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| Sunday, 18 June 2006 | |
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Melanie Phillips, the Mad one they call a “star columnist” at the Daily Mail, appeared on Sky News this morning, alongside an MPACUK representative.
More truthfully, and a title that seems more apt, the year before, in 2003, Melanie Philips was named the "Most Islam phobic Media Personality of the Year " by the Islamic Human Rights Commission.
She has gone so far as to declare on Radio 4’s Moral Maze, that the standard practice of Muslims of removing body hair, for reasons of cleanliness, is to be assumed as preparation for suicide bombing! I wonder if she ever ponders just how ridiculous she sounds with her uneducated, preposterous ravings…
          Readers have left 25 comments.
Aftab:
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I think her pathetic attempt to defend Israel of any involvement in the Beach killings reflects her deep rooted support for the Zionist state. It also demonstrates her absurd way of thinking, she comments on the reporting of the Beach killings:
"The Israelis may be criticised for many things but they do not generally tell lies. Yet the British media assume they do" This claim would astound even a Zionist...! Given that Muslims are united on their opposition to the Zionist State, Mad Mel's defensive thoughts and her consequent writings serve only to attack the Muslims, not missing a single oppurtunity.
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2006-06-19 01:19:35
Abdul Jalil:
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Mad Mel is a reason why Muslims need to both unite and react on an intellectual level to take apart her obvious Islamaphobic beliefs.
We need to have a higher profile in the media along with a more representative 'face' than that of the old Labour Party loving Mullahs who portray us as wife beating, narrow minded and oppressive!!
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2006-06-19 07:39:41
ha ha ha:
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This so called “journalist” is what is wrong with the UK, calling others a 5th column & saying they are Anti Semitic is the height of hypocrisy, the UK is a base of spreading hatred worldwide thanks to her. Just a few weeks ago the Russians told off the UK for harbouring fanatics & terrorists who use this countries passport to commit mass murder & spread disinformation. Guess who they blamed, the actual 5th column. For example what religion was ezra, Maxwell,, Philby, etc?? This is the cause of ours & the world problems. This country has such a bad reputation as its israel first, UK second are again shown what is wrong.
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2006-06-19 15:51:01
Bilal Patel:
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She looked very uncomfortable being on the defensive and saying that a majority of Muslims were OK. I would have retorted by saying that no - it's not OK. A majority of Muslims hate everything that 'Israel' stands for and yes, that they actually support the so-called 'Islamists'. So if she's got a problem with the 'Islamists' then she's actually got a problem with Muslims, which she does.
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2006-06-19 16:47:49
Jack:
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Could it not be argued that a defining difference between a peaceful (but by no means pacifist)Muslim and a Jihadhist,is that the former would offer some degree of support to the attack on the Pentagon but none to the one on the Twin Towers.
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2006-06-19 18:12:16
Fatima Ainekar:
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asalaam alaikum! What is the woman going on about? She is blatantly going against herself! 1 minute she says not 'all muslims' are terrorists, then the next minute 'Islamic doctrine' has elements of terrorism! Well if 'Islamic Doctrine' had elements of terror, then we all would be terrorists and the world would have ended by now! Because so many Muslims practice the path laid for them by their Lord, ALLAH! As far as my understanding goes those who go against Islam, do so only because they know it to be true, But the love of this world is greater for them. This woman needs help! someone direct her to the Qur'an!
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2006-06-19 18:13:50
SirB:
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What Asgar failed to do was tactifully and cleverly point to melanies dual loyalities and her Jewsih and Zionist background.
No point in arguing and getting too hot headed. Just point out the Zionists hidden agenda and tell the world about it.
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2006-06-19 20:47:33
Bilal Patel:
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Exactly SirB. 3 points to make are:
(a) Why should the UK compromise it's national security by spending it's energy and resources trying to protect a foreign power (the Zionist state)? (b) Is Phillips British or Israeli? Whose side is she on? She refused to answer the question by a fellow Jew (Will Self) as to who she would support if there was a war between the UK and the Jewish state. (c) Is it in this country's national interest or does it promote it's national security to have Jews who hold both British passports and the passports of a Jewish state. If we are talking about integration, then are these Jews fully integrated British citizens, or do they pose a threat to the national interests of this country? (d) Are Jews in this country willing to face the same conditions that Jews impose on others in Occupied Palestine. That is to say, should they all be rounded up and put into camps? After all, this is what they have done to the Arabs. If this is not acceptable, then why is it acceptable in Occupied Palestine, and why do people like Melanie Phillips support such policies?
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2006-06-19 23:16:31
answer now:
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Answer their questions "h lyons", the actual Brtish population wants answers, not some blame shifting. Especially as the bombs on Britain aspect goes back to pre WW2, the mass murder of Whites by zionists in Palestine or giving our secrets away to the relatives in Germany. So what side are you on?
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2006-06-20 17:38:52
hanan fadali:
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What was the last thing this crazy hag said????? She said this terrorism is rooted in religion and we can't defeat it unless...??? Unless what?! What would a sentence like that end with? What is she suggesting???? To wipe out Islam...is that wot she was getting at?? If anyone can make it out or saw the commentary on tv pls let me know! Good job to the MPAC rep...nice one. I'd probably have said something similar...especially the foreign policy thing.
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2006-06-21 11:37:15
Kalim:
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SHE IS ONE TWISTED PERSON, telling us why we are angry, Asga done well with more clear and concise arguments. Regarding the question on which foreign policy brought about 911, well the US vetoed 35 time action against Israel for breaking international laws and crimes against Palestinians in the UN Security Council. I wonder if Melanie Phillips would ever write a book on that, she knows very well if she dared then she will be penniless. No principles, just greed!
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2006-06-21 13:53:17
Ackbar my ass:
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"A majority of Muslims hate everything that 'Israel' stands for and yes, that they actually support the so-called 'Islamists'."
And you wonder why there is "islamophobia"... "Mad Mel is a reason why Muslims need to both unite and react on an intellectual level to take apart her obvious Islamaphobic beliefs." You can start by not going nuts when people print cartoons, stabbing people for making movies, flying airplanes full of people into buildings full of people...you know, stuff like that. That would be more of an "intellectual level" then we have become used to.
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2006-06-22 00:13:50
Josh:
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I am amazed you hosted this clip.
It, in isolation, does not support your contention. She comes across as rather rational and considered and, unfortunately, Asghar seems to launch into diatribe & name calling and not actually engage in discussion choosing instead to misrepresent (or wilfully misunderstand) what she said. You can see the presenter Adam Boulton actually struggling to get the guy to rationalize his statements. And that does not reflect well on Asghar.
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2006-06-22 00:59:09
snowball:
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Aska sounds like a idiot talking out of both sides of his mouth, and you fools think he got the best of Ms. Phillips.
Your religion drives everything you do. In almost all of the wars and conflicts in the world, Muslims are involved on one or both sides, yet Islam is a religion of peace. Yeah, right. Hateful religion for hate filled people. The world is starting to see you for the dishonest losers that you are. Islam creates nothing but hatred, bloodshed, and the oppression of women. All of the technology that you buy with your petrodollars was invented by infidels.
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2006-06-22 01:22:50
Patrick:
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"they are fuelled by an ideology that itself is non-negotiable and forms a continuum tht links peaceful law-abiding but nonetheless intensely ideological muslims at one end and murderous jihadists at the other..."
She certainly nailed and defined you guys, didnt she, as well as you can be defined in one sentence. Shes not the first to do it..how bout that apostate Syrian woman? And you respond only in your usual stunted infantile way to this or any other criticism or bullseye home-truths.. It must be driving you crazy today that you cant deal with her according to Sharia law.. Oh, yeah, she had no reasoned arguments, all the reasoned arguments came from your Islamic talking head...oh, please. You are just a blight on us...
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2006-06-22 02:16:42
george:
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just seen the video. please explain why you think this womens a nutcase,,,,,
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2006-06-22 06:07:59
Charles Simmonds:
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Islam is a warlike religion that has been imposed on unwilling peoples over its 1400-year history by the sword. Any attempt to claim otherwise is deceitful. Will Muslims ever be able to rise above their sense of victimhood and ingrained inferiority complex sufficiently to imagine what it is like for non-Muslims sharing a world with 1,4 billion people who deep down believe that it is their divine duty to impose their beliefs on others by force and who furthermore believe that taking the lives of kuf'faar is not only justified in "Allah"'s eyes but will also rewarded.
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2006-06-22 09:01:40
Edwin Svigals:
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Mad Mel, who is well known for her “criticism of modern Britain and the government’s apparent lack of dedication to the war on terror.” and sweeping ideas of Islam ("Islamist extremism is rooted in religion "), is also responsible for inciting hatred of Muslims.
Really, Muslims themselves do a very good job on their own inciting hatred - Melanie needn't strain in the least...
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2006-06-22 15:37:24
billy best:
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And you think at Mpac came out best in that discussion. Take a long hard look at it again his ranting about foreign policy given muslims the right for terrorism just about sums up what the majority of people already know that msulims and others like him see no digust at terrorism commited in the name of islam and will continually try to excuse that with the same old argument .Extreme islamists like him and others have no place in a democratic society .He seems to think that 2% of the population should be making policy for the other 98% .
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2006-06-22 16:41:17
sigmund, carl and alfred:
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Please, continue publishing articles such as this.
There cannot be enough examples of what distinguishes the civilized world from those that choose to remain dysfunctional.
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2006-06-22 18:18:51
Chris:
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Asghar Bukhari came across terribly, his type is dangerous, they dress as a western but has the intellect of a pea and the views/opinions of a extremist jihadist. I think mad Mel has a point, I may even read her book.
MPAC stop the rhetoric, promote debate and understanding, get rid of the chip on your shoulder, take a lead, be responsible and try and build bridges not hatreds and dogmatic views and join the civilised world.
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2006-06-26 22:44:47
to chris:
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You should join the civilised world as any zionist is an anathma to it, this racist blames everybody else but herself. She came across as a the British people see her, a traitor & a extreme fanatic that has no grasp of how to debate. This fifth column should be careful that all the proof in the world is ther to prosecute her for incitement.
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2006-06-27 20:17:27
Geoffrey:
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Well done Melanie. In the limited time available, you managed to get your point over, unlike the Muslim spokesman who was almost incoherent and made no valid points.
We in the West are indeed at great risk of being forced to accept an intolerant and repressive system. The calls for sharia law to be applied here, the willingness to accept all the benefits of our liberal ways while at the same time condemning them, point to the rejection our ways and the intention to impose alien ones upon us. How do the Muslims explain away the murders carried out in the name of their religion on 7/7 and 9/11? Muslims who live in the West, whether immigrants or born here, and who, it should be pointed out, are in a minority, have to decide if they want to live by Western liberal standards, even if they dislike them, or move to other countries where their form of religion is practiced. It is time they decided.
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2006-06-30 16:50:51
Jenny:
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Well done this site as the Anti Semites are coming out in droves to defend el(al) mel. This so called journalist is as incoherent as possible, its murmerings were incoherent as humanly possible. Her defense of genocide is so obvious to the UK population as is the false flag attacks carried out throughout history. Its time to deport as this is so incompatible with not only Western values (& Eastern) (equality, civilisation, morality & facts) that this must be done asap. It blame shifting was invented during the Apartheid regime, it claimed "the greater good" for its religion as did Hitler. How laughable to call itself 'liberal' since the word has no meaning from such a person since its actions only prove what is day in day out. Utter loyalty is too far a thing to go for them as is its fundamentalist hatred as it called yesterday on the beeb for the extermination of entire countries. Well elal mel no more.
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2006-06-30 21:31:27
Benjamin.:
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In America people like Pat Buchanan and Tom Tancredo (R-CO) are routinely called racist for their views on illegal immigration. It seems that labeling Ms. Phillips as "Islam-phobic" stems from the same line of thinking. Pat Buchanan and Tom Tancredo don't hate Mexicans just as Ms. Phillips does not hate Islam. When someone, such as Ms. Phillips, refuses to be over-the-top-walking-on-eggshells politically correct, the easiest thing to do is brand them as a racist rather than debate them on the points.
On the Crossfire interview, Mr. Bukhari tries to slap down Ms. Phillips' arguments simply by saying she is not Muslim. What a bogus argument. That's like saying straight people can't argue about gay marriage because they are not gay. Another mind-blowingly bogus argument: Saying that all terrorist acts are result of foreign policy. I won't say that isn't a factor because it certainly is, but Islamofascism cannot be shrugged off as nonexistent when it comes to worldwide terrorist acts. Spreading that kind of bunk is very dangerous. Overall I just have to say weak sauce, Mr. Bukhari, weak sauce.
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2006-10-20 07:00:57
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