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“In the morning when the door was smashed down and the British police stormed my home. My three month pregnant wife and myself were there at the time. My wife who is not from this country was shocked mentally and psychologically.” (Mustapha Labsi, Foreign National detained in Belmarsh). Imagine the lives of the families whose husbands and fathers are detained:
“She was left with her children with a broken door for several days and was terrified that people would break in and attack her. She was terrorised by her racist neighbour who set his dog on her and threw cleaning water on her on the stairs of her estate.” (Niki Adams, Legal Action for Women).
"I didn’t sleep that night and for two days I sat in the park with the children so they would run about and not see my tears”. (Wife of Jamil El Banna detained in Guantanamo Bay).
"We are devastated and helpless and losing hope by the day. Even animals have more rights to care and concern than the interned and even those who commit the most heinous crimes are given access to fair trial and jury.” (Wives of detainees)
"Their kids just couldn’t understand it, there was nothing the mothers could say to explain why their fathers had been taken away from them…" (Niki Adams, Legal Action for Women).
"She has found deeply hurtful the loss of some Muslim former friends who, perhaps, fearing the taint of ‘terrorism’ have abandoned her.” (Victoria Brittain, about the wife of Jamil El Banna). Please open your eyes.
Gordon Brown formally proposes a bill to parliament doubling detention without charge to 56 days. MPs need to be lobbied to vote against this.
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MPACUK    Readers have left 9 comments.
Devorah:
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The effects on these people is heart rendering.
But what can the police do that is different? Surely some of these trauma are the same if the police carried-out a raid for drug dealers. I don't understand how a 56 day or 28 day detention makes any difference to the initial impact of the raid. Also, in what way have people been denied a 'fair trial and jury'. We are only talking about 28 days detention.
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2007-09-07 08:13:09
ROB:
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as 96.6% of the people were not convicted of any terror offences then you will realise that when those 97% have to spend 2 or 3 months in jail with the daily humiliation of them and their families in the media and what they go through even though they are innocent.
do you think they will come out all lovey dovey and be able to live their lives as normal after all that. the most sophictated crimes are financial crimes yet we do not have the government asking to lock up people for 56 days for that at the moment,the reason why not because they will not be able to get this passed by parliament as the public wil not stand for this,yet lets use the muslim boogeymen card and we shall get the bill passed and then we can use the law show we see fit on all the public. this is one more step towards a police state,if during 30 years of sophisticated I.R.A violence we never needed these laws we do not need them know,the laws are already there to be used. this is all a smoke screen to take away our rights using the muslims as boogeymen. the i.r.a struck every major british place yet these extreme laws were not passed,be aware of extremist control freaks. if the muslims were out to get people all the time then there are enough guns in the U.K for them to be killing hundreds of people everyday. wake up before it is too late down the slippery police state route.
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2007-09-07 10:34:31
Devorah:
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But ROB, they aren't spending "2 or 3 months in jail".
As it stands they faced a maximum of 28 days - or were charged. Then they spend as much time in jail as any other accused. Why is someone making a 'special' case because its Muslims? I understand that people will claim Islamaphobia or extra pressure on Muslim Communities but surely it isn't the fault of the police that many terrorists and plots have come from the Muslim Community - unfortunately. Where bombers and plotters have been from outside the Muslim Community the police have also arrested and charged them. The recent case of the ex-BNP members demonstrates that. He spent as much time in custody and under charge as any other British person. Why does a law designed for ALL terrorist suspects seem to impact on the Muslim Community more than any other. We don't see Hindu or Sikh Communities, or the West Indian Community protesting. We don't see the good citizens of Norfolk getting exercised about terrorist suspect arrests.
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2007-09-07 11:32:39
ROB:
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Devorah if a person was sentenced for 2 or 3 motnhs he would spend a month in side,so innocent people should think it is ok to be given a 2 or 3 months sentences equivalent just because someone says i suspect you are upto no good.
now to your point that other people who have committed acts of terror are charged under the same rules,for your information other people who have committed acts of terror like the b.n.p men were not charged under terror laws,the terrorist who let of 8 or 9 bombs some months ago was not charged under terrorism laws. these two people that we know about were not called christian terrorists and every conceivable act was not attributed to them by the media and government. these terror laws are to be used against muslims for the time being,once the muslim boogeymen has lived past its use then the whole of joe public will see how it is enforced. i wished to know whther you were genuine in your question or another biased and prejudicial person come to patrionise muslims. there enough zionists with everchanging names to do that.
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2007-09-07 11:53:32
Devorah:
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But ROB, if someone were sentenced to 2-3 months in prison then they would be Guilty of something.
Do you have a problem with Guilty people being put in prison BECAUSE they are a Muslim. It might interest you to know about the population of Muslims in UK prisons. In October 2004 it was just under 7,000 prisoners http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2005-02-01a.199893.h Home Office official report for October 2004 states that the prison population in total was 74,000 http://www.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/assets/documents/ 1000064C15102004_web_report.doc Therefore, approximately 9% of the prison population in October 2004 were Muslims. The percentage of Muslims in the UK is around 2.8% http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4385768.stm#uk Therefore, Muslims are over-represented as prisoners. I state these stats because you can use it to query why so many Muslims (as a percentage of the population) got to prison.
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2007-09-07 12:06:22
Syed:
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The 56 day detention refers to a PRE-CHARGE detention period.
In other words, you've not been arrested or charge with anything, but you can be detained for nearly two months based on the slightest of suspicions. The whole concept of 'innocent until proven guilty' - the epitome of justice and democracy - is being thrown out the window. Although internment in the latter two weeks is in a jail, for the first two weeks suspects are held in a police station where the rooms are only designed to hold someone for a maximum of 24 hours. This is NOT just a Muslim issue, it's a civil liberties issue that ALL British citizens should be deeply concerned about!
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2007-09-07 12:26:33
ROB:
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devorah i just read your comment on another issue and can safely say that you are another zionist come to patronise muslims.
it maybe beyond your clouded intellect to understand what was said in my comment,28 days is the equivalent of being given a 2 or 3 month sentence,since these people are innocent why should the spend that amnount of time being locked up. at least read the comments fully before giving your preheld biased and prejudical views,we do not wish to know how many muslims are lockedup comapred to other communities,just as do not want to know how many rapists and paedophiles are locked up,criminals who do the crime should do the time,their religion does not tell them to commit crimes. the blog is about extending 28 days to 56 days,either keep to what is being discussed or start your own website.
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2007-09-07 12:40:44
Devorah:
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Look chaps, I don't know why you can't get your brain's around this.
The PROPOSAL is 56 days which is 2 months. All the quotes are from people who's relatives could only have been held a maximum of 28 days so why did ROB say "held for 2 - 3 months" while being innocent. Well the maximum can only be 2 months if the idea is adopted so where does the '3 months' come from? (Are you reading my mind because I support 3 months.) I thought that the figures about Msulims being over-represented in prison was a useful stat for yoy to compalin that Muslims must be being targetted since you guys seem to like playing "victim". If MPAC UK have such a welcoming open policy about Comments then expect anyone to take advantage of that. If you don't like it then you will just be seething a bit more. I know that you expect women to be subservient but this one isn't. MPACUK Mod: All comments after this one were deleted for being off topic.
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2007-09-07 15:00:03
James:
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Well done for deleting the off topic comments. Your article is a reasonable one, we need to balance peoples civil liberties against the need to protect people from lunatics committing acts of Jihadi terrorism. 56 days is too long.
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2007-09-09 05:12:21
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