Zionists Attempt To Smear Jonathan Cook Just Like They Did With MPACUK Print E-mail
Tuesday, 21 August 2007
276813_newspaper_job_section.jpgIt is an honour of a kind, I suppose, to briefly have the most active thread on the Comment is free site. But not much of one when 95% of the posts rarely rose above the level of vitriolic name-calling. The posters probably know that by now I am immune to playground taunts of "scum" and "Nazi", but the abuse, I suspect, is meant more as a warning to others who might criticise Israel. Keep quite - or else.

Volcanic outbursts of hatred on Cif greet anyone who objects to Israel's policies: in my case, I sinned by pointing out that its leaders have turned the small community of Jews in Tehran into pawns in a struggle to persuade the world that Iran is a genocidal threat to world Jewry. My point was that Israel's concern is entirely hollow. It simply wants to mobilise support for an attack on Iran, either by itself or the US.

Some posters to this site seem to be aware of the organised nature of these critic-bashing campaigns. They note that sites like giyus.org rally the faithful to the cause. But most posters are probably not aware that giyus and its ilk are only the tip of a much larger effort called "hasbara" by Israel and its supporters. Usually the word is translated as "advocacy for Israel". I call it by its proper name: propaganda.

The main goal of hasbara is constantly to disseminate good news about Israel, largely independent of whether the news is true or not, in the hope that over time a benevolent image of Israel will be reinforced. Here's an example: in 2000 it was reported that an Israeli court ruling had ended the country's system of land apartheid, a legally enforced territorial separation that keeps Jewish and Arab citizens apart in most of country. To this day apologists cite this ruling as proof of equality in Israel, even though the decision only applied to one Arab family, has yet to be enforced, and the Israeli parliament is currently passing legislation to make sure it never is.

But the charm offensive is only the upside of their work. The downside is, as Cif posters know well, a relentless campaign to target, discredit and silence critics of Israel. It can take many forms, not only name-calling. I was intrigued to see several posters thought I had no right to criticise Israel because my wife is an Israeli citizen, though - and this is presumably her and my offence - she also happens to be a Palestinian. They would have a field day - but fail to see their own double standards - were I to suggest that only non-Jews be allowed to apologise for Israel.

A few posters made what appeared to be a substantive point: why had I failed to note that, while today 25,000 Jews live in Tehran, another 80,000 have fled? But look closer and the case crumbles. The overwhelming majority of those 80,000 Jews left in the wake of the country's Islamic revolution in 1979 - that is, nearly 30 years ago. They are irrelevant to Israel's current claims that the Iranian leadership is preparing to commit a genocide against the Jews. In any case, most of those fleeing Jews left because they were middle class and secular and saw no future in an Islamic state, despite reassurances from Ayatollah Khomeini that they would left in peace. In other words, they left - like many other Iranians - for economic reasons, not political or religious ones.

Other posters simply lied, in the great tradition of hasbara. Several suggested I had written that Rafik Hariri was killed by Israel. I hadn't, and you can check my website to be sure. I had also apparently written that the two Israeli soldiers killed in a Hizbullah operation last year were caught on Lebanese soil. Again a search failed to find the story. No matter. Truth is not what hasbara is about.

And if all this fails to discredit a critic of Israel, simply label him an anti-semite, and the argument can be closed. Game, set and match.

I am not sure if any other country or cause encourages this kind of mainly voluntary propaganda work, but I am sure that no other country or cause has the human resources that Israel can rely on to carry it out. There are thousands of people sitting at their computers ready to pounce. (I know because I have received abusive emails from them, unless it's just a handful with thousands of different email addresses.) They do not need orders or much guidance. They do it because they love Israel and see it as part of their life's work to protect Israel's image.

Doubtless, they believe what they write too. If you have been raised to live in constant fear of anti-semitism, and to see an anti-semitic impulse lurking in the recessses of every non-Jewish mind (an observation that is often publicly made in the Israeli and American media but less often here), then what other motive could someone like me have but anti-semitism for writing what I do? The logic is satisfyingly circular.

But Cif posters may be less aware of how the rest of the Israel lobby works. Giyus is, in fact, the most amateurish part of its operation. These are the "shock troops" on the front line. They overwhelm by force of numbers only. Far more effective are the lobby's "snipers". They pick off anyone the shock troops have failed to frighten off and whose voice might be heard in places where it matters: particularly in the American media and on US campuses. Tony Judt has recently felt their ire, as have Professors Walt and Mearsheimer.

A separate lobby system, particularly Aipac, is dedicated to intimidating elected American representatives. This obsession with preserving Israel's image in the US is not surprising: the country's fate as an occupying, military power in the Middle East will, after all, be decided in Washington. In the main, the professional Israel lobby cares little about what is said in the European media, although as British newspaper websites like the Guardian start to penetrate the other side of the Atlantic that is changing. There may yet come a day when we will miss the abusive giyus crowd.

The professional Israel lobby have respectable names like Camera (the Committee for Accuracy in Middle Reporting in America), Honest Reporting and the Anti-Defamation League.

Camera has a section dedicated to "naming and shaming" some of the most influential journalists writing about the Middle East. You'll find a page dedicated to the Guardian's former Jerusalem correspondent, Chris McGreal, after he made the ultimate faux pas of comparing Israel to apartheid South Africa, a country he knows intimately. There are many who share the honour: the Independent's Donald MacIntyre, Tim McGirk of Time magazine, Molly Moore of the Washington Post, Jim Muir and Kylie Morris of the BBC, Greg Myre and Neil MacFarquhar of the New York Times. And that's just a fraction of those whose surname begins with M.
 



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Sun Worshipper: Quote

So what?
(1) 2007-08-21 08:53:21
ROB: Quote

after watching john pilgers the war on democracy last night,it is all clear for people with any sense of decency that america is the biggest sponsor of terrorism on the face of the earth.

C.I.A agents without any shame or fear stated,we do not care for demcoracy as long as what we want is done,be it by a dictator or democrat.

when confronted with the murder of thousands in chile,the C.I.A man said so what if thousands died,we shall do whatever is good for our interests and people better believe it or else.

do you expect israel to be any diffrent when it is backed and financed by america.
(2) 2007-08-21 10:36:24
Raja77: Quote

I also watched the documentary last night, and it was a real eye opener. The lengths USA would go to, to put a friendly government in power was mind blowing.

The USA to protect her interests has installed dictators across the world who kill and torture their own people, but as long as they are dancing to the tune of the USA they are ok.

The Latin American countries had been hit the most by the USA and their tinpot dictators, but the good thing about all this sorry affair was that the Latin American countries have woken up!

With the election of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and other Latin American countries such as Bolivia they have managed to free their countries from the shackles of the USA. They even showed the CIA trying to overthrow Chavez but to no avail.

I already knew that Chavez was a good leader but after watching that documentary I have seen how much he is loved by his people because he puts them first, before the interests of the USA. Even when Chavez was kidnapped by the army of his own country the people came out in force to defend their President and they all shouted in voice "Bring him Back"
You can't buy loyalty like that, you can only earn it.

I pray if only Muslim countries can elect a leader like him, with the strength and courage of Hugo Chavez who will be able to pull the Ummah out of this quagmire of slavery and raise the Ummah to the level of dignity.

Ameen
(3) 2007-08-21 11:32:37
Kathy: Quote

The real problem is that the Zionists use the anti-Semitism card if anyone criticises Israel and its racist policies. They use is as a threat to people who want to tell the truth about what is really happening in the world today in the name of Zionism. To hate a Zionist is not to be anti-Semitic. Indeed there are many Jews who hate Zionism but unfortunately there are a bunch of Zionists who sit at their computers looking for the smallest criticism of Israel by anyone. They then jump and call that person anti-Semitic. Yes it will happen to me, indeed it already has but I will continue to criticise both Zionists and Israel.

I have just finished reading a wonderful book titled 'The Other Side of Israel'. It was written by a Jewish lady called Susan Nathan who emigrated to Israel and then ended up living in the Arab village of Tamara. She tells the true story of how the Israeli Arabs are really treated in their own country. I wonder what the Zionists call her? I recommend people who want to know the truth, to read it. Perhaps a few of those Zionists who read this post should read it too.

We need more brave journalists to speak out against both Israel and America. I agree with Rob when he says that America is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in this world today, with Israel running a close second. Sadly our media is Zionist controlled so we rarely hear the real truth.
(4) 2007-08-21 12:29:13
Sun Worshipper: Quote

For Rob and Kathy, and their like, the only truth they are willing to accept is that which fits their preconceived ideas.Israel has its supporters - 99% of Jews, I imagine Kathy are Zionists, so you hate 99% of Jews - apart from those Netutrei nuttters who are wheeled out whenever toerags like Galloway and Tamimi want to be pictured next to them. As such, like all other interests it lobbies for support, tries to stop lies being spread about it and generally busies itself with the 2000 year-old business of ensuring survival.

But it's nice to see Kathy back - and a ramping up of the vitriolic language.
(5) 2007-08-21 12:58:11
Kathy: Quote

Sun Worshipper

I take it that you are also a Zionist.

I do not believe that 99% of Jews are Zionists but of course I can see that you do not like those Jews who oppose both Zionism and even the existence of the State of Israel as you seem to refer to them as 'nutters'. Perhaps you ought to look at yourself before calling others nutters.

Yes I hate Zionists, just as I hate the BNP and all other Nazis, along with the Neo Cons in America. These are the people who are responsible for the trouble in the world today because of their greed and sick ideas on how this world should be run. It is not Religion which is the cause of the troubles rather the control freaks who hide behind Religion.

Thanks for the welcome back. I wondered how long it would take for someone to respond to my post. 30 minutes, that's good going. You must be a dedicated Zionist or perhaps someone with nothing better to do with your time, being a Sun reader.
(6) 2007-08-21 13:38:47
ROB: Quote

as the saying goes it takes one to know one,if you consider jews who speak for justice to be nutters then it seems you may know more than we do.

at least kathy and rob use their names instead of hiding behind childish names,to cloak the reality of who you are.

99 per cent of jews are zionist is a insult to jews who have fought against racism-bigotry and injustice against the palestinians.

it is a old tactic of zionists to never give their real names but use bogus names to hide their reality.
(7) 2007-08-21 13:56:22
Sun Worshipper: Quote

Kathy - thanks for the concern about how I spend my day.

You are a racist. You repeat racist libels about the Jews, whom you euphemistically call 'Zionists' - the same lies the Nazis, The Russians and Catholic Church spread for hundreds of years. If you hate the Nazis so much why do you repeat their lies and use their language (cancer, scum, filth, etc)?
What is it that you do not like about the Jews - that they 'invented' Socialism, Capitalism, Monotheism?

Get it off your chest - you'll feel so much better. What is it that makes you hate Jews so much?

And do you even know what Zionism is? Have you ever looked it up in a dictionary of political ideas? Or perhaps you know and don't think the Jews are entitled to a home.

PS Criticism of Israel may well be justified - they are pushed into a character-disfiguring fight to survive against others like you.
(8) 2007-08-21 13:57:10
Kathy: Quote

Sun Worshipper (Zionist)

I resent being called a racist especially by a Zionist racist. I do not hate Jews , I hate those who follow the Zionist beliefs. Jews lived quite happily in Palestine, just as they have existed in other Muslim countries for centuries, before they stole it from the Palestinian people, with the help of the British, I may add.(Before you comment, yes, I am white and British) I have actually read that many of the Iranian Jews now say that they wished they had not gone to Israel as even they are treated as second class citizens because they they are not 'white'. Zionists are the most racist people I know. They could probably give lessons to the morons of the BNP.

Of course the Sun only gives a biased one side of the story of Israel and how it is terrorised by the Palestinians, so you will not really understand the truth. Perhaps you ought to extend your reading capability. Try reading the book I spoke about in my previous post, you may actually learn something. If you really want to be educated, that is.
(9) 2007-08-21 14:20:23
Sun Worshipper: Quote

Oh well, if you don't believe in a two-state solution there's not much point talking is there? Just like with Hamas and other genocidal groups.
Please don't bother answering. now that you're back with your racist filth i shan't be visiting again. No loss to MPAC or me. you were right, there are better things to do.

And I'm sure this thread will be pulled anyway.
(10) 2007-08-21 14:29:59
Jarrar Mughal: Quote

Saw the Docu last night was fantastic, you must remeber the CIA agents they were interviewing were active from the 60' and 70's when america was engaged with the former soviet union, then there was a second power...and they acted with impunity in their sphere of influence . NOW there is no second power i cant even BEGIN to imagine how much more conceited cocky and arrogant the CIA agents must be now...now American aims to dominate all od the world and wants to cage Russia (missile shield)and China (selling wepons to Taiwan and having a war ship their.

But then i think most people who are of that era must have known what america was upto just as we know now what they are upto in Iraq and Afganistan and how we ALL know about extroadinary rendition...no one with eyes is under any illusions but the real question is what makes people not feel more disgusted at the actions of their governments?? is it because they feel afraid of the 'other' or is it that life is just too damn comfortable for too many people, so they dont even go and vote (hold mps sccountable) let alone care for the human rights/dignitys of others.

btw

Did i mention zionism = rasicm
(11) 2007-08-21 15:03:54
Kathy: Quote

Sun Worshipper

I doubt that your Zionist, racist comments will be missed by many on this site. Sadly you are brain washed by the Sun or is it Zionism and cannot open your mind to reality. You call others racist and yet you cannot see your own racism. Try reading the Independent, if you can. If not just stick to page 3 in the Sun, it's probably more your mentality.
(12) 2007-08-21 16:57:20
RSD: Quote

The one striking characteristic in this dialogue is the degree to which the opposing parties continue to believe untruths. Israel has been racist state and in practice to some extent remains so. It is difficult for Palestinian Arabs to assert their rights. The same does not apply uniformly to other groups. However despite this racism there is general consensus amongst Israeli Arabs that the quality of their lives are materially better in every respect than if they lived in any of the neighbouring states. Thousands of Muslim and Christian Jerusalemites have moved into Israel proper and established lives for themselves as part of the mainstream society, something that is rarely if ever reported.
Despite the many myths relations between the various communities before the advent of modern Zionism was far from rosy. It was oppressive, corrupt, and often violent. Failure to pay jizya tax and allegations of ritual murder did result in ethnic cleansing in the 18th & 19th centuries. Muslims and non-Muslims were not even nominally equal in law or practice prior to 1856. There is plenty of third party evidence to the oppression that non-Muslims groups faced and to deny it inhibits the development of stable societies.
In much the same way as the British have had to face up to their colonial / imperial past in order to build a more equitable society, so too must both the Israelis and Palestinians. Neither is blameless and both owe the other a multitude of apologies. Until this is done there will be no real progress.
(13) 2007-08-21 20:34:29
Omar Sheikh: Quote

Zionists are fools. As mentioned above they simply use weak tactics of simply stating Anti Semitic behavior if Israel's actions are questioned in any way at all!!

Then they simply say Muslim countries should be more open to criticism over minor matters!!

As a young Muslim British Asian, i am glad that there are organisations like MPAC UK that can make a stance and successfully represent the Muslim community!! RESPECT
(14) 2007-08-21 23:23:18
fingal: Quote

Zionists have no need to smear anyone. The editors of this website and many of the contributors do a terrific job all by themselves.

Meanwhile I see, Kathy, that your pent up, bile-ridden spleen has re-emerged to grace these pages. Your outbursts of hatred (by your own admission - what does that say about you?) are a succinct microcosm of all that this website has to offer. If anyone thought that this site could work to reconcile people of opposing views they will quickly learn from you, Rob (ha!) and others that it is apparently a waste of time.

As this website is intended for Muslim people in Britain, I have a message for all of you, and especially the site editors: stop getting your knickers in a twist about Israel and the Middle East, where you do not live, and concentrate instead on your lives and opportunities in Britain. You will find it far more rewarding (unless you are Kathy, who I must leave in the capable hands of her nurse).
(15) 2007-08-22 02:25:21
ken: Quote

Leave it out fengal, this is the only Muslim website that allows zionists to post.

I was fuming at the attack on mpac and now I see this as something that the zinazies do to stop free speach, its smear all the way.
(16) 2007-08-22 08:42:25
ROB: Quote

I must say it is quite nice of chameleon like zionists to tell us that they come on this site to reconcile issues.

maybe they should understand what the word reconcile means first,it seems zionists are having a hard time with their usual propaganda failing.
(17) 2007-08-22 10:18:38
Kathy: Quote

Fingal
(an obvious Zionist)

Yes I do hate all people who seek to destroy others by their racist politics. If you cared to read all that I said, I also mentioned my hatred of the BNP and other Nazi groups. Racism is the biggest evil in this world today and Israel is proof that Zionism is a racist ideology. There are many who compare it with the apartheid system in South Africa, this includes the more forward thinking Israelis.

Open your mind and your eyes before you throw insults at others just because they criticise your Zionist ideologies. Or better still join the websites which promote your racist, narrow minded thoughts. You will be happier there.
(18) 2007-08-22 10:38:18
Abu Haadiya: Quote

It shows that supporter of Israel do not do so out of naivity, but rather because they are EVIL SCUM.
(19) 2007-08-22 16:49:06
Salam Majid: Quote

Never new an organisation like MPAC UK even exsisted but I'm so glad someone looks out for the Muslim community!!
(20) 2007-08-22 21:52:20
To Gibson: Quote

Mel? Is that you?
(21) 2007-08-23 08:38:18
marc: Quote

the hatred in this thread is shocking,,you all need to look deep within yourselves,,all this blame america crap is really boring,,funny that without the american military we wouldnt be able to spew our paranoid delusions about the world,,,instead of sitting tapping keys do something about it..ps the way some talk its only the west that has rapists and evil people,,pps the usa never killed 800,000 iraqis...to be honest though i wish israel/palestine/iraq/iran got nuked..jews/muslims/christians= hate
(22) 2007-08-23 13:54:06
ROB: Quote

nobody hates america as a country but we stand against the actions of american governments who overthrow democratically elected governments and put in place tyrants and despots who kill and maim millions all over the world.

you should watch john pilgers documentary about americas war on democracy and listen to C.I.A operatives who state we do not care if a country is a democracy or not as long as our interests are served.

if thousands die so what,that is what decent people dislike and despise.

one year ago a independent scientific survey stated 655,000 had died who would be alive today if iraq had not been attacked,i am sure that figure today is 800,000 if not more.
(23) 2007-08-23 14:08:10
Moses was a ...: Quote

Jarrar Mughal:

Moses, may his name be blessed forever, was the first zionist (with a small 'z').
(24) 2007-08-23 16:23:47
shan: Quote

Moses was a muslim with a big M he never called himslef a jew and would be appalled to learn he is being referred to as a zionist even with a small z.
(25) 2007-08-23 16:33:22
Syed: Quote

To the previous two posters, there is a difference between spiritual Zionism and political Zionism.
(26) 2007-08-23 17:33:08
shan: Quote

jay i do not see muslims armies occupying and killing hundreds of thousands of human beings in chrsitian countries.

but i do see christian armies in muslim countries occupying and killing-torturing-raping-sodomising and humiliating millions of muslims in their own lands,so who is forcing their views on whom.

you need to get a reality check.
(27) 2007-08-24 10:34:53
Kathy: Quote

Well said Shan. These who spout on about Biblical Christianity pushing back, spreading or winning are a load of nutters. I've asked several times for an explanation of 'Biblical Christianity' but never had an answer. Perhaps it's George Bush's version of Christainity, which, we all know, is very distorted.
(28) 2007-08-24 17:08:45
Harvey: Quote

To Kathy Rob Ishmael et al

Once and for all it is not antisemitic to criticise the policies of Israel.

However when organisations,trade unions various charities and individuals focus all their attention and vitriol towards Israel whilst ignoring genocide in Darfur Chechyna and large parts of Africa then serious questions need to be asked concerning the underlying motives of these groups.

When those highly motivated individuals from the stop the war coalition and Free Palestine org march through London why do they not express their abhorrence of regiemes such as Mugabe Zimbabwe Tibet Burma,most of Africa.

Why do they not call for an end to the war between Sunni and Shia which in one year is responsible for more Muslim deaths and injuries then by the coalition forces since the overthrow of Saddam.

Where were their voices when 100,00 died in Algeria in the 90s

The list is endless.

The simple fact is that we are witnessing an unholy alliance between the left and various Islamic groups
both of whom loathe eachother but are held together by their hatred of Israel and the U.S.

In summary I can never dismiss the link between antisemitism and antizionism until Israels detractors voices are raised in equal measure against the myriad of conflicts and injustices elsewhere in the world.
(29) 2007-08-26 13:16:44
ROB: Quote

Harvey when the hypocrites who have bombed and slaughtered nearly a million in iraq and afghanistan bomb israelis into compliance-bomb india into compliance-bomb russia into compliance-bomb philipines into compliance-bomb thailand into compliance to give those people demanding freedom, their right of self determination then you can lecture us what and whom we should also talk about.

tibet-darfur and zimbabawe are matters of power politics,america would not give two hoots about darfur if it was not for oil and that china is moving for and if china was not a emerging power it would not give two hoots about tibet.

do give us some credit for knowing what goes on in the world,america wants to stay top dog by hook or crook.

as aptly shown by john pilgers documentary war on democracy.

as for algeria i remember the americans and the french giving the terrorist army of algeria the go ahead to stop the .F.I.S from taking power after they had won the elections,america and france are directly resposible for the 100,000 deaths for supporting the terrorist army to take over.
(30) 2007-08-28 15:06:40
Harvey: Quote

Rob

You are evading my question.

Forget for one moment your need to play the blame game card .No one is denying the Americans are selective about which side /war they enter although you seem to forget they ended Serbian oppression of Muslims when the other 57 Muslims states wrung their hands and did nothing.

I repeat my simple question to you


Why do you believe it is acceptable that supposedly apolitical charities ,trade unions ,media bodies such as the BBC etc see fit to demonise Israel whilst remaining almost totally silent and indifferent to the suffering of people in the war zones previously mentioned.

I am sure you arequite aware that a genocide is taking place in Darfur .It is being committed by Arab tribesmen ,the Janaweed ,against black African natives who are themselves Muslim but are considered impure .

I ask of you where are the banners ,the marchers ,the 'not in my name protestations'

As I previously said ,until you are able to demonstrate a full and ongoing protest against the many vile regiemes and terrorist organisations that carry out murder and mayhem on a daily basis throughout the world then I can only view your visceral hatred of Israel as something far more sinister then Antizionism
(31) 2007-08-30 10:58:08
ROB: Quote

If what is happening in sudan is genocide according to you then holocausts are taking place in iraq-chechnya-kashmir and afghanistan as the people killed by bombs and bullets is 50 times more than in sudan.

the number of dead in sudan due to bombs and bullets is between 5000 to 10,000 people and it is between farmers and nomads over scarce resources and is being manipulated for power politics because of china.

for your information muslim relief agencies have been working in darfur from day one,the reason you do not see people demonstrating on streets is because they know this is all about gas and oil.

the americans did not help end serbian oppresion of muslims,they gave them 3 years to do the job in bosnia and nearly 10 years to do the job in kosova,america did what it did to show russia who was the new boss in the area as serbia was the only country still not in the nato camp,its called power politics.

it is a crime to kill anyone unjustly whether he is a muslim or non muslim,in regard to black muslims and arab muslims,maybe you should check out the status of black jews in occupied palestine and how they live or maybe you should check out the status of black christian all over the world in white christian countries.

lets not act holier than thou art,there are criminals in all socities,but what i hate is people patrionising others and thinkng no else knows about their actions.
(32) 2007-08-30 13:51:09
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