| MPACUK Northern Branch: Talk on Rising Islamophobia! |
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| Tuesday, 30 October 2007 | |
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*Digging their heads deeper into the soil in the hope that no-one will notice them? *Throwing shoes at George Bush when he appears on TV and claiming he is the dajjal? *Seeing a bomb go off in Palestine and switching the TV off with just a murmur of sympathy? *Sitting in the corner of a dark room reading 'la howla wala kua tha illa billa'? *Blinking like dummies while non-Muslim campaigners try to fight for their rights? *Tutting disapprovingly about respect when a sister goes out to campaign when they couldn't be bothered to move their own backsides? Did you know? 1) 'The pre-charge detention refers to the period of time that an individual can be held and questioned by police, prior to being charged with an offence. For individuals suspected of terrorism, the maximum period is currently 28 days – seven times the pre-charge detention limit for someone suspected of murder.'? (Liberty) 2) The current 28-day limit of detention without trial is already the longest in Europe? 3) The UK police terrorism arrest statistics (excluding Northern Ireland) show that from 11 September 2001 – 31 March 2007, 96.6% of those arrested under the Terrorism Act, usually in the full glare of publicity, were innocent of any terrorist activity? (Link) 4) The pre-charge detention consultation by the Home Office admits that the case for further extension does not have any evidential basis stating “…since the 2006 legislation came into effect, there has been no case in which a suspect was released but a higher limit than 28 days would definitely have led to a charge.”? 5) “There is a real danger that the longest periods of pre-charge detention will be used for those people against whom there is the least evidence.” ‘Pre-charge detention in terrorism cases.’ NEW LAW Journal, 20 October 2006? Are Muslims going to do anything about this? THE MPACUK RESPONSE MPACUK are alerting the public of the seriousness of such legislation which as shown above is likely to affect the Muslim community above all others. We must ensure that before Gordon Brown formally proposes a bill to Parliament doubling detention without charge to 56 days, MPs are lobbied to vote against this. If you are living in Manchester or the surrounding areas come to our next campaigns meeting to find out how you can get involved. Join MPACUK North with our talk on the rise of Islamophobia and participate in the Jihad! Date: 3rd November 2007 Timings: 4pm - 7pm
Venue: Email us now at info@mpacuk.org for more information. If you can't do anything else, then please at least sign the petition against the 56 day detention here           Readers have left 10 comments.
Hero:
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I don't know but I am sure MI5 are watching them hahahaaa. By the way Hilary Clinton is a liar, she changes her position on everything and it is reported that she has never said she opposes the war to any of her close friends. She is a liar and supported a bill calling the Iranian revolutionary guards terrorists. Pray to god this evil women doesn't get in. I have a feeling she is going to be worse than Bush.
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2007-11-01 00:48:14
ShahidM:
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"George Bush still thinks he can hear God"
And didn't The Prophet, didn't Moses, didn't Jesus ........ Don't billions pray to a God? Don't millions believe they "hear the words of God"? Wouldn't you rather that politicians were guided by God rather than any personal animus? Or is God irrelevant, and hence religions pure fantasy. Make your mind up!
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2007-11-01 07:36:16
haqqer:
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be a politician and dont be defensive, be offensive, ALWAYS lead any issue with Islamic agenda. policy is not about majority/ minority, muslims are largest minority, yet hindu/sikh india can do no wrong, and is being charmed. All things are connected intn'lly. Therefore push this: ask when is govt gonna stop interfering abroad? posing threats, killing muslims?
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2007-11-01 13:31:01
ShahidM:
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be a politician and dont be defensive, be offensive, ALWAYS lead any issue with Islamic agenda. policy is not about majority/ minority, muslims are largest minority, yet hindu/sikh india can do no wrong, and is being charmed. All things are connected intn'lly. Therefore push this: ask when is govt gonna stop interfering abroad? posing threats, killing muslims? — haqqerMuslims AREN'T the largest minority. Homosexuals are a minority twice as large as the number of Muslims in the UK. 5% of a population are homosexual. In the UK that means 3 million homosexuals. Therefore, in political vote terms the Homosexual vote carries more weight than the Muslim vote.
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2007-11-01 16:14:49
Galaxy:
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"George Bush still thinks he can hear God" — ShahidMAnd didn't The Prophet, didn't Moses, didn't Jesus ........ Are u saying George Bush is a prophet? It seems like ur mind is a bit confused.
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2007-11-01 18:41:37
ShahidM:
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"George Bush still thinks he can hear God" — GalaxyAnd didn't The Prophet, didn't Moses, didn't Jesus ........ Are u saying George Bush is a prophet? It seems like ur mind is a bit confused. No, I'm saying that leaders of people, even people who take their country and armies to war, have all had experiences of believing God has spoken to them. I am merely suggesting that having a dialogue with God isn't a reason for abuse or denigration - unless you are willing to apply that rule to anyone who 'speaks with God'
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2007-11-02 09:21:23
Umar:
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Islamophobia is nothing new. It has been around since the time of the prophet (saw). Islam is a threat to the capitalist ideology. The only viable threat. This is the reason why Islam is attacked. To demonise and slander it, and to label muslims as terrorists and extremists. To justify the war on Islam.
It is high time we stopped being defensive and went on the attack. Let us attack the western capitalist ideology and its flaws. When the hijab is attacked let us not respond with whimpers of it is not obligatory/it is up to the individual, let us respond with "is not the fact that a woman feels she needs to remove her clothes to please man oppression?Is not the fact that women need to feel they need to be a size 10 oppression?Is the porn industry not oppression of women?" When the palestinians defending their own land are attacked and labelled as terrorist, let us, instead of talking of the need for negotiation and despair at the situation turn it back to the British people and say "imagine Germany (for instance) decided to invade Britian tomorrow to create a new state for Germans, would it not be right for the British people to be able to defend their families and property/should we sit at the negotiating table when our people are being slaughtered and our wealth plundered?" When muslims are condemned as terrorists , and we are asked to either condemn terrorism (or effectively support it), let us say "yes we condemn terrorism if by terrorism you also mean the murder of 1000000 iraqis since the invasion, the daily humiliation and genocide of our brothers and sisters in palestine, kashmir, uzbekistan, chechyna etc etc etc" instead of saying simply, that these (ie 9/11 and 7/7) are the actions of extremists and we should work against extremism in our communities. How about we work against extremism and terrorism worldwide, where the actions of the western powers DWARF the actions of a frustrated, misguided few? This is the way to combat islamophobia, not to state the shariah and then utter a conciliatory comment, or to profess a watered down version of the shariah, or indeed to (inauzubillah) deny that the shariah demands such and such a thing at all and proclaim the need for a modernist contemporary version of shariah conforming to western designs. Let us show the beauty of islam by exposing the fallacies of western capitalist ideology, in the way that the Prophet (saw) showed the beauty of Islam in comparison to the jahiliyyah. Allh (swt) commands us in the Quran: "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." (16:125) He (swt) also declares the virtue of the dawah carrier: “Who is better in speech than one who calls to Allah, works righteousness and says: "I am of those who bow in Islam"? 41:33 May we be inspired and driven by the worlds of our lord to the ways of the best people of our lord (ie his Prophets and messengers) Ameen
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2007-11-03 11:44:48
ShahidM:
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When the palestinians defending their own land are attacked and labelled as terrorist, let us, instead of talking of the need for negotiation and despair at the situation turn it back to the British people and say "imagine Germany (for instance) decided to invade Britian tomorrow to create a new state for Germans, would it not be right for the British people to be able to defend their families and property/should we sit at the negotiating table when our people are being slaughtered and our wealth plundered?" — UmarWhat absolute B........ Do you knw the difference between "Analogy" and "Parody"? Analogy is an example that mirrors reality. Parody, is distortion of a model of reality in order to create a humorous commentary. What you wrote is a Parody of the truth. You are in denial of the thousands of years of pre-Islamic history whereby Jews ruled the area you call Palestine. They haven't invaded Palestinian territory since the identity "Palestinians" was created by Arafat after the failed Arab attacks on Israel in 1948 and 1967. It is actually the Arabs who have failed to invade Israel. The reality is the opposite of your Parody. BTW, as a Muslim you should know that ALlah gave The Land of Israel to the Jewish Nation in the Koran. Why don't you know that?
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2007-11-03 16:56:57
Zesto:
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Looks like the 90 days idea has been defeated. Hurrah!
Looks like they will settle for 50-56 days instead according to the BBC today (Sunday) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7077685.stm
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2007-11-04 15:38:07
Umar:
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"BTW, as a Muslim you should know that ALlah gave The Land of Israel to the Jewish Nation in the Koran." -ShahidM
SubhanAllah brother. Please can you give me the reference of your Quranic evidence, I would be much intrigued to read this. And to address your other point, if you actually read my comment clearly, I was not arguing for the rights of the palestinians to rule the land in Palestine, that is a different discussion. I was attempting to show how when, in their daily lives, they are attacked and humiliated and their women raped and children killed, that it is not terrrorism for them to defend what they own. See the difference? If you want to go into the topic of whether (the land of) "israel" should be under Jewish rule or not, I suggest you read about something called the "Umari treaty", which is binding on you, as a muslim. The Umari treaty being the one signed by the people in rule of the land in discussion and the 2nd, and one of the rightly guided Caliphs of the muslims, Umar (may Allah be pleased with him). And my third point to your good self is that when saying "palestinians", I was referring to the indigenous arab population of the land of "Israel" who had a great injustice done to them when the land of "Israel" was formed, as this is the name by which they are widely known. Palestinians.
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2007-11-10 17:30:44
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