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How many times do we complain about the media and its bias against Muslims? Only this past week have we seen every excuse imaginable put forward by influential pro-Israeli members in the media who have sought to defend the continuing slaughter of the Palestinian people. The difference now is one media reporter has stepped up by exposing the truth of the escalating brutality committed by the Israeli military. Jon Snow has dared to criticize Israel! He has stood firmly against pro-Israeli propaganda and has delivered a superb, objective and impartial interview. MPACUK believe it is perhaps one of the most sensational interviews of all time on channel4 and we must applaud Snow and channel 4 for this.
ACT NOW!!It is crucial that Jon Snow is not silenced! We must support the media presenter as a matter of urgency by sending comments of support to news@channel4.com. All that is needed is a short paragraph remembering to point out the following:
Alternatively call Channel 4 television on 020 7306 8333 and make your comments. Comments made by Jon Snow in the interview:
Be mindful these campaigns are a part of the media jihad. The Quran says
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UPDATE:We would like to welcome readers of hotair.com, from whom we have had over 300 visitors. Typically the anti-palestinian website claims that this is another "disgraceful episode to come out of the Arabist British media". No doubt they have already blasted Channel 4, do please email your views to Channel 4 telling them what you think of the interview. Don't let us put words in your mouth, watch it for yourself here
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Readers have left 229 comments.
A Fellow British Muslim Citizen:
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Dear Mr Snow,
I hope this email reaches you and your team in the best of health. I would like to take my time out to say a big thank you for your insightful questioning of the State of Israel's actions against the Palestinian people. There are not many people like yourself in the Media nowadays, and I know for a fact that those who condone such terrorist actions will be on your case. But, I ask you to stand firm and against injustice, against falsehood. I know for a fact that the Muslim community is asleep and wouldn't even know about what you did, but on their behalf and on the behalf of those little Palestinian kids who are dying in the Hospitals because of the lack of water and electricity they will be appreciated for making their voice heard. My only wish is that our government does something to stop these crimes against humanity and more courageous people like yourself stand up and speak out against the people who have no voice, who are the most oppresses people since the Nazi era. Thank you again Mr Snow and I wish you all the best. Warm Regards, A Fellow British Muslim Citizen
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2006-07-03 00:37:12
Professor Geoffrey Alderman:
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The Palestinian Arabs elected a government dedicated to the eradication of the Jewish state. The Palestinian electorate must now accept the consequences of that decision. Since the Israeli pull-out from Gaza around 1,000 rockets have landed on Israeli soil. The Israelis were fully entitled to retaliate, and the destruction of the power station will hopefully slow down the production of rockets. In this sense it may be compared with the famous 'Dambusters' attack by the Royal Air Force in 1943 - the destruction of the Ruhr dams, causing over 1,000 civilian casualties and knocking out several power stations.
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2006-07-03 08:39:37
FractionMan:
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Fantastic Interview, I have just emailed both parties. Forgot to copy my message for other to use, but it was just a simply message saying what a fantastic interview it was.
About time a Journalist asked some serious questions from an Israeli representative.
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2006-07-03 09:11:21
Solaiman:
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@ Professor Alderman
For a professor that argument was the simply the abominable strawman! How can Israel say that this is revenge for the 1000 (toy) rockets that were fired over into Israel since the withdrawal, as Israel has also been shelling back on a dialy basis!
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2006-07-03 09:19:38
FAIR PLAY:
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Congrats to Jon Snow to have courage to question Israeli Ambassador but he did not go far. Here Cook who is the resident of Nazareth wrote about bias by the BBC
"We can ignore the weeks of shelling by the Israeli army of Gaza, the firing of hundreds of missiles into the crowded Strip that have destroyed Palestinian lives and property, while spreading terror among the civilian population and deepening the psychological trauma suffered by a generation of children. We can ignore the deaths of more than 30 civilians, and dozens of horrific injuries, in the past few weeks at the hands of the Israeli military, including three children hit in a botched air strike last week, and a heavily pregnant woman and her doctor brother killed a day later as a missile slammed into the room where they were eating dinner. We can ignore the blockade of Gaza's "borders" by the Israeli army for months on end, which has prevented Palestinians in the Strip from trading goods at crossing points with Israel and from receiving vital supplies of food and medicines. As a captive population besieged by Israeli soldiers, Gazans are facing a humanitarian catastrophe sanctioned by Israeli government policy and implemented by the Israeli army. We can ignore Israel's bullying of the international community to connive in the starving of the Hamas-led government of funds and diplomatic room for manoeuvre, thereby preventing the elected Palestinian leadership from running Gaza. So desperate is the situation there that Hamas officials are being forced to smuggle in millions of dollars of cash stuffed in suitcases to pay salaries. And finally we can ignore the violation of Palestinian territory by Israeli commandos who infiltrated Gaza a day before the Palestinian attack to kidnap two Palestinians Israel claims are terrorists. They have been "disappeared", doubtless to be be held in administrative detention, where they can denied access to lawyers, the courts and, of course, justice." This is what to be told.
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2006-07-03 09:42:27
S Khan:
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Dear Mr Snow,
I felt I had to write in having watched your interview with the Israeli Ambassador to London yesterday. The interview was both a powerful and arresting piece of journalism and addressed many issues that have been circumvented by clever media dynamics and diplomatic manipulation particularly in recent times. In our current climate of sensitivities, one must be careful to examine chains of events in a balanced and non-biased light. Your probing questions and open-mindedness are testimony to this. I would also like to add as a side note, I enjoy watching your news pieces, I find them to be of exceptional quality. Many thanks & kind regards,
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2006-07-03 09:44:25
iftikhar malik:
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Dear Professor Alderman,
If the Israelis can elect Likuds and one Ultra Right anti-Palestinian government after the other and that is not made into a problem why Hamas getting elected turns so disputatious? The problem is simply the stark unevenness in the world politics and the Palestinains are paying the price for what the Europeans heniously did to hapless Jews over centuries and until recently. Sadly and ironically, the former victims, in many cases, have become today's perpetrators which is seriously compromising the transcendant moral values of Judaism nurtured over 5,000 years. Other than Palestinians refusing to become American Indians on their own soil, it is a serious moral question that our Jewish brothers and sisters--much like Gush Shalom--should be asking their Zionists colleagues. Neither Al-Fatah nor Hamas, nor even Arabs or Muslims are acceptable as per traditional Israeli dictum, so where should we bring the ideal people from that the state of Israel should feel comfortable with? We are all mortals and let us make a new beginning. Israel is a part of the Middle East and should responsibly help towards a new, peaceful and forward looking Middle East. It should not continue to project itself as an extension of an expansive, arrogant and dismissive imperial North Atlantic legacy. We do not choose our neighbours; we live with them. I am sure there are many many well meaning people on all sides and we need to stand up for larger human welfare instead of mutual condemnation and annihilation. Regards, Iftikhar
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2006-07-03 09:55:53
James Wood:
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Are they really really just little toy rockets ??? Not capable of hurting anyone ?
Snow is an idiot to say that.
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2006-07-03 09:59:51
Dr David Barrett:
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These are not crimes against humanity
Israel has the right to self defense after they relinquished Gaza totally into Hamas hands who then permitted not less than 1000 rocket strikes in less than 5 months.[ really a pathetic comment by J.Snow here] They then attacked Israel proper and kidnapped a soldier . They knew they were playing with fire. All they had to do was to release him as was requested by most countries. But no - they want Israel in ; to create sympathy for them . It doesnt wash. They are getting what they deserve and I hope that the world will see one less terrorist organisation in the near future.
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2006-07-03 10:37:08
WW2 pensioner:
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The comparison of the dam busters show how little in touch the fifth column is intersted with facts as well as the example of the principe of retaliation. Ther unequal capability of the terror settlement callend israel vs home made rocketts shoew again how hate filled it really is. As a pensioner who has seen this & the West's policy taken over by a bunch of disloyal foriegners who say it is fine to commit genocide & yet use OUR passports to take part in this mass murder. Almost 10,000 shells have fallen on actual civilian areas & since this rogue regime 'israel' has plans to do this to use via a false flag nuclear strike as seen in 1973 with gold meyer. 'israel' has NO civilian strutures s ins everything has a military aspect so the Palestinians have a Human Rght to retaliate against this Anti Semitic terror settlement. The world is with the Palestinians, not 'israel'.
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2006-07-03 11:26:15
rosemarz bdeir:
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I agree that the Arab Nations are asleep, let hope that stories like this will help wake them up. We have to use the powerful weapon of internet to speak up. I applaude Mr. Snow. And I applaude Channel 4 for trying to keep the truth on the air. And being an honest friend of the 'Muddled East'.
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2006-07-03 11:31:41
Bahrain:
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Where have Mr. Snow been all these years? Quich, we need to clone as many of him as possible.
Does anyone has a count on israeli casulaties hit by Palestinian rockets?
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2006-07-03 12:26:20
Bilal Patel:
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Looking at the zionists bombing Gaza is a bit like watching the Germans deal with a Jewish camp. The Jewish state is indeed a Nazi state.
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2006-07-03 13:12:36
mohan, malaysia:
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Toy rockets? Who're trying to kid? Box cutters are harmless really, but look at the consequences if it finds its way into the hands of islamofascists.
Its the intent stupid (to paraphrase Bill Clinton). Try to make your case in a court of law (a real one of course, not your "hamss, shoot you in the street" one). Even if its a toothpick, its the intent. Stupid.
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2006-07-03 13:18:20
Mary Strasdas:
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Dear Mr. Snow,
I respect you very much for this interview. I wish there would be just one journalist in Germany having the courage, too. Must be our horrible history that also the politicians ignore how the Palestinian people have to suffer by the Israeli occupation force since decades! Wish you all the best, Mary Strasdas
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2006-07-03 13:20:03
fiz:
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Dear All,
Albert Einstein once said " The important thing is not to stop questioning" In this case, there are so many questions. As Muslims this above concept of questioning the whys and hows etc have been forgotten; EVEN THOUGH IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL TENANT OF OUR FAITH. We are hell-bent on our own destruction by continuous in-fighting. WAKE UP!!!!
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2006-07-03 13:39:52
John Handford:
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Professor Alderman, you say that the Palestinian resistance fired 1000 rockets into israel. You will find that your comments are actually untrue. All of the rockets that were fired were aimed into settlements illegal under international law and not recognised to be within israeli borders. Therefore the Palestinians are more than entitled to fight to retrieve land stolen from them by the occupation forces. Also what people have misunderstood from what John Snow had to say about the rockets bieng pathetic, is that they really are pathetic when compared to the massive destructive force the weapons that israel uses have. Obviously they will hurt somebody if they get caught in the blast, but injuries and fatalities are very rare in comparison to the tremendous explosive power unleashed in heavily populated areas in Gaza and the like by the israeli millitary. Atleast 2 or 3 Palestinian civillians loose their lives on a weekly basis due to bombardment.
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2006-07-03 13:44:31
Rebecca:
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for those on this page who have been biased with Israel against the Palestinian hamas-led government...i think you should seriously consider what makes you support the state of Israel-when the actions you condemn Hamas of are the very actions( if not more so)you condone Israel for,though it has been delivering terror to the palestinian people for 60 years now.Now THAT is seriously dangerous..you should be more cautious,mindful,logical,especially when you wish to convey a message to people publicly..such as on this page!!Be honest with yourselves!
Best Regards to Jon Snow and the Channel 4 News crew.We need longer versions of such bold interviews,so people can get a clearer idea of the reality of this conflict!
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2006-07-03 14:43:29
Lamia:
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Prof. Alderman, Dr david Barret heres some questions for u - u both seem like intelligent people so im not going to provide u with the answers!
1. 1000 rockets have been fired into the illegal settlements, killing and injuring how many? and how many palestinian civillians have been killed by shellings, bombings in gaza in the last 5 months? (i think u'll find tht is wht jon snow meant by the rockets being pathetic!) 2. u talk about "entitlement" to defend oneself, so what does the geneva convention say about a nations right to defend itself against OCCUPYING forces? 3. u also claim the Palestinians as having selected a govt "dedicated to the eradication of the Jewish state" Now what was it tht Dov Weisglass senior advisor to Ariel sharon, said exactly in an interview with Haaretz daily last August during the disengagement? did it go something like this?... "the significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process…. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda" SO by re electing the same khadima party are the israeli citizens therefore not guilty of wanting the eradcation of any hope for the palestinian state? 4. Did the IDF and Shin Bet not just KIDNAP 2 civillians from gaza the day before the soldier Shalit was CAPTURED? (please pay attention to the words in bold!)so when israel kidnaps CIVILLIANS on a daily basis they are a state and when a SOLDIER is captured the palestinians involved are part of a terrorist organisation? 4. Is israel not the "only democracy in the middle east" the pilar of morality... etc etc? Can such a state then be seen to be emulating such vengeful acts and using the Dambusters attack of 1943 as justification for its acts?! I can think of many such questions which im sure you would enjoy answering but for now i think these should suffice Jon Snow has brought some of these questions to the public via the mainstream media- lets not stop questioning now
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2006-07-03 17:00:50
Khadija:
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Fab work by MPAC yet again. Noy a single mosque/isoc/org has raised this alert - which doesn't really surprise me anymore sadly...
Three cheers for Snow...
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2006-07-03 17:02:04
mushtaq:
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Fantastic interview, if only it went on longer...John Snow was tearing him to shreds.. well done channel 4!!
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2006-07-03 17:38:50
leena kamal:
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i'd like to thank channel four for supporting the Palestinan people at the time where all the media are blinded because of fear from the zionest lobby and where it is very rare to find sombody knowing what actually happens on the ground and declares it honestly.
many many thanks.
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2006-07-03 17:51:06
Dr David Barrett:
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To Mustaq
No , he did not Snow was rude, aggressive and impatient . He knows that the Ambassador is not a native English speaker. Snow indeed monopolised the majority of air time . Remember with all that air power only one person , a terrorist ,was killed. NO civilian casualties and think on-- Israel knew when their enemy was visiting the damaged property - could have taken them out then . Release the soldier and the whole show is over within the hour. Reminds me of Pharoah , his advisors , the plagues and a streak of stubborness!
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2006-07-03 17:55:57
paul:
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Jon snow's a socialist scumbag. He panders to every ethnic group. I'd like to seem him be as tough with a member of Hamas.
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2006-07-03 18:01:40
PZ:
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John Handford-The southern Israeli towns of Sderot and Ashkelon are settlements not within recognized Israel?
Errr, please pull out a map, sir. They very clearly are and have been for almost 60 years. And they have been the victims of unceasing rocket attacks both before and after the Divine withdrawal from the Gaza strip. We can go on for hours and hours about shelling, counter-reprisals, kidnappings, etc., but it's a basic fact that those towns are in Israel. It astounds and saddens me that this lack of basic facts is so obviously missing from this discussion...
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2006-07-03 18:04:07
Umm Khalid:
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Sir
Many thanks indeed for having the courage to ask the questions others in the media seem afraid to ask from fear of being labelled "anit-semetic" which is not the same as being anti-oppressive state regime. Please please please do not discontinue this fantastic journalism when it can be used to address other world issues in the same way. Warm regards Harpreet Bal Nottingham
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2006-07-03 18:58:36
ammaad:
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I just caused about 1,000 people to have awareness of this... hopefully will have about 500 emails sent to ch4 minimum. Thats just from me being the seed. :) May allah grant us greater numbers.
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2006-07-03 20:34:35
Mullah Hafeezud Din:
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Well done, Mr Snow!
Let it NOT stop here, but, we want a couple of more likewise interviews in the very near future! It seems as if Professor Alderman is confused; it's the other way round, the zionists want to eradicate the entire Muslim Ummah!
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2006-07-03 20:39:53
J H:
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I wish to express my deepest gratitude to Jon Snow for his superb interview with the deputy Israeli ambassador to London. It was most definitely an example of media presentation at its best. The questions asked I felt to be extremely pertinent and ultimately necessary in producing a balanced viewpoint regarding the events currently taking place in the occupied territories. Furthermore the account of the situation in Gaza was very heart moving as it both analysed the political events taking place but also the effect of the Israeli militaries actions on the common Palestinian; a viewpoint which can often be missed in many other news programmes looking at this emotive subject.
Once again i commend channel4 and Jon Snow for a remarkable interview which expressed the feelings which many in Britain hold about the injustice of Israeli policies in Gaza and even if sufficient answers were not given, to not ask such questions would be a blot on western values of expression and protection of minority groups and a signal that Israel has a freehand to continue its policy of collective punishment which many feel is tantamount to genocide. .
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2006-07-03 21:56:25
Phanarath:
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Does anyone reading here, know if it could be possible to get things like medicine and food into Gaza via Egypt or maybe by the sea ?
Is the only way trough Israel ?
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2006-07-03 23:34:47
ammaad:
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Brothers and sisters.... Email every muslim on ur email contacts to inform them about this. Make them send an email to C4 AND make them chain email it on. Also get feedback to ensure 1 they sent an email, 2 make sure they sent it to everyone on their contacts, 3 ensure they get people to do the same.... keep the chain going.
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2006-07-03 23:44:45
Harald Haugan:
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to compare the english to thugs refusing children the right to sleep, their right to clean drinking water, or indeed access to medical care and dragging in the destruction of the Ruhr dams is to me wholly distasteful and a clear example of how if you dare to criticise Israel you are an anti-semite.
they are incomparable... Palestinians are not all freedom-fighters, nor - do i hope - are all israeli - state-sponsored terrorists... we are all one. what - on earth - made you think otherwise?
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2006-07-04 00:06:39
ammaad:
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It would be intresting to see what the American Intercontinental University in London thinks of Prof G. Aldermans writing/opinions. Anyone care to ask the university if such a clearly racist remark is a policy of the University? Where is that Asghar Bukhari? I am sure he would ask :)
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2006-07-04 00:59:34
Amir:
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This is sickening! We have all know Israel is a terror is a terror state driven by Zionists! Time the internation government and UN woke up and took heavy action against them!
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2006-07-04 06:47:12
AK:
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Salaamz,
Congratulations to John Snow to be able to put those questions through. To the idiot who was complaining about english not being the first language of the ambassador, then why the hell did he come to England to represent Israel? He shouldn't have been eligable for such a country if his english was so poor.Crap excuses like that is so irritating. Along with the other crap excuse of avoiding "bloodshed" by not sending in the troops and destroying the last remaining power station to be more "humane". It's the same thing, only that the bloodbath would have looked too bad because too many would die within too short a time span. With the destruction of the power station it's the same too many people being killed, but over a longer frame of time, and with the media influence and the short span of memory of the general public, it is an even more cruel and obscene way of killing. The Palestinians are worse off than the Jews in Germany. 6 million died, over a short time frame, but the palestinians have been systematically slaughtered over the last 60years. and another 60 years from the way things are going. Atleast the jews had an instantaneous death, not this long drawn out death the Palestinians are facing. Atleast mass graves were found of the Jews to tell and remind of the horrors of humankinds' worst, where as there are no remains of the Palestinians killed because of the continuous bombing of the Palestinians by the IDF. Atleast the Jews had world sympathy, unlike the Palestinians who are now considered whole-heartedly a terrorist nation, when none of the 9/11 or 7/7 bombers were Palestinians.
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2006-07-04 10:36:09
saranur:
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the first ,i wanna ask,, WHERE IS THE HUMANTY RIGHTS? ARE THEY JUST FOR EUROPEAN OR WHITE AMER0CAN OR CHIRISTIAN OR JEW?? THE WHITE PEOPLE REVOLT AT KILLING EVEN A LITTLE DOG ,A FISH ..BUT WHY DONT THEY SEE MANY PEOPLE KILLED BY WHITE MEN IN IRAQ ,AFGANISTAN,PALESTIAN AND EVEN LITTLE INNOCENT CHILDREN ???? IS IT HUMANTY? THEN I HAVEN'T ANY COMMENT ,,THERE IS A WRONG IN THIS WORLD ..
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2006-07-04 12:36:04
Dr David Barrett:
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To AK
You said "The Palestinians are worse off than the Jews in Germany. 6 million died, over a short time frame, but the palestinians have been systematically slaughtered over the last 60years." Really!! Since 1920 approx 7700 'terrorists' and 'others' have died at the hands of your Zionists incl 5100+ since Sept 2000 [ intifadas] These are Pally figures! How you can compare the two I do not know - must have a twisted mathematical mind.Get your facts right! And yes I agree with you that it would be better if any ambassador spoke fluently the language of his posting but not everyone is a Bibi Netanyahu. Also he should have walked out when the interviewer minimalised rocket attacks. Not even worth talking to such a person.
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2006-07-04 14:03:10
sally jones:
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simple question to ask pro zionists / pro israeli :
'is the deliberate targetting of civilians terrorism?'
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2006-07-04 15:06:20
Aasia Fredericks:
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Good day to all in the news room
I would like to applaud Channel 4 for literally going where no journalist has gone before. Your article was to the point concise, and what that 4 minute interview has done for us as a muslim community is unbelievable. And to applaud Mr Snow, for bringing to the table the other sides concerns and showing just how unjust the media is towards Islam. Once again thank you very very much!!! A very happy citizen
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2006-07-04 15:20:41
Geoffrey Alderman:
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ammaad:
You wrote: "It would be intresting to see what the American Intercontinental University in London thinks of Prof G. Aldermans writing/opinions. Anyone care to ask the university if such a clearly racist remark is a policy of the University? Where is that Asghar Bukhari? I am sure he would ask" Can you please explain why you believe that my remarks are "racist?" Professor Geoffrey Alderman
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2006-07-04 15:23:15
Alan:
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I do not understand why Israelis (i.e governments)are still occupying Palestine. Why can't Israelis give the Palestianins part of their land back insted of dividing it into two parts, creating havoc amongst the poor Palestinains and anihilating them slowly. Have the Israelis not taken enough!SOLUTION.STOP KILLING THE PALESTINIANS AND MAY BE THEY'LL CONSIDER ISRAELIS AS HUMANS.
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2006-07-04 16:08:41
Mahdi:
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Dear Mr Snow and Ch4
thanks... I am here in UK since a month, i can say none of the medias here did mention anything about the daily israeli crimes in Palestine..with more than 50 civilians were killed during may be 2 weeks !!!! seeing such an interview on ch4 is encourging..and extra-ordinary. many thanks..with all support
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2006-07-04 19:21:05
Rahim, California, USA:
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Mr. Snow,
Please continue the great work of asking the tough relevent questions which other media dare not touch. Hats off to Channel4 for bringing out the truth. I wish if we had half an anchor like Mr. Snow in the US media. Rahim, California, USA
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2006-07-05 07:23:28
Geoffrey Alderman:
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Lamia
The Hamas government (if one can call it that) is, explicitly, dedicated to the complete eradication of the Jewish state. Israel has long ago accepted the legitimacy of one Palestinian state (Jordan, which was part of Mandate Palestine) and is prepared to accept the legitimacy of a second ("Palestine"). This is the official policy of the elected government of Israel. My reference to the famous Dambusters raid was to make the point that the destruction of power stations is a legitimate act of self-defence. Hopefully (as I said in my original contribution to this discussion), the destruction of the power station in Gaza will impede the production of rockets aimed at Israel. And incidentally, these rockets are far from being 'toys.'
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2006-07-05 07:42:52
Aasia:
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Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:
Mr Marc Davis HOw kind of you to 'highlight' these points in history to us. What I don't understand is how we all get branded together. Very classist of you. However you chose not to see when Muslims are outraged and not just about cartoons. We had peace marches and rallies with most of the inexcusable things that have happened in the name of Islam. Research Islam before you condemn it Put plainly, Islam wouldn't be the fastest growing religion if we were doing some thing wrong. Islam means peace. Get with the programme sir before you make completely ignorant statements about a nation you don't know. God Forbid, I am not threatening you, but open your eyes.........
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2006-07-05 07:57:12
Harald Haugan:
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Prof Alderman: with your reference to the dambusters again... Didn't Zvi Ravner say they bombed the powerstation to "stop the terrorists from being able to smuggle the captured soldier out"? (not a direct quote - but that was his "excuse")
Do you seriously suggest this is a sane man's logic? Does anyone believe this is the reason behind taking out the last non-israeli controlled powerstation? Sounds like so much WMD to me... I am not muslim, I am not christian, I am not jew. I have nothing against any of these "groups" of people, but i do think we should treat people in a fair manner - and in the case of war at the very least follow the Geneva convention. Surely, from a people like the jews - that have been prosecuted more than perhaps any other - this should come even more natural? Is it ok for the bullied to become the bully? Kind regards, Harald
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2006-07-05 08:16:12
Geoffrey Alderman:
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Harald
I have no difficulty in believing that the destruction of the power station in Gaza has made it more difficult for the terrorists holding the Israeli corporal to move him around [of course as a prisoner of war the Red Cross should already have been given access to him; have they?]. Yesterday a rocket launched from Gaza hit a school in Ashkelon. Some toy, eh? Geoffrey
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2006-07-05 10:15:37
Dafydd:
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God bless israel the ones who know how to treat muslims. Get them out of the country they are a bunch of trouble makers.
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2006-07-05 11:43:57
Harald Haugan:
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Prof Alderman - would you care to give us your brilliant insight into how turning the lights off will make it any more difficult for them to move the soldier around?
And I am sure they wouldn't mind giving the Red Cross access to him once Israel start following the Geneva Convention themselves... You must be a sick individual indeed to condone what the Israeli are doing to the Palestinian people. Only religious fanatics can condone what they are doing, and I fear those religious fanatics more than I do Muslim fanatics, as they have far more (American) firepower... Someone once said: you shouldn't accept so readily the injustice that doesn't affect yourself. If we had all lived by that the atrocities committed against the Jews during the second world war might have been avoided...and we would hopefully have seen a more compassionate way of dealing with Palestine. If so, I for one am convinced there wouldn't have been any recruits for the terrorists we see today. On either side. Ben Gurion himself admitted he would become a suicide bomber if he was born a Palestinian...
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2006-07-05 12:10:43
Harald Haugan:
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Dr Barrett,
That would be logical, if the people holding the Israeli soldier were the _only_ one with a torch/generator... But hey, if they keep shooting blindly at anything that stands out/makes a noise they will get them eventually right? Probably shooting the Israeli soldier in the process. But that's ok, because they can always blame the terrorists... Thank you also for your pedantic correction on my knowledge of history, I am sure you will agree it doesn’t change the fact that he said he would become a suicide-bomber if treated the same way… Doesn’t that tell you anything? And what kind of “doctor” condones the treatment of the Palestinians? Oh yes, I forgot… You have a shining example in Dr Josef Mengele – I am sure you and him would have gotten along just fine...
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2006-07-05 13:48:01
Dr David Barrett:
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To Harald Haugan
So far I have been contributing in a polite manner but here I make an exception on behalf of all Jews whereever they may be: To liken me to Dr Mengele shows you up to being an antisemitic s******g incapable of understanding anything in your tiny mind. Again I repeat that Ben Gurion never said what you claimed he said because there were no suicide bombers in his day. For your info our hospitals are staffed by excellent arab doctors and full of arab patients receiving excellent care.I also have arab citizens whom I am proud to call BROTHER.
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2006-07-05 16:09:17
Dr David Barrett:
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Just to provide a fact ---
it was Israeli ex-PM Ehud Barak who said that if he was born Palestinian he might have joined a terrorist organization. He did not say he would become a body-bomber!
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2006-07-05 18:01:01
Khurshid Iqbal:
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Thanks channel4 and Mr. Jon Snow for the bold step of criticising the terrorist policies of the Isreali government against innocent Palestinians. This is indeed a rare change in the policy of the western media, which is highly partisan against the Muslims.
There is much hue and cry in the west and "USrael" over the election of Hamas in Palestine. Hamas is a legitimately elected government exactly in the same way as it is and should be done in any democracy. But there is not even a symbolic opposition when Isrealis elect one hardliner party after the other. Double Standards: is the true face of the so called liberal west. If the western media is really free and impartial, it must come out of the cocoon of the Jewish lobby and show to the world the true facts. While the 'Clash of Civilisation' is at its peak, it is only hoped that the western media will learn a lesson and the "Superb inerview" may prove the tip an iceberg. Khurshid Iqbal
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2006-07-05 18:53:26
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Sir,
This is a very couragoues gesture of channel 4 and Mr. Jon Snow to support Palestinians by being nearly for the first time fair and not biasd against them, at a time when all medias are justifying the crimes committed by Israelis. To tell the truth, we are happy because we reached desperation to being the nation and the religion which should be justified. Therefore, I'm so thankful and craving for more steps supporting the people sufferring in Palestine by the powerful weapon of media..
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2006-07-05 19:20:42
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"it was Israeli ex-PM Ehud Barak who said that if he was born Palestinian he might have joined a terrorist organization.
He did not say he would become a body-bomber" I am sorry if my source was wrong on the name, and - at the risk of sounding pedantic: the difference between a terrorist and a "body-bomber" is? Oh yes, blowing up a school - at night-time - when nobody is there... Horrible people... Blowing up a family having a picnic on the beach is fine though - as long as you can get a _military_ enquiry saying - oh - the _military_ was not to blame... "To liken me to Dr Mengele shows you up to being an antisemitic s******g incapable of understanding anything in your tiny mind." The anti-semitic card... I was wondering when you would bring that up... No, i am not anti-semitic. If I won the lottery (or someone would be kind enough to fund it) the first thing I would do would be to set up a scheme whereby the "neo-nazi's" of my hometown in Norway (and anywhere else) would be sent in "white buses" (ask me if you want to know more, basically Red Cross buses sent from Norway to Germany after WW2 - I guess they felt guilty about condemning so many Jews to a dire destiny in Germany...) to the holocaust-memorials in Germany. What happened during World War II was very, very, _very_ wrong...but the rest of the world learned something from this... I have been beaten up by the neo-nazis in my hometown for taking a stand. I would do it again. (Fair enough, I had to ask for it... The Jews got it, and the Palestinians get it very much without having to ask...) I do not care what "colour", religion or belief you have. We are all one... How can you not see the similarity - in principle - to the way the Nazi's treated the Jews during the second world war, and the way the Palestinians are treated by Israel today? Yes, the Nazi's did it on a grander scale in a very short period of time, but there is the same thing happening in Palestine today, albeit on a much longer timescale. No less in the number of people involved though... I do not care about "race" or religion (I don't believe in "races" - or even "groups" of people, we are all _one people_...) That's the problem you have with me, because you can not use anti-semitism against me... Do I have a "thing" about how Israel is treating Palestinians? Yes I do. Same way I would have felt it if America had been pouring money and military hardware into Palestine to "control" the Israeli... I care not what religion you are, because I have no need for one. I would like to apologise for comparing you to Mengele...I don't believe the comparison was wrong, but I understand you find it offensive. I was hoping you would understand how you would be viewed by someone who looked at it from an "outside" point of view. As you are treating people with the same point of view... They are "sub-human" and "all the same"... Your statements about torches and generators told me you think of _all_ Palestinians as terrorists...or that the whole area as populated by a few Palestinians in terrorist groups, no kids, no women, no elderly people... The latter of those who all need a(t least one) powerstation... With kind regards, Harald Haugan
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2006-07-05 23:33:22
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it was awonderful interview by john snow. he is really a brave man we wish him all the best and hope that he will use his powerfull position for all the oppressed people in the world. Chanel 4 is also worth to be praised for it. it may take a lead from BBC through promoting such just issues.
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2006-07-06 02:18:50
John:
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Mr. Snow,
God bless you and protect you. Please continue the great work and be a man. John
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2006-07-06 06:28:09
Mary Zeitler:
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I commend Jon Snow for asking the questions that many reporters want to ask but are afraid to do so.
thank you very much for finally standing up on behalf of the Palestinian people and not letting fear stand in the way of sharing the truth with the world. Please keep it up and I pray that no harm is done to you because of the truth you shared. Mary
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2006-07-06 06:42:06
Umar Teladia:
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i would like to thank chanel 4 and thank jon snow evan more for what he has done by bringing the real truth about the attack on gaza to our eyes, the whole world has turned a blind eye to these facts and when somebody does the right thing rather then support him we try to silence him. This inhumane act on behalf of the whole world is a shame and shows how immoral we have become all help should be given to jon snow and he should be given more coverage.
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2006-07-06 08:41:13
George Salloum:
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God bless you Mr. John Snow for your honesty and courage and thank you channel 4 for your imparitial stand.
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2006-07-06 11:09:58
Fatih..:
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It was good to see a fair presenter with balanced questions on TV. There was no sensible answer from Ambassador side. He put himself a funny situation.
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2006-07-06 12:53:14
Morley Evans:
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Three cheers for you, Mr. Snow! It is high time these criminal psychopaths were brought to account for what they have been doing for a century to the population in Palestine. These invaders, who have been calling themselves "Israelis" since 1948, have taken every effort Palestinians have made to defend themselves as an invitation to clobber them with overwhelming force. These outrages must be stopped.
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2006-07-06 15:36:48
Nawal:
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What an excellent interview, well done Jon Snow ….wish we had more people like you in the media so that the public are informed about truth….so once again well done and stand firm to the truth and you will prevail !!!!!!
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2006-07-06 16:07:47
Amjad:
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Dear Mr. Jon snow, believe me the Israeli government are the real terrorists, I live in Jerusalem, and i know them very much, and what happened now in Gaza strip is a few percent of the fact. About killing civilians please try to visit this link to know what they did in Nablus before few days, we have 10000 men in Israeli prisons, we are missing them, we will do any thing to let them join the childhood of their Childs. <a href="http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=552011189&security=LBNblF">Thanks any way. the link</a>
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2006-07-06 19:35:49
Mostafa Masri:
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A light of truth for a change! Thank you Mr. Snow and Channel 4 for the courage to stand by the truth. Thank you for the program. Truth has its supporters even thousands of miles away.
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2006-07-06 20:06:23
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Thank you Mr Snow, you have given people who campaign against injustice a voice in the media. You have also challenged extremists, on both sides of the argument.
May God Bless you & your family A Fellow British Muslim Citizen
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2006-07-06 21:10:48
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I commend you on your courage to face the might of the israel lobby that has engulfed the Western World.
Please refer to: http://johnmearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/A0040.pdf
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2006-07-06 21:32:11
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I have no idea why on earth anyone should be upset at the excellent Jon Snow interview with the Israeli ambassador. Unless they are utterly unreasonable people or simply mad Zionists who cannot see what Israel does is WRONG. Period.
Jon Snow should be applauded not criticised. I am not a Muslim (I mention this to show that I am not subject to any bias as regards religion) and for several years it must be completely clear to anyone with a brain that Israel is a very nasty racist apartheid state that regularly gets away with the most ghastly atrocities. The Palestinians particularly in Gaza are packed in to what is basically an open prison and are constantly subjected to bombardments illegal internments etc etc. The whole place is controlled by Israel. Sea air and land. Jon Snow was simply telling the truth - and pointing out what many people, Muslim or non Muslim thnk anyway.. He was quite correct to mention that Israel is heavily armed, there was no need to take out the power station and all the other relevant things he said. I am just sorry that the interview didn't go on longer. Well done Channel 4 - it's about time we heard people tell it as it is.....................and Jon Snow did just that. Keep up the good work. Yours Sincerely Roddy Segrave
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2006-07-06 23:38:10
Zara Shaikh:
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Jon Snow should run in the parlimentary election.. and Should become the priminister of Great Britain..Way to Jon Snow.. U make us all proud Duas
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2006-07-07 07:42:03
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I did not see the article but I could guess the content from the comments of people about it. Israel with the help of the U.S. has committed the most terrorist acts ever. Also the U.S. called on Israel when they invaded Iraq so they can help in committing more terrorist acts in the name of democracy. I have no problem with Israel having a country but I have a problem with the way they behave. They kill, rape, and destroy in the name of democracy. I applaud john snow for standing up because it seems that everyone is scared to speak against israel. People don't think much about this but if you look at the media and the movies you will always find jews being mentioned as good people arabs as bad and terrorists. Israel can have nuclear weapons so can the U.S. but not Iran, North korea, or the Arabs. Israel can do anything and the American veto will help them get away with it. The Arabs or anyone else is at American's mercy when it comes to veto power. People let's wake up and bring back democracy and decency to the world.
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2006-07-07 16:40:42
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The collective punishment that the Palestinians endure on a daily basis is simply despicable. I just listened to the interview by Jon Snow and it was probably the first time I have heard a media member so strongly question an Israeli official. It is certainly about time someone is put on the griddle and made to answer the questions. The official did so quite pathetically by the way.
I read some of the posts on this board and see some very good questions directed at this Dr. Alderman but the person with no answers instead chooses to say "[t]he Palestinian elected a government dedicated to the eradication of the Jewish state. The Palestinian electorate must now accept the consequences of that decision". So a democratically elected government entitles other governments who see them as a hindrance to reoccupy their land and kill their people? It was not the government that captured the soldier despite what you might wish to believe. This was simply a pretext used by the occupier to do the extraordinary amount of damage to the infrastructure being built and to the people of the land. I believe in a two state solution but a situation where one side can so easily humiliate the other is not one that will work.
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2006-07-08 01:07:46
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Well I can't fully support this fully if as I have not seen the interview. But well done to Snow for conducting something which has gotten so much attention.
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2006-07-08 01:09:19
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Has anybody ever thought about what cost - humanitarian, psychological, ethical, moral and financial - the ENTIRE world is paying so that Israel can hang on to a few km of land? The entire world's psyche is in a state of anger and depression, governments are diverting BILLIONS of dollars from social programs towards security issues arising from international frustration with the Palestinian's suffering, entire peoples and religions are being pitted against each other, and for what? Is there gold or oil in the occupied territories that we dont know about? Why do I in Canada, have to suffer with fear every day because of a few acres of land? 1000 years from now, will it all have been worth it?
"The whole world is suffering because of the occupation..."
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2006-07-08 02:10:32
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Mr Snow,
It's not easy to tell the truth, you are taking the first steps, I hope that all the journalists will follow you in bringing the real story from both sides, We all be asked in front off God, did you help you brothers and sisters on earth when they were suffering the injustice of this world. CK
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2006-07-08 23:19:56
Shazia Parveen:
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Please sign this petition for the Palestinians:
http://www.palestinecampaign.org/petition.asp To stop starving the palestinian people!!!
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2006-07-09 12:31:52
Shazia Parveen:
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In reply to Dr David Barrett i would say tell it to the thousands that will sign the petition inshallah...you are clearly blinded by the truth...
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2006-07-10 09:17:04
iftikhar malik:
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Please read Johann Hari's piece on the continuing tragedy of 1.4 million abandoned human beings in Gaza in today's Independent. 60% of them are children. By the way the piece is by a non-Muslim woman!
------------------- Johann Hari: "The real reason why Israel is using such violence against the Palestinians in Gaza". The last three weeks have not been primarily about an Israeli soldier, a slew of rockets or Hamas Published: 10 July 2006 If you have never been there, it's hard to give a sense of the cramped claustrophobia of Gaza. It is a tiny patch of land squeezed between the sea and the local superpower, where 1.4 million people live locked in fear and never leave. I couldn't find anybody my age who had ever been beyond Gaza in the rotting refugee camps and concrete slabs of poverty that fill the Strip. They were stuck in their little sand-and-concrete hole, smaller than the Isle of Wight, dreaming angry dreams of Jerusalem; the rest of the world seems to them unimaginably far away. Their world begins and ends with the beaches to one side - now unusable because of Israeli attacks - and the tanks to the other.Article Length: 1100 words (approx.)
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2006-07-10 17:31:17
Shazia Parveen:
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Dear Dr David Barrett:i dont need to read your long winded explaination of why Israel is killing Palestinians because the facts are simple. To defend Palestinians and condemn Israel you need to use few words but funny how when you try and justify what Israel are doing you need pages if not volumes of excuses because none are really good enough to justify what they are doing.
So listening carefully Israel are the occupier who are now persecuting the Palestinian people whom they stole the land from and now they are collectively punishing the Palestinians in an act which is illegal under the Geneva Conventions. Why??? You may ask - well the Palestinians committed the biggest crime ever - they democratically elected a government…..OH NO WELL FOR THAT THEY MUST OBVIOUSLY PAY!!!! You talk about terrorism… funny how everyone uses that these days to justify anything in the world…the biggest terrorists in the world today are George W Bush and Israel collectively oh and I nearly forgot our own democratically elected terrorist Mr. Blair!!!
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2006-07-10 19:59:48
Shazia Parveen:
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A state can protect it self by any means you say DR then why do you condemn Hamas for protecting their people from the occupier.
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2006-07-11 19:02:36
Shazia Parveen:
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Israel’s crimes are clear for all to see as are the actions of Hamas let the people decide who they believe is the oppressor and occupier...even with what little true media coverage there actually is i think you will find most people even some Jews and Israelis themseleves believe Israel to be the oppressor of the Palestinian people...
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2006-07-11 22:08:07
Shazia Parveen:
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Its true what they say the bullied do become the bullies look at the jewish.
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2006-07-12 13:58:58
Dr David Barrett:
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Thank you for a degree of moderation Yes ,people everywhere have to make up their own minds but I would like to remind you that Israel permits journalists into Gaza and 'west bank'> witness Pallywood. Honest coverage there should be but many film crews want cover page & this has led to distorted/ untruthful coverage in many instances. And yes there are Jews here and abroad who see it the way you see it.Whilst we may not like them we do not jail/ punish them - whereas I cannot say the same for the other side.
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2006-07-12 16:11:32
iftikhar malik:
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Dear All,The following letter in today's Guardian carrying the names of so many concerned British citizens should be more than enough to highlight the ongoing tragedy in Gaza and other Occupied Territories. Messers Barrett and Alderman, please read it carefully as there is an urgent need to rise above proclivities to hoist the banner of human kindness! How long we will hide beind wordsmithery and smokescreen? Billions of people around the world know what is going on: colonisation, brutalisation, expulsions, denoigration and all with an accompanying self-denial, which is not helping Israel and its propoents at all. Tragedy is a tragedy and let us get out of this cul-de-sac. Your arguments are too far wide and overstretched. Just listen to humanity all around!________________________________________"End this punishment of the Palestinians", Wednesday July 12, 2006, The Guardian
The Israeli government's behaviour at present is to be condemned (Report, July 8). The failure of our government to speak out against Israel's oppression of the Palestinian population is complicit with those actions of the EU, the US and Israel. It is, in effect, a coordinated attempt to collectively punish the Palestinian people for electing a government of which they disapprove. Having lectured the people of the Middle East about democracy for decades, Europe and the US are seeking to trample upon the democratic rights of the Palestinian people. The suspension of aid by the EU and the US, the withholding of Palestinian taxes by Israel, and Israel's illegal blockade are crimes against the Palestinian people. They are creating a humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza and the West Bank and have emboldened Israel to sustain an unrelenting bomb and missile barrage, which regularly kills innocent children and other noncombatants in violation of the fourth Geneva convention which protects civilians under occupation. Israel has bombed the only power station in Gaza, destroying electricity and water supplies to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, and forcing tens of thousands to flee from their homes. These are crimes against humanity. Israel has now kidnapped a quarter of the parliament elected by the Palestinians, and half of its democratically elected government. They join thousands of other Palestinians illegally kidnapped or imprisoned, including over 300 children. We call upon the British government: 1) To immediately work for the restoration of EU aid to the Palestinian Authority; 2) to demand that Israel ends its blockade and pass on taxes; 3) to demand that Israel cease all military action in the occupied territories; 4) to demand the release of all elected Palestinian officials and the instigation of a programme for the release of all prisoners held in violation of international law; 5) to apply pressure through the UN for Israel to respect the UN resolutions requiring its withdrawal from the territories it illegally occupied in 1967; 6) to end Britain's arms trade with Israel until it abides by international law.Ken LivingstoneMayor of LondonJohn PilgerBetty HunterPalestine Solidarity CampaignLord Ian GilmourProf Moshe MachoverProf Avi ShlaimDaniel MachoverJuliet StevensonBella FreudAhdaf SoueifPeter Kilfoyle MPClare Short MPDerek Wyatt MPHelen Goodman MPJeremy Corbyn MPPaul Flynn MPFrank Cook MPJohn Austin MPHywel Williams MPLinda Riordan MPPeter Soulsby MPHarry Cohen MPMike Hancock MPMike Wood MPKarma NabulsiKeith SonnetUNISON Deputy General SecretaryRev. Cannon Garth HewittRev. Stephen SizerMajed Al Zeer Andrew De La TourTony BennVictoria BrittainAndy BainPresident TSSA*Baljeet GhaleNUT Senior Vice-President*Baroness Jenny TongeBruce KentCaryl ChurchillCharles AspreyCorin RedgraveDr. Ghada KarmiGargi BhattacharyyaVice-President University and College Union (personal capacity)Prof Anthony ZahlanProf Hilary RoseProf Steven Rose Ruqayyah CollectorNUS National Black Students OfficerSacha CraddockSteve KempNUM General SecretarySusan Wooldridge
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2006-07-12 18:41:41
Shazia Parveen:
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So soliders who refuse to fight the unjust casue of Israel dont get punished... i have heard of many solider refusing to fight in Gaza been locked and i call that punishment.
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2006-07-12 22:57:38
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Whilst the contents of the letter that you have posted is quite clearly one sided -- there being no mention of the events that gave rise to Israels need to deal with Hamas ie the kidnapping of a soldier from Israeli soil and the murder of another 2 in similar circumstances --- I pay no attention to it because the signatories are well known consistent left wing anti Israel personalities who have never had a good word for Israel in any matter whatsoever in the past.
They all fall into a specific category. The fact that Rude Red Len is the first makes me puke!
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2006-07-13 09:48:50
Salim Jaffer:
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In response to Geoffrey Alderman's comment that Zionists paid Muslim landowners for land 100 years ago. This is complete rubbish, there is no single part of Israel that was not previously occupied by Palestinians, the majority of whom were driven from their homes at gunpoint. The myth of "a land without people for a people without land" has been swallowed whole by the west. Perhaps Mr Alderman can explain why the IDF raided the Palestinian Land Registry and confiscated computerised and hardcopy deeds and records of land ownership.
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2006-07-13 21:41:35
Sajjad:
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Mr Snow, well done you have shown your great skills in speaking the truth yet again!
These are the interviews that every person should here it should NOT stop here, we need more similar interviews in future!
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2006-07-15 11:17:41
Dr David Barrett:
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Salim
Grow up What you are saying is TOTAL RUBBISH Under Ottoman law many land parcels were sold to Jewish people and registered accordingly and the deeds are extant today . PLR was raided to obtain , I suspect,all documents related to fraudulent transfers carried out by a PLO management
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2006-07-15 19:36:03
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This shows how utter pathetic zionists are, the White & non White haters live in their own delusional world. No actual proof of ANY land being "sold" to the mass murdering settlers. The actual inhabitants still have the original keys & deeds. So why should the real people of the Middle East "sell" their land to a genocidal terrorist? It reminds me of Alistair Campbell who said "I say it is true, therfore it is true".
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2006-07-16 09:25:22
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