But, if what you say is true then that is insane, and is similar to the people living in Morrocco still holding onto the keys their keys for the houses they were expelled from in Spain by the Catholic monarchs back in 1492 when Granada fell.

Insane cos it just ain't going to happen, no more than the people living in Morrocco are going to get their houses in Spain back.
(11) 2008-02-04 16:17:17
I Sidat: Quote

To David

Your too illiterate to understand the situation or completely over clouding the judgement with false reports on internet and media, firstly Egypt has no Palestinian Land it was taken off them in the four day war with Israel, Secondly yes Palestine was split for a two state solution the Israeli state has been established which was Palestinan LAND the european Jewish people settled there whilst imperalist europe were carrying out war crimes, Palestine is no longer on the map if you use your brains you will realise that.

What Citizenship are you talking about you want these people to move to other countries? thier country was taken off them, imagine someone did that to you? America wouldn't give you a citizenship or the 1.5 million people who have been kicked out of thier homes.

And lastly Morrocco and Spain issue doesn't even tou7ch the surface there's no discrepency there, Palestine issue is unique in format and as Human Rights group say it's the biggest form of inhumanity since the second world war.

If people like you for once stop reading the media lies and go and find out what Academics are saying you will realise that it's not Palestinians that are the problem it's America and the Zionist Israeli state who ahve been labelled the only country in the world to break every international agreement and have not been bought to Justice.
(12) 2008-02-05 11:50:03
Paul M: Quote

I Sadat - your calling someone illiterate is entertaining. I think your own grammer is ever so slightly deficient. David's English is very good by contrast even if you don't like his views.

I trust you are aware that more Jews fled Arab countries than Arabs fled Israel and that Israel has more Arabs and Jews of Middle Eastern origin than it has Israeli Jews.

Whereas there have never been more Mulims living in Palestine (Israel + Gaza + West Bank) in history, the Jewish communities of every Arab country have dwindled to 1% or less of their 1948 level through persecution, dhimmitude and explusion.

Since the total number of people killed in Israel and Palestine in the last sixty years is much less than 1% of the number of Muslims killed by each other I would be interested to know which 'Human Rights group' suggests that it is the biggest forum for inhumanity since the second world war.
(13) 2008-02-05 17:47:36
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