This is a continuation of a previous post
In the last week we've seen yet again the blurring of the lines
between
Islam and terrorism, not it has to be said by Muslims themselves. But
those that want to play this game can just as easily be tarred by
association as many Muslims are. At the
Cambridge University conference
a few weeks ago where Tony Blair spoke (and set the programme depending
on who you believe), Shaikh Ali Goma from Egypt was a chief guest as a
example of moderation from the Muslim world.
Shortly before the Grand Mufti travelled he'd issued advice that there may be
blessings in the Prophet's (peace be upon him) urine. I'm not a
scholar, but I can imagine if some had wanted to demonise him, there
would be plenty of opportunity. And others found evidence
not disimilar to what Shaikh Qaradawi is pilloried for. I also see
that Shaikh Goma allows Muslims to sell alcohol and pork in the West.
An example of enlightened moderation and integration some
would say. But it is only because he sees the West as dar-ul-harb
(house of war).
Remember
the hype surrounding this conference. Plus the now customary leaks of
an MCB snub. Tony Blair opened the conference, he asked David Cameron
to close it, thereby ensuring Blair opened and closed it. Cameron hit
out at "Muslim consciousness".
While others ponder whether to use the word "extremist" or "radical",
the Tory leader simply believes thinking like a Muslim is a problem. At
least he's being somewhat upfront about it unlike others.
Leaving aside the rights and wrongs for a moment, getting Muslims to
stop thinking like Muslims isn't practical. Even if it was, it does not
solve the global problem that we are facing. In the debate about the
impact of foreign policy something of a national consensus has been
arrived at in the last couple of weeks. Even hardened New Labourites
will accept that Iraq has "exacerbated" the threat we face, but that
some Al-Qaeda inspired terrorists would be doing their thing anyway.
The numbers of potential terrorists has increased as a result of the
war, but there would have been some whatever happened.
In other words if it weren't for Iraq we'd still be in the situation
of the 1990s when you had the likes of Hassan Butt crying for jihad but
not doing anything about it. And now the self-same foreign policy hawks
look to the Muslim community to sort it out. Just like Hassan Butt, Ed
Hussain and their ilk were out of control a few years ago, even if we
knew now who they had trained up to replace them, no amount of nice
fireside chats from moderate imams is going to dissuade them.
In fact Butt can't do anything about it, knowing the mindset,
knowing the people, then how is anyone else in the Muslim community
going to do it? Ed has flipped from wanting to establish a global
caliphate top down to wanting to see the Muslim world bombed by the
West. He claims he follows traditional Islam espoused by the likes of
Hamza Yusuf and Nuh Keller. However, there is no appreciable difference
between them and the "Islamists" he condemns. They certainly have
"Muslim conciousness".
The MCB has been replaced at government meetings by those called
sufis, or the followers of "traditional Islam". I don't know what
that's achieved other than a new set of faces, a shift in personnel.
They say and do the same things (the Sufi Muslim Council is a separate
issue to this). I've probed into what different the different agendas
could be. The only semi-response I've had is that sufis concentrate
less on the ummah. I don't believe that, and maybe readers could
educate me.
Maybe those in the favoured circle are choosing to keep quiet
because they are favoured - currently. But let's not have anyone
pretending that anything has changed. The perpetual attempt from media
and political circles to shape the Muslim community is ultimately
purposeless and diversionary. Putting people into the terrorist camp
because they have (non-violent) religious and political views you don't
share is not on.
Source: osamasaeed.org
Readers have left 3 comments.
Of course you know that there is nothing,no excuses that Muslims can come with that will prevent Brits and others from embracing Biblical Christianity and spreading it when faced with threats from Islam don't you?
Abu Sumayah, Ahmed:
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This is just an example of hundreds of quotes before and after 9/11 and 7/7 from Orthodox Scholars. In fact some from Schollars in Yemen in the 1980's speaking against Usama bin laden while he was in that country at the time, and specifically refuting his ideology in detail. anyway...this one is excellent too.
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SHAIKH IBN AL-UTHAIMEEN ADVISES MUSLIMS HOW TO LIVE AMONGST NON-MUSLIMS IN THE WEST…
This advice was possibly the last this noble Scholar gave to Muslims in the West before he passed away - in a tele-link with Salafi Publications in July 2000. Note that this advice came before the September 11th 2001 attacks in New York, before the Madrid train bombs and before the July 7th 2005 tube bombings in London. So the advice is not driven by a desire to rectify in hindsight, but a sincere and truthful desire to guide and advise the Muslims in the West on how to co-exist in the correct legislated manner.
The esteemed and late Shaikh Muhammad bin Salih al-’Uthaimin of Saudi Arabia stated, during a tele-link in the evening of Friday, 28th July 2000:
"""“…Likewise I invite you to have respect for those people who have the right that they should be respected, those between whom there is an agreement (of protection) for you. For the land in which you are living is such that there is an agreement between you and them. If this were not the case they would have killed you or expelled you. So preserve this agreement, and do not prove treacherous to it, since treachery is a sign of the hypocrites, and it is not from the way of the Believers.
And know that it is authentically reported from the Prophet that he said, “Whoever kills one who is under and agreement of protection will not smell the fragrance of Paradise.”
Do not be fooled by those sayings of the foolish people, those who say ‘Those people are Non-Muslims, so their wealth is lawful for us (to misappropriate or take by way of murder and killing).’ For by Allaah - this is a lie. A lie about Allaah’s Religion, and a lie about Islamic societies.
So we may not say that it is lawful to be treacherous towards people whom we have an agreement with.
O my brothers. O youth. O Muslims. Be truthful in your buying and selling, and renting, and leasing, and in all mutual transactions. Because truthfulness is from the characteristics of the Believers, and Allaah - the Most High - has commanded truthfulness - in the saying of Allaah - the Most High -
“O you who believe - fear and keep you duty to Allaah and be with the truthful”
And the Prophet encouraged truthfulness and said, “Adhere to truthfulness, because truthfulness leads to goodness, and goodness leads to Paradise; and a person will continue to be truthful, and strive to be truthful until he will be written down with Allaah as a truthful person“.
And he warned against falsehood, and said, “Beware of falsehood, because falsehood leads to wickedness, and wickedness leads to the Fire. And a person will continue lying, and striving to lie until he is written down with Allaah as a great liar.”
O my brother Muslims.
O youth. Be true in your sayings with your brothers, and with those Non-Muslims whom you live along with - so that you will be inviters to the Religion of Islaam, by your actions and in reality. So how many people there are who first entered into Islaam because of the behaviour and manners of the Muslims, and their truthfulness, and their being true in their dealings""""
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Why dnt we hear this is the western media though?? Maybe fools like Omar Barki or Abu Hamza (the hook) sell more papers so thats why they have transmitted them and promoted their views on our UK Screens for 10 years. Many of the Muslim youth wouldnt have heard of these views if it wasnt for UK media. Maybe thats where Mohammed Siddique Khan from Leeds was first Influenced by this disasterous ideology.
Nigel - When Prophet Isa (Jesus) peace be upon him, returns back onto this earth; he will NOT be on the side of 'Biblical Christanity', but rather he will lead the Muslims against the followers of such beliefs!
